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Mindred   10-22-2004 at 02:35:29 AM

Hi guys,
While ordering a Athlon64 3400+ i've noticed there's two model...

One is clocked at 2.4ghz and has 512 L2 cache
and the other one is 2.2 Ghz and 1024 L2 cache...

What would you guys recommend between those two ?

Ps. both are socket 754

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gothitbycar   10-22-2004 at 03:32:29 AM
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The 2.4ghz one will be faster in most cases. If your going to overclock you may as well get the 2.2ghz with the 1024kb l2 cache because both will overclock to similiar speeds.

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Ned_Flanders   10-22-2004 at 11:32:12 AM
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argh not again! - Look to the left, do you see that "Search Boards" button :lol:

I'm not trying to be harsh, it's just that this question has been asked / debated / posted at least 10 times.

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ohnoesaz   10-22-2004 at 11:32:27 PM
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Actually, if people searched before posting then there'd be waaaaay less posts on these boards and nothing to talk about anymore.

Repeat questions is what drives all forums.

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BeyRevRa   10-23-2004 at 06:01:40 AM
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I have the 2.2 1MB Cache but I have it overclocked to 2.6. The Cache size doesn't matter as much on 64s, so generally it's better to get the higher speed; I didn't do much research before buying either (don't get the same ram as me).

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Mindred   10-23-2004 at 05:48:41 PM
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Thanks for the replies...
I got the 2.2 1M now and it's running smooth a 2.4 on air... i'm probably gonna try to OC higher when i get my water cooling kit back

and Sorry about the repost, i had just joined the forums so i didn't notice the search function :)

Thanks again.

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BeyRevRa   10-23-2004 at 06:13:03 PM
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I have mine at 2.6 on air without any problems. I've never messed with water cooling, thought about it, but every time I do I say to myself "why am I putting water inside my computer." Just doesn't seem smart to me, GL though, talk to scottchen.

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scottchen   10-23-2004 at 06:16:41 PM
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If you can get to 2.6Ghz on air, don't bother getting water, that's pretty much as high as the chip will ever go.

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BeyRevRa   10-23-2004 at 08:07:48 PM
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What about a 3500+ 90nm? How high do you think it could be pushed? They are suppose to be way better overclockers according to Anandtech.

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Kanavit   10-24-2004 at 05:06:15 PM
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i got a 2.4ghz newcastle 512kb and believe me, cache doesnt really matter on AMD systems because of Hypertransport(on-die memory controller). I got some pretty amazing scores with my newcastles.

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scottchen   10-25-2004 at 12:18:10 AM
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The Claws with 1mb cache gains significantly more performance when overclocked. Don't ask me why, it just does.

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Kanavit   10-25-2004 at 02:44:39 AM
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clock for clock the Clawhammer 1mb is faster than Newcastle 512kb, however the Newcastle is faster than the clawhammer at stock. 200mhz increase clockspeed is better than 1mb cache.



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scottchen   10-25-2004 at 05:01:30 AM
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And the Claws does clock for clock with newcastles, if not better. You'd think that the smaller die size on the newcastles would generate less heat and have chance to go higher, but read somewhere that newcastles are just defective clawhammers.

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