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gettin a 3.2 Prescott soon, tips on avoiding heat?

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November 29, 2004 1:25:07 AM

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November 29, 2004 2:28:17 AM

Yeh, if you want to avoid excessive heat, get a Northwood core 3.2. They're faster in most applications anyway.

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November 29, 2004 2:30:55 AM

listen to crashman.

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November 29, 2004 10:52:17 AM

ya, crashman seems to be right yet again, but in the off chance you're not going to listen to him, make sure you get a power supply that can handle the load of the system without getting too hot itself. that things in the case too and it gets plenty hot sittin 2 inches away from the CPU. get a case fan or 2 and i'm gonna pick up a PCI slot "system cooler"... just another fan that fits in a PCI slot and sucks air out.
there isn't to much you can do to keep the CPU itself cool, but if you keep the rest of the system cooler it will be better
November 29, 2004 11:56:52 AM

Embrace the heat of thy Prescott! Do not be afraid, for it has larger thermal envelope, and heat is good for thy soul.
It must be better and faster, for it is hotter! Fry away, baby!

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November 29, 2004 1:00:11 PM

Dont turn the computer on.
November 29, 2004 1:23:37 PM

yea i problem is that i got the prescott already because it was on sale at a local retailer. ok right now i have a 350 watt power supply and plannin on getting a new case soon with a 420watt antec silent psu. can my psu currently run...
P4 3.2E
ECS mobo (planning on upgrading to ASUS)
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120 gig WD
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pci cooling fan
2-3 standard fans.. (dont know how big but smaller than 80mm)


aslo im getting the artic silver 5 thermal compound for my cpu and my cpu is a socket 478 if that matters
November 29, 2004 1:26:07 PM

Yes, if it is a good 350watt one, but the 420watt Antec will be better

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November 29, 2004 1:42:02 PM

if u remove the stock thermal pad and use that other crap it will run hotter. read the god damn review on this website.
November 29, 2004 4:18:36 PM

The stock thermal interface material from Intel is pretty good. Only mess with Arctic Silver (and the likes) if you're taking your heatsink on and off a lot or you're using a better heatsink than stock (which would be recommended).

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November 29, 2004 4:44:18 PM

To avoid heat, don't get Prescott! Get Northwood, Dothan or Athlon 64! You can't avoid heat issue with Prescott, they produce nearly 100 Watts at full load by design!

Put a 100 Watts lighting bulb in a PC case for a couple of hour! The air in the case will get very hot, unless you install big fans!

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November 29, 2004 4:58:21 PM

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Put a 100 Watts lighting bulb in a PC case for a couple of hour! The air in the case will get very hot, unless you install big fans!

Yeah, but a couple of 120mm case fans and a good CPU heatsink should do the trick. :) 

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November 29, 2004 6:39:39 PM

USE THE THERMAL PASTE THAT COMES ON THE CPU!
November 29, 2004 7:14:17 PM

I would recommend getting a coolermaster hyper6 heat sink and fan. They are apparently really good, although a little on the pricy side. Bear in mind that if you dont use intels hsf and thermal pad then you void your warrenty.
November 29, 2004 7:43:15 PM

I really don't care what you call me, and why would it matter anyway? I am a NEWB! What did I say that was so stupid? If I made that big of a mistake, then I need to know so that I can correct it. Ive heard many people say that the Thermal material that comes with the intel CPU's is pretty good. Based on that, wouldnt it be better for someone new to use the Intel paste? For someone new, scrapping paste off is just one more way to screw something up.
November 29, 2004 7:57:39 PM

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Bear in mind that if you dont use intels hsf and thermal pad then you void your warrenty.

The last time that I checked (which was with a Northwood C) you're wrong. Intel's boxed processor warranty allows you to use other heatsinks and thermal interface materials and remain in warranty. (Overclocking is a completely different matter of course.)

The last time that I checked however, AMD on the other hand doesn't allow this. In fact AMD was even working on restricting your choices of TIM last I checked.

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November 29, 2004 8:18:20 PM

Oh, yeah, just wait till he catches you outside of the forum!

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November 29, 2004 9:17:06 PM

ummm im not talking about scraping off any thermal paste for a new one...the cpu and mobo wont arrive for a few days and ive read around and heard that prescotts over heat alot. im just asking for some advice to avoid the heat a bit.

so is artic silver better than the stock paste that comes with? and should i use the stock heatsink?
November 29, 2004 9:42:02 PM

im noob when it comes to cpus and mobos....
November 29, 2004 9:45:41 PM

I knew it was the case for AMD CPU's, I just made the assumption that the same was true for the P4's. My bad.
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November 30, 2004 1:16:04 AM

Tom's showed in their testing that the stock thermal interface material is SUPERIOR to most paste, even ASIII can't equal it until after the ASIII breakin period. So you're on the right track leaving the original stuff on there.

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November 30, 2004 1:41:25 AM

How about going with a BTX case like Intel recommends? If not, make sure you run 2 intake and 2 exhaust fans.
Front = intake blowing across hard drive(s)
Side = intake blowing down on motherboard
Rear = exhaust, hopefully at GPU vicinity
Top = exhaust(power supply fan or otherwise)
80mm will do. If you go with 120mm then (3) will do
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November 30, 2004 12:03:35 PM

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I knew it was the case for AMD CPU's, I just made the assumption that the same was true for the P4's. My bad.

No worries. Technology aside, it's one of the few things that still bugs me about AMD. Say that I want a very quiet PC. (Which I personally do and am working on.) With Intel I can build my own system, use an ultra-quiet high-end air HSF, and still have a retail warranty. Even though AMD has cooler CPUs that this would work even better for, they have a CPU warranty restriction that prevents me from going that route. :\ Goofy, no? AMD still needs to work on a few things.

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November 30, 2004 12:09:46 PM

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Tom's showed in their testing that the stock thermal interface material is SUPERIOR to most paste, even ASIII can't equal it until after the ASIII breakin period. So you're on the right track leaving the original stuff on there.

THG's and various people's personal experiences all point to Intel's stock TIM being pretty top-notch stuff. I'm currently using it. I'll probably switch to AS when I upgrade my heatsink. It's downright simple to use too. :)  I wonder if one could just buy a sheet of Intel's stock TIM...

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November 30, 2004 12:15:21 PM

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Caution! My last XOXIDE case (Batman) has two 120mm fans and the damn thing is TOO LOUD. The latest X-Infinity has 4 - 80mm fans and is fairly quiet. Weird!

It depends entirely on the fans that you use. High RPM fans make noise. Low RPM fans don't. The advantage of 120mm fans is that at low RPMs (and thus low noise) they move a lot more air than 80mm fans at the same noise level.

I've got an Antec Sonata case with two low-RPM 120mm fans and a quiet PSU and when those fans are running by themselves you wouldn't even know it was on with your ear just a foot from the case. (The CPU and video fans however make the PC much more audible, which will likely be the center of my next ugprade.)

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November 30, 2004 6:44:28 PM

Yeah, on my prescott I am using the stock retail heatsink and fan, runs at about 40-45 degrees Centigrade with no problems at all, but I have been thinking of upgrading them recently.
November 30, 2004 9:47:48 PM

why would u upgrade them? you people waste so much god damn money on fans and power supplies its unbelievable. why do u care if the cpu burns up? that's why it has a warranty(and it can't burn up but that's not the point). use the stock [-peep-], go play doom3, and quit asking the same damn question over and over. if they warranty it with the [-peep-] they send you it must work. if u want to be super cool use a chassis they reccomend. also you don't need a 500 watt power supply. you amd guys crack me up the most with your super cheep cpu and motherboard. 500 watt expensive as hell power supply. super expensive cooler. super expensive case. 10 case fans. by the time you're done you defeated the purpose unless making a computer that's as loud as a jet airplane was your goal.
December 1, 2004 6:56:24 PM

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why would u upgrade them? you people waste so much god damn money on fans and power supplies its unbelievable.

Personally, I'm looking at upgrading to reduce the noise produced so that I can hear my games better, leave my PC running without realizing it, etc. Silence is golden. I may even try undervolting my CPU some time ... that is, if I don't OC it first. :o 

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December 1, 2004 9:56:35 PM

Are you just using air for cooling?
December 1, 2004 11:42:39 PM

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Silence is golden. I may even try undervolting my CPU some time ... that is, if I don't OC it first. :o 


yea, i built my pc for silence. and its undervolted so i can run my fans lower

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