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December 2, 2004 2:34:20 PM

Hi, i was wondering what the other CPU was besides the Pentium line. Also which CPU would be better for building a computer soley comprised of video gaming. I think i heard that the other CPU besides the P4 was better for gaming but i wanna be absolutely positive. Also can someone names some good specs to go along with the cpu? like a good mobo, vid card (thinking 6800gt), ram and what not.

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December 2, 2004 2:51:16 PM

Would this work out?

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+, Socket 939, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM

Mobo: ASUS "SK8N" nForce3 Pro150 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 940 CPU -RETAIL

Graphics card: ASUS nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "V9999GT/TD/256M" -RETAIL

Would there be any complications in putting these 3 together? if so can somebody suggest a better alternative?
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December 2, 2004 3:09:17 PM

Humm... You obviously don't know much about PC! :smile: HE HE HE!!!

Here is what you need for a powerful gaming pc :

CPU : AMD Athlon 64 3500+ BOXED
MEMORY : 2x512Megs DDR400 RAM
MB : MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
GPU : Gigabyte, MSI or Asus 6800GT with 256Megs would be good <b>OR</b> Radeon X800 PRO 256Megs


NOTE : The setup you chose had a Socket940 MB matched with a Socket939 MB, this would have never worked!

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A7N8X / <font color=green><b>Sempron 2800+</b></font color=green> <- <i>Is this affecting my credibility?</i>
Kingston DDR333 2x256Megs
<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290 <- <i>It's enough for WoW!</i>
December 2, 2004 4:34:55 PM

hehe thanks, and nope i know too much about hardware, they all seem like the same things to me, but apparently they're not.

CPU : AMD Athlon 64 3500+ BOXED um whats this boxed deal? does it mean something different?

MEMORY : 2x512Megs DDR400 RAM

MB : MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum never heard of this but is it good?

GPU : Gigabyte, MSI or Asus 6800GT with 256Megs would be good OR Radeon X800 PRO 256Megs
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by pentak on 12/02/04 01:43 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
December 2, 2004 4:50:57 PM

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whats this boxed deal? does it mean something different?

BOXED CPU's comes with Heatsink and Fans. The one provided by AMD is more than enough and it comes with a better warranty on the CPU/Heasink/Fan than OEM version.

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MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum never heard of this but is it good?

It's a top-notch AMD Socket9393 MB. In most reviews, it's the motherboard of choice with nForce3 250Gb chipset. It has a lot of features/connectors and it performs really well.

By the way, for the GPU, if you really like Doom 3, the GeForce 6800GT will beat any ATI card in the same price range. For Half-Life 2 and FarCry Radeon X800 is better. There is no clear winner with the GPU generation. In the long run you might be better surved with the GeForce 6800GT since it support Shader Model 3.0 and the X800 only support Shader Model 2.0. But, by the time Shader Model 3.0 will be mandatory probably buth GPU will be outdated!

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A7N8X / <font color=green><b>Sempron 2800+</b></font color=green> <- <i>Is this affecting my credibility?</i>
Kingston DDR333 2x256Megs
<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290 <- <i>It's enough for WoW!</i>
December 2, 2004 4:59:13 PM

well i'm mostly going to play Counterstrike and online games rather than a single person shooter. So i'm guessing the x800 would be better since it goes better with HL2. Plus with the CPU and the Mobo am i going to need some good ram? cause the review for the mobo says that it wont work with crappy ram, they suggested the corhairs xms series.
December 2, 2004 5:22:35 PM

Since you will not overclock, you don't need to pay a premium for your RAM.

Here is the link to the memory compatibility page for the MSI K8N Neo2 :
<A HREF="http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/recomm..." target="_new">http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/recomm...;/A>

Just make sure the ram you get is int this list!

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A7N8X / <font color=green><b>Sempron 2800+</b></font color=green> <- <i>Is this affecting my credibility?</i>
Kingston DDR333 2x256Megs
<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290 <- <i>It's enough for WoW!</i>
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December 2, 2004 11:19:22 PM

Boxed and Retail mean it comes in a retail box, with a full warranty, and a cooler (heatsink with fan). These are the ONLY factory-warrantied CPU's.

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December 3, 2004 1:47:15 AM

Actually you would be wasteing money on the X800 Pro over a GT. Why? Because in HL2 Anandtech did a review, the two cards are almost exactly tied!! The difference is less than 1%, and the GT is faster in games like FarCry(1.3) and rules eventhe X800XT in D3. So the GT is faster or at minimum = X800 Pro in every game. Now if you want top 500 dollar range get the X800 XT.

P4 2.6c@3 / 1GB OCZ DDR533 / Abit IC7-Max3 /
BFG Geforce 6800 GT @ 410/1100 /
Baracuda 7200.7 120 GB SATA / Lian-Li PC-65 Case
/ SyncMaster 700nf Monitor / 3DMark03-12100
December 3, 2004 3:40:35 AM

If i were you i`d get an AMD Athlon 64 3400+ 939 socket, with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Mobo, with a 2x512 DDR400, and as for the VGA Radeon X800XT, no cash then nVIDIA 6800GT, and make sure it's GT not the Ultra.
and make sure you're getting a powerful power supply specially if you're getting the 6800GT. (Antec trupower 480-550w)
December 8, 2004 1:33:15 PM

Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail

would this work? It says the mobo only needs Supports dual channel DDR 266/333/400, using four 184-pin DDR DIMMs.
Is this ram worth it btw? If not could you suggest a compatible one that is worth the price?
December 8, 2004 1:52:58 PM

You can find Samsung, Micron, Infenion, Buffalo and Kingston 512 Megs DDR400 for 75$US is many online shop. Any of these brand will work perfectly with your MB. Just avoid getting "unknown-brand" memory module.

You can also check the MSI Support forum, you might see that users get problem with a certain type of memory. But usually gettign one of the brand I have mentionned is good if you don't do EXTREME overclocking.

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A7N8X / <font color=green><b>Sempron 2800+</b></font color=green> <- <i>Is this affecting my credibility?</i>
Kingston DDR333 2x256Megs
<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290 <- <i>It's enough for WoW!</i>
December 8, 2004 2:39:06 PM

Ok how's this:

Mobo: MSI "K8N Neo2 Platinum" NVIDIA nForce3 ULTRA Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU

CPU: AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3500+, 2.2 GHz, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor

Graphics Card: ASUS nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "V9999GT/TD/256M" -RETAIL

Ram: Kingston ValueRAM Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail

Now this is all quite expensive, will upgrading be an issue with this? I hear that a new stuff will be coming out january but i'm not sure what, should i wait and see what comes out or just build using these specs?
December 8, 2004 5:05:28 PM

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You might be interested to read this article!

Within about one month we will start to see PCI-EXPRESS Athlon 64 motherboard on the market and since PCI-EXPRESS will replace AGP 8X these MoBo's will be better value for the long run, some will also support SLI through dual PCI-EXPRESS 8x ports.

And AMD will push a new revision of their 90nm chip that will support SSE3.

So, yes, new stuff is coming, but there is always new stuff coming in the PC market! So get what you can afford right now and upgrade as needed in the future.

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A7N8X / <font color=green><b>Sempron 2800+</b></font color=green> <- <i>Is this affecting my credibility?</i>
Kingston DDR333 2x256Megs
<font color=red>Radeon 8500 128Megs</font color=red> @ C:275/M:290 <- <i>It's enough for WoW!</i>
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