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December 22, 2004 10:07:30 PM

Sometimes I will be playing a game and the computer will suddenly just 'crap out' I guess... screen turns black, sometimes makes funny beeping noise coming from the system speaker and/or mobo (not my normal speakers) and just stops. This is always while playing a game. I think it may be an overheating problem but I am not sure. Happens mostly in Half-Life 2 and Medal of Honor Pacific Assault, sometimes others. Any thoughts?



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December 22, 2004 11:56:31 PM

Black screen? If you have EQ enabled are those alarm noises you're hearing after crossing thresholds?

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December 23, 2004 12:48:10 AM

Well the temps are a bit high and I had another post about that. Afterwards its around 57C for processor, and I have a mobo monitoring utility and it often gets up to around 65. My CPU alarm temp is set at 65. So I'm thinking its that, but not really sure. I have a 380W PSU and my specs are below. Also I wonder if my graphics card overheats cause this always seems to happen during 3D games, not video editing or what not. Thanks!


P4c 3.2Ghz @ 800MHz Northwood / ABIT AI7 / 1GB Corsair XMS-Pro CL2 Pc3200 / 160GB Seagate SATA 7200rpm 8mb cache / BFG-Tech Nvidia GeForce 6800GT 256mb / Antec Sonata case w/Antec TruePower 380W PSU
December 23, 2004 1:12:50 AM

You need better system irrigation. Get some air movement going, or do the THG trick, run it without a case.
December 23, 2004 3:33:46 AM

Irrigation makes land or objects wetter. Ventilation makes air move. To each his own. I just don't want any water in cases unless you read <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.com" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.com&lt;/A>.

My favorite is the house fan test. Point a fan at the case with the side pannel off. If its cooler you need better ventilation.

Dichromatic for your viewing plesure...<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Schmide on 12/22/04 09:36 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
December 23, 2004 8:31:28 AM

lol on the irrigation :)  Yeah thank you for the tips. Well, I got a couple 120mm fans and put those in. As it turns out the one 120mm fan that had been in there stopped working for some reason, even though the case is only 3 months old... ok. Anyway so I got these two fans in there now, on in the front and one in the back, and my temps are about 15C lower under load, which is great. Except now my computer sounds like a freaking vacuum and I can hear it from the living room. Well, it WAS the world's quietest case... I plugged both fans into the full power plug (maybe this isn't neccessary?), and the store didn't have any of the Antec fans, which I don't know if those run quieter or not but yeah...



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December 23, 2004 11:37:36 AM

Want quiet? Get a 12 or 14cm power supply (single fan) with adjustable knob. Sparkle (fortron), coolmax, and superflower are all pretty quiet and will draw warm air away from your cpu. I use no additional case fans, and my cpu temps range from 41-56 celcius. You can also use an rpm adjuster for the cpu fan. Set it at 2500-3300. They sell for about $5.
December 23, 2004 3:44:29 PM

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Anyway so I got these two fans in there now, on in the front and one in the back, and my temps are about 15C lower under load, which is great. Except now my computer sounds like a freaking vacuum and I can hear it from the living room. Well, it WAS the world's quietest case... I plugged both fans into the full power plug (maybe this isn't neccessary?), and the store didn't have any of the Antec fans, which I don't know if those run quieter or not but yeah...

I love my Sonata case. :)  But it sounds like you just picked up two 120mm fans at random. I'm sure that there are quieter fans out there. Here's my current list of 'quiet' 120mm fans.

<pre>SilenX 120mm 11dBa 40CFM <font color=red><< cheats with rubber gromets to get low dBa</font color=red>
SilenX 120mm 14dBa 58CFM <font color=red><< cheats with rubber gromets to get low dBa</font color=red>
Thermaltake A2018 120mm 17-46.5dBa 38.6-93.7CFM <font color=blue><< speed adjustable</font color=blue>
Papst 4412 F/2GLL 120mm 18dBa 41.1CFM
Akasa AK-183-L2B 120mm 18dBa 44.8CFM
SilentMaxx SF120/12 120mm 19dBa 41.2CFM
Cooler Master SUF-S12 120mm 22dBa 42.73CFM
Nexus D12SL-12 120mm 22.8dBa 36.87CFM
Enermax UC-12FAB 120mm 24.6-43.6dBa 63.05-94.92CFM <font color=blue><< speed adjustable</font color=blue>
Mechatronics G1225S12B 120mm 25dba 55CFM
Papst 4412 FGL 120mm 26dBa 55.3CFM
SilentMaxx SF120/16 120mm 26dBa 55.3CFM
Silverstone S35-1000 120mm 27dBa 54.5CFM
Powmax P456-6003 120mm 27dBa 54.5CFM
Vantec Stealth SF12025L 120mm 28dBa 53CFM
Panaflo FBA12G12L1A 120mm 30dBa 68.9CFM
Thermaltake Thunderblade 120mm 21dBa 78CFM <font color=red><< reviews say dBa is 30</font color=red>
AcoustiFan AF120C 120mm 34dBa 66.7CFM
</pre><p>I'm contemplating getting two SilenX 120mm 14dBa 58CFM fans for my Sonata. They come with silicone screw replacements much like the Sonata comes with. Those do seem to reduce fan noise.

But since you have a Sonata case, you can hook your fans into the fan only plugs and this should help reduce the fan noise. That's what they're there for. :)  If it doesn't work out you can always move them back onto noisy full power.

<pre><b><font color=red>"Build a man a fire and he's warm for the rest of the evening.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life." - Steve Taylor</font color=red></b></pre><p>
December 23, 2004 5:29:31 PM

awesome! wow thanks for the list and all the details. I will look into all that!

Danny


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