I am thinking of getting a good water cooling kit in order to cool my newly acquired pentium 4 3.4 478 so that i can get it up to 4.0, any body have any idea what amd processor would compete with a 4.0? i know there is the 4000+ but i have a feeling those numbers to really matter.
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You can have the boat, or you can have the Mystery Box!
...Hey wait a minute! A boat's a boat, but a Mystery Box could be anything. It could even be a boat
In terms of gaming performance with the same vid. card?[/grin]
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I am just curious where you get your facts. A little reading may help you. I can foresee you grow into a real hardware guru if you can learn to throw away your prejudices and be discerning of the things you read on the web and the forums.
For example, if the poster is interested in the performance equivalent of an OC'ed P4 ~4GHz vis-avis A64 as far as gaming is concerned, he may want to try this link
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/s [...] i=2330&p=8
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You do mean cash, and fan width goes to Intel right? - endyen 05
He needs Wingys arse-hole extreme treatment which is assisted by me and Eden
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It's funny exactly how obvious it is when someone doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. I wonder if that guy even read the forums before he decided to post that crap....
But on the other hand, AMD do make the better processors.
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OK it's your choice:
You can have the boat, or you can have the Mystery Box!
...Hey wait a minute! A boat's a boat, but a Mystery Box could be anything. It could even be a boat
I built a 386 as my first PC. Then I moved on to Pentium 100mhz. Then a P24 00 mhz. then Pentium 3 500hmz. Then P3 coppermine 850, till the Athlon XP came out and I ran a 1800+ then upgraded to a 2400+ on a the widly known value board the Shuttle AK31. AMD seemed to not be able to manage large hard drive arrays full of data very well and run windows XP. I switched a a Athlon 64 3200+ (Radeon 9800XT) almost a year ago. After 6 mo's of use Windows was crashing like it did on my Athlon XP's I also had Crash's in several games like Postal 2, Morrowind, and Neverwinter Nights they persisted even AFTER a system wipe.
About 2 months ago I grew sick of AMD unstability and decided to go LGA 775 with DDR2 and PCI-Express Video card the 6800GT. The best decition I ever made. The games I stated above run without crash's like they did on my Ahtlon XP systems and my athlon 64 that ran like a slug with over 300 GB of stored data.
What is a faster processor if it is less stable in games and cause's them to crash? In all the new games D3 and HL2 I have never had a single crash ever!
Everyone says the LGA775 runs hot and u need "special skills" and whatnot to deal with it. HELL NO! I have never once had a single problem with overheating with a stock solution and a case with good airflow.
I doubt any of you has much first hand experience with the LGA775 breed and are just talking out your ass. Half of those reviews do attest to the P4's stability and how much better it is to multitask etc. AMD is good at benchmarks but cannot peform in the real world applications. This is proved by intel winning the encoding and media menchmarks becuase AMD doesnt care about those its making a processor purly to perform under certain tests and conditions.
Try running 2 300GB drives on an Nforce 3 chipset full of data chug chu chug! then try intel smooth as butter.
Also, when games start multi-threading intel which we could possibly see on upcomming titels intel will own AMD once and forall.
Try running 2 300GB drives on an Nforce 3 chipset full of data chug chu chug! then try intel smooth as butter.
Try building a computer the right way, then come back and talk to us.
What did you do to troubleshoot the system other than say "Bah, it's AMD... it's the suxxxors!"? My guess is not nearly enough as people run similar configurations with no problems.
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It has long been my opinion that AMD's belong in home computers for those who game more than anything else while Intel's belong in the workplace.
But if you really want to do the AMD vs Intel argument, you may as well argue Ford vs Chevy, Bulls vs Blazers, glass half empty vs half full, etc because I think just about everyone has a different opinion based on past experience, and what they primarily use the computer for.
It's funny, because I'm typing this on my work computer... which happens to be a 1GHz Athlon (Thunderbird core). This has been my work computer for 3 years... and not a single crash. Not ONE blue screen. So I ask you... if AMD is so 'unstable'... how the hell do you explain that?
I await your explanation with baited breath.
(Oh and Crash, it also happens to have a VIA chipset )
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