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Anonymous
July 7, 2004 8:48:20 PM

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Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166 needs
to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
Thanks, Rob R.
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:04:17 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to install
any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience with
their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you can
buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better experience than
you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive processor to
install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under $30
on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded to
the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it, either
windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means it
will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means you
will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will likely
get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and that
will make it even slower and create additional problems...

"R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166 needs
> to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> Thanks, Rob R.
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:04:18 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Thanks, "System Info" says I have
Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
install
> any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience with
> their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you can
> buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better experience
than
> you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive processor
to
> install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under $30
> on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded to
> the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it, either
> windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means it
> will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means you
> will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will
likely
> get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and
that
> will make it even slower and create additional problems...
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166
needs
> > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> > Thanks, Rob R.
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:04:18 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
Rob R.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
install
> any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience with
> their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you can
> buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better experience
than
> you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive processor
to
> install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under $30
> on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded to
> the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it, either
> windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means it
> will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means you
> will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will
likely
> get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and
that
> will make it even slower and create additional problems...
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166
needs
> > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> > Thanks, Rob R.
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:04:19 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

That's 98 SR2, the last version, so probably can run
the AV software, but very slowly. How much memory?

"R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
news:10eoptg71emltf9@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks, "System Info" says I have
> Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> install
> > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience
with
> > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement.
you can
> > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
experience
> than
> > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
processor
> to
> > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably
under $30
> > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if
upgraded to
> > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
either
> > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that
means it
> > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means
you
> > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which
will
> likely
> > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order....
and
> that
> > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> >
> > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old
166
> needs
> > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this
requirement?
> > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:04:20 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=E:\WIN98 /IZ /IS
/IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
Uptime: 1:04:50:11
Normal mode
On "T9M5B3" as "Rob"

GenuineIntel Pentium(r) Processor
64MB RAM
44% system resources free
Windows-managed swap file on drive C (2829MB free)
Available space on drive C: 2829MB of 8024MB (FAT32)

"Pen" <pen34us_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v62dnRC7o-Yq9HHd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
> That's 98 SR2, the last version, so probably can run
> the AV software, but very slowly. How much memory?
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10eoptg71emltf9@corp.supernews.com...
> > Thanks, "System Info" says I have
> > Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> > install
> > > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience
> with
> > > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement.
> you can
> > > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
> experience
> > than
> > > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
> processor
> > to
> > > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably
> under $30
> > > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if
> upgraded to
> > > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
> either
> > > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that
> means it
> > > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means
> you
> > > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which
> will
> > likely
> > > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order....
> and
> > that
> > > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> > >
> > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old
> 166
> > needs
> > > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this
> requirement?
> > > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 2:53:04 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

R. Reading wrote:
> Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
> Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=E:\WIN98 /IZ /IS
> /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
> Uptime: 1:04:50:11
> Normal mode
> On "T9M5B3" as "Rob"
>
> GenuineIntel Pentium(r) Processor
> 64MB RAM
> 44% system resources free
> Windows-managed swap file on drive C (2829MB free)
> Available space on drive C: 2829MB of 8024MB (FAT32)

Good luck installing the Verizon software that comes on the CD. I tried
a year ago to install it on a 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 with hundreds of GBs of
free disk space. The installation program told me the computer didn't
meet the minimum specs. The call to their 800 toll-free support line
was a joke. They didn't have a clue how to fix the installation program.

Google for raspppoe and install it. Don't even bother with the Verizon
software (if you can call it that). I think raspppoe comes in a Win98
version. That's all you need unless you want the MSN stuff.
July 8, 2004 2:53:05 AM

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i tried verizon about a year ago and hated that i had to install
all that software. they try to take over your whole computer,
IE browser gets renamed and everything.
I asked Customer Service how to use their DSL w/o having
to use the software and they told me I had to. I said in that
case my trial was over and returned their modem.

"Anthony Soprano" <tsoprano@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:k9%Gc.76124$kz.14876485@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> R. Reading wrote:
> > Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
> > Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=E:\WIN98 /IZ
/IS
> > /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
> > Uptime: 1:04:50:11
> > Normal mode
> > On "T9M5B3" as "Rob"
> >
> > GenuineIntel Pentium(r) Processor
> > 64MB RAM
> > 44% system resources free
> > Windows-managed swap file on drive C (2829MB free)
> > Available space on drive C: 2829MB of 8024MB (FAT32)
>
> Good luck installing the Verizon software that comes on the CD. I tried
> a year ago to install it on a 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 with hundreds of GBs of
> free disk space. The installation program told me the computer didn't
> meet the minimum specs. The call to their 800 toll-free support line
> was a joke. They didn't have a clue how to fix the installation program.
>
> Google for raspppoe and install it. Don't even bother with the Verizon
> software (if you can call it that). I think raspppoe comes in a Win98
> version. That's all you need unless you want the MSN stuff.
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 2:53:05 AM

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Wait, Anthony. This looks like great stuff but do not underestimate how
simple-minded I can be with this. I found the rasppoe site and am prepared
to download. But, then what? I don't have ethernet or USB. What do I need to
get? I don't care about MSN. Once connected, do I just click on the little
blue "e" IE icon or what?
Thanks for everything so far.
Rob

"Anthony Soprano" <tsoprano@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:k9%Gc.76124$kz.14876485@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> R. Reading wrote:
> > Microsoft Windows 98 4.10.2222 A
> > Clean install using Full OEM CD /T:C:\WININST0.400 /SrcDir=E:\WIN98 /IZ
/IS
> > /IQ /IT /II /NR /II /C /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > IE 5 6.0.2800.1106
> > Uptime: 1:04:50:11
> > Normal mode
> > On "T9M5B3" as "Rob"
> >
> > GenuineIntel Pentium(r) Processor
> > 64MB RAM
> > 44% system resources free
> > Windows-managed swap file on drive C (2829MB free)
> > Available space on drive C: 2829MB of 8024MB (FAT32)
>
> Good luck installing the Verizon software that comes on the CD. I tried
> a year ago to install it on a 1.5 GHz Pentium 4 with hundreds of GBs of
> free disk space. The installation program told me the computer didn't
> meet the minimum specs. The call to their 800 toll-free support line
> was a joke. They didn't have a clue how to fix the installation program.
>
> Google for raspppoe and install it. Don't even bother with the Verizon
> software (if you can call it that). I think raspppoe comes in a Win98
> version. That's all you need unless you want the MSN stuff.
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 4:30:14 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

if you are running eztrust already then you are in pretty good shape... but
you really want to also run ez-filewall which will slow you down quite a
bit... but even without it you are ok to go *if* you do not install their
(verizon) software. their software used to provide a necessary protocol
called pppoe as well as configure your networking, your email, add a bunch
of favorites to internet explorer, install the latest version of internet
explorer (version 6 which will stuggle with just 64mb of ram as you have in
your system), update your media player (to play things you may download from
the web), and a utility that allows their tech to be 'invited' to remotely
control your pc so that they can assist you (a big not thank you to that
one!), and so on... of all of these things the only ones that you really
need are the networking and the email, both of which can be installed
manually. recently verizon has been sending out a newer model of the westel
modem (the 2200) which has the pppoe protocol built into it (the device is
actually a modem and a router in a single unit). if you got this then the
networking is easy to configure, if you don't then you have to install the
pppoe protocol which is not native to windows 98 (and is problematic). but
first.. do you have a network port in your computer? have you installed a
network card...

"R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
news:10eoqs0fb3f6tc1@corp.supernews.com...
> Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
> Rob R.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> install
> > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience with
> > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you
can
> > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better experience
> than
> > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
processor
> to
> > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under
$30
> > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded
to
> > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it, either
> > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means it
> > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means you
> > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will
> likely
> > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and
> that
> > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> >
> > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166
> needs
> > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 4:30:15 AM

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Christopher, et al,
Here's what the modem box says: WESTELL Part #: A99-220015-00 (VERIZON NAT
COMBO 0/35 PPPOE)
Not sure what a network port is. Do not have a network card that I know of.
Thanks for all these great responses. I feel like we're getting close.
Rob

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:qA0Hc.8914$Al5.3181@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> if you are running eztrust already then you are in pretty good shape...
but
> you really want to also run ez-filewall which will slow you down quite a
> bit... but even without it you are ok to go *if* you do not install their
> (verizon) software. their software used to provide a necessary protocol
> called pppoe as well as configure your networking, your email, add a bunch
> of favorites to internet explorer, install the latest version of internet
> explorer (version 6 which will stuggle with just 64mb of ram as you have
in
> your system), update your media player (to play things you may download
from
> the web), and a utility that allows their tech to be 'invited' to remotely
> control your pc so that they can assist you (a big not thank you to that
> one!), and so on... of all of these things the only ones that you really
> need are the networking and the email, both of which can be installed
> manually. recently verizon has been sending out a newer model of the
westel
> modem (the 2200) which has the pppoe protocol built into it (the device is
> actually a modem and a router in a single unit). if you got this then the
> networking is easy to configure, if you don't then you have to install the
> pppoe protocol which is not native to windows 98 (and is problematic).
but
> first.. do you have a network port in your computer? have you installed a
> network card...
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10eoqs0fb3f6tc1@corp.supernews.com...
> > Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
> > Rob R.
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> > install
> > > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience
with
> > > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you
> can
> > > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
experience
> > than
> > > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
> processor
> > to
> > > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under
> $30
> > > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded
> to
> > > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
either
> > > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means
it
> > > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means
you
> > > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will
> > likely
> > > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and
> > that
> > > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> > >
> > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166
> > needs
> > > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> > > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 4:30:15 AM

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PS: currently running Zone Alarm firewall v. 5.0.590.043
Rob
"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:qA0Hc.8914$Al5.3181@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> if you are running eztrust already then you are in pretty good shape...
but
> you really want to also run ez-filewall which will slow you down quite a
> bit... but even without it you are ok to go *if* you do not install their
> (verizon) software. their software used to provide a necessary protocol
> called pppoe as well as configure your networking, your email, add a bunch
> of favorites to internet explorer, install the latest version of internet
> explorer (version 6 which will stuggle with just 64mb of ram as you have
in
> your system), update your media player (to play things you may download
from
> the web), and a utility that allows their tech to be 'invited' to remotely
> control your pc so that they can assist you (a big not thank you to that
> one!), and so on... of all of these things the only ones that you really
> need are the networking and the email, both of which can be installed
> manually. recently verizon has been sending out a newer model of the
westel
> modem (the 2200) which has the pppoe protocol built into it (the device is
> actually a modem and a router in a single unit). if you got this then the
> networking is easy to configure, if you don't then you have to install the
> pppoe protocol which is not native to windows 98 (and is problematic).
but
> first.. do you have a network port in your computer? have you installed a
> network card...
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10eoqs0fb3f6tc1@corp.supernews.com...
> > Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
> > Rob R.
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> > install
> > > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience
with
> > > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement. you
> can
> > > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
experience
> > than
> > > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
> processor
> > to
> > > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably under
> $30
> > > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if upgraded
> to
> > > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
either
> > > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that means
it
> > > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means
you
> > > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which will
> > likely
> > > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order.... and
> > that
> > > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> > >
> > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old 166
> > needs
> > > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this requirement?
> > > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 7:38:11 AM

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if you are running zone alarm and ez-trust on a p1 133mhz pc with 64mb of
ram than you must indeed be a very patient man.

it sound to me that all you need to get this to fly is install a network
adapter card into your computer. these are quite cheap and here is one that
i suggest for $17 delivered
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10017160&loc=...
you may be able to find one at a local computer store or office supply
store. any brand will do. what you need it a 'pci' type network card that
has an 'rj-45' jack... it would be hard to get any other kind of card unless
they had really old stock or cater to large corporations. once that is
installed then you need to plug a cable between that cards port and the
verizon modem... verizon supplies you with a cable. the also supply you
with a connect that lets you plug their modem into a 'usb' port but then you
will have to install some of their software and it will be less reliable...
come to think of it your system may not even have a usb port so ignore this.
at that point you should call verizon and tell them that you want to
configure your pc without their software and they should be able to talk you
through configuring the modem to log on to their service as well as
configure your pc for your verizon email. the best tech support that they
offer is the getting started line so use it... after that just hope you
never have a problem (and most people don't, at least not something that
turning off and then back on the equipment can't solve).

"R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
news:10ep7mlhbjs5467@corp.supernews.com...
> PS: currently running Zone Alarm firewall v. 5.0.590.043
> Rob
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:qA0Hc.8914$Al5.3181@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > if you are running eztrust already then you are in pretty good shape...
> but
> > you really want to also run ez-filewall which will slow you down quite a
> > bit... but even without it you are ok to go *if* you do not install
their
> > (verizon) software. their software used to provide a necessary protocol
> > called pppoe as well as configure your networking, your email, add a
bunch
> > of favorites to internet explorer, install the latest version of
internet
> > explorer (version 6 which will stuggle with just 64mb of ram as you have
> in
> > your system), update your media player (to play things you may download
> from
> > the web), and a utility that allows their tech to be 'invited' to
remotely
> > control your pc so that they can assist you (a big not thank you to that
> > one!), and so on... of all of these things the only ones that you
really
> > need are the networking and the email, both of which can be installed
> > manually. recently verizon has been sending out a newer model of the
> westel
> > modem (the 2200) which has the pppoe protocol built into it (the device
is
> > actually a modem and a router in a single unit). if you got this then
the
> > networking is easy to configure, if you don't then you have to install
the
> > pppoe protocol which is not native to windows 98 (and is problematic).
> but
> > first.. do you have a network port in your computer? have you installed
a
> > network card...
> >
> > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > news:10eoqs0fb3f6tc1@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
> > > Rob R.
> > >
> > > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need to
> > > install
> > > > any of their software. but they want you to have a good experience
> with
> > > > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement.
you
> > can
> > > > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
> experience
> > > than
> > > > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
> > processor
> > > to
> > > > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably
under
> > $30
> > > > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if
upgraded
> > to
> > > > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
> either
> > > > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that
means
> it
> > > > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that means
> you
> > > > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which
will
> > > likely
> > > > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order....
and
> > > that
> > > > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> > > >
> > > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old
166
> > > needs
> > > > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this
requirement?
> > > > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 1:12:47 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
minutes
or so.
Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if I
must.
Rob R.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:D k3Hc.39708$MT5.2464@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> if you are running zone alarm and ez-trust on a p1 133mhz pc with 64mb of
> ram than you must indeed be a very patient man.
>
> it sound to me that all you need to get this to fly is install a network
> adapter card into your computer. these are quite cheap and here is one
that
> i suggest for $17 delivered
> http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10017160&loc=...
> you may be able to find one at a local computer store or office supply
> store. any brand will do. what you need it a 'pci' type network card
that
> has an 'rj-45' jack... it would be hard to get any other kind of card
unless
> they had really old stock or cater to large corporations. once that is
> installed then you need to plug a cable between that cards port and the
> verizon modem... verizon supplies you with a cable. the also supply you
> with a connect that lets you plug their modem into a 'usb' port but then
you
> will have to install some of their software and it will be less
reliable...
> come to think of it your system may not even have a usb port so ignore
this.
> at that point you should call verizon and tell them that you want to
> configure your pc without their software and they should be able to talk
you
> through configuring the modem to log on to their service as well as
> configure your pc for your verizon email. the best tech support that they
> offer is the getting started line so use it... after that just hope you
> never have a problem (and most people don't, at least not something that
> turning off and then back on the equipment can't solve).
>
> "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> news:10ep7mlhbjs5467@corp.supernews.com...
> > PS: currently running Zone Alarm firewall v. 5.0.590.043
> > Rob
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:qA0Hc.8914$Al5.3181@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > if you are running eztrust already then you are in pretty good
shape...
> > but
> > > you really want to also run ez-filewall which will slow you down quite
a
> > > bit... but even without it you are ok to go *if* you do not install
> their
> > > (verizon) software. their software used to provide a necessary
protocol
> > > called pppoe as well as configure your networking, your email, add a
> bunch
> > > of favorites to internet explorer, install the latest version of
> internet
> > > explorer (version 6 which will stuggle with just 64mb of ram as you
have
> > in
> > > your system), update your media player (to play things you may
download
> > from
> > > the web), and a utility that allows their tech to be 'invited' to
> remotely
> > > control your pc so that they can assist you (a big not thank you to
that
> > > one!), and so on... of all of these things the only ones that you
> really
> > > need are the networking and the email, both of which can be installed
> > > manually. recently verizon has been sending out a newer model of the
> > westel
> > > modem (the 2200) which has the pppoe protocol built into it (the
device
> is
> > > actually a modem and a router in a single unit). if you got this then
> the
> > > networking is easy to configure, if you don't then you have to install
> the
> > > pppoe protocol which is not native to windows 98 (and is
problematic).
> > but
> > > first.. do you have a network port in your computer? have you
installed
> a
> > > network card...
> > >
> > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10eoqs0fb3f6tc1@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Also running eTrust EZ Antivirus (vers 6.1.7.0)
> > > > Rob R.
> > > >
> > > > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:lzZGc.36897$MT5.34209@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> > > > > you don't really need a fast computer to use dsl. you don't need
to
> > > > install
> > > > > any of their software. but they want you to have a good
experience
> > with
> > > > > their service so state this somewhat low performance requirement.
> you
> > > can
> > > > > buy the cheapest new computer you can and have a much better
> > experience
> > > > than
> > > > > you with your old pc, or you could purchase a pentium overdrive
> > > processor
> > > > to
> > > > > install in your present pc to achieve the 233mhz speed (probably
> under
> > > $30
> > > > > on ebay). but given the 166mhz performance level, or even if
> upgraded
> > > to
> > > > > the 233mhz speed, your computer probably has old software on it,
> > either
> > > > > windows 95 or at best a early version of windows 98... and that
> means
> > it
> > > > > will not be able to run the newer antivirus software, and that
means
> > you
> > > > > will be surfing at high speed with an unprotected computer which
> will
> > > > likely
> > > > > get infected with some sort of virus or trojan in short order....
> and
> > > > that
> > > > > will make it even slower and create additional problems...
> > > > >
> > > > > "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:10eoo8b175v9c8f@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > Tried to sign up for Verizon DSL service but found my trusty old
> 166
> > > > needs
> > > > > > to be at least 233 mhz. Can I do anything to meet this
> requirement?
> > > > > > Thanks, Rob R.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 10:27:13 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows 98,
especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.

If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB SIMMs to max
out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can handle.

This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote:

>Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
>minutes
> or so.
>Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if I
>must.
>Rob R.
>
<SNIPS>
Anonymous
July 8, 2004 10:27:14 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
Rob R.

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows 98,
> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
>
> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB SIMMs
to max
> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can
handle.
>
> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
>
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
wrote:
>
> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
> >minutes
> > or so.
> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if I
> >must.
> >Rob R.
> >
> <SNIPS>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 4:46:27 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Rob,

The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium & Pentium MMX
era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of the early
168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has 168-pin DIMM
sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's been a
while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB EDO DIMMs,
or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more. If you can
find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth it.

BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
confusing the world.

On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is very
much possible.

Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on the Dell
web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of the areas
where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote:

>Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
>Rob R.
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
>> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
>> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows 98,
>> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
>>
>> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB SIMMs
>to max
>> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can
>handle.
>>
>> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
>> >minutes
>> > or so.
>> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if I
>> >must.
>> >Rob R.
>> >
>> <SNIPS>
>
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 12:08:02 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Ben,
I did this once but maybe you can see something I can't.
7Q2F5
Thanks,
Rob

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40ede965.22833194@news.charter.net...
> Rob,
>
> The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium & Pentium
MMX
> era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of the
early
> 168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has 168-pin
DIMM
> sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's
been a
> while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB EDO
DIMMs,
> or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more. If
you can
> find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth it.
>
> BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
> confusing the world.
>
> On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is
very
> much possible.
>
> Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on the
Dell
> web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of the
areas
> where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers
>
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
wrote:
>
> >Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
> >Rob R.
> >
> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
> >> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
> >> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows
98,
> >> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
> >>
> >> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB
SIMMs
> >to max
> >> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can
> >handle.
> >>
> >> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
> >> >minutes
> >> > or so.
> >> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if
I
> >> >must.
> >> >Rob R.
> >> >
> >> <SNIPS>
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 4:30:20 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Rob,

The original configuration info for 7Q2F5 contains the following line:

1 98165 Dual In-Line Memory Module, 32, 66M, 4X64, 4K, 168, 2C

The system shipped originally with one 32MB PC66 168-pin DIMM module, so it has
two DIMM sockets. Apparently another 32MB module was added to the system for a
total of 64MB. So practically speaking, your system is now at its limit of
64MB... Ben Myers

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:08:02 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote:

>Ben,
>I did this once but maybe you can see something I can't.
>7Q2F5
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:40ede965.22833194@news.charter.net...
>> Rob,
>>
>> The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium & Pentium
>MMX
>> era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of the
>early
>> 168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has 168-pin
>DIMM
>> sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's
>been a
>> while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB EDO
>DIMMs,
>> or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more. If
>you can
>> find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth it.
>>
>> BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
>> confusing the world.
>>
>> On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is
>very
>> much possible.
>>
>> Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on the
>Dell
>> web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of the
>areas
>> where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
>> >Rob R.
>> >
>> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> >news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
>> >> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
>> >> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows
>98,
>> >> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
>> >>
>> >> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB
>SIMMs
>> >to max
>> >> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can
>> >handle.
>> >>
>> >> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
>> >> >minutes
>> >> > or so.
>> >> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if
>I
>> >> >must.
>> >> >Rob R.
>> >> >
>> >> <SNIPS>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 4:33:04 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Rob,

And the line item below indicates a 166MHz Pentium MMX.

1 82662 Integrated Circuit, 8050266-166M, PPGA296

If you can get hold of a 233MHz Pentium MMX, it will plug and play and operate
properly with the change of a couple of jumper settings... Ben

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:08:02 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote:

>Ben,
>I did this once but maybe you can see something I can't.
>7Q2F5
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:40ede965.22833194@news.charter.net...
>> Rob,
>>
>> The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium & Pentium
>MMX
>> era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of the
>early
>> 168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has 168-pin
>DIMM
>> sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's
>been a
>> while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB EDO
>DIMMs,
>> or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more. If
>you can
>> find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth it.
>>
>> BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
>> confusing the world.
>>
>> On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is
>very
>> much possible.
>>
>> Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on the
>Dell
>> web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of the
>areas
>> where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
>> >Rob R.
>> >
>> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>> >news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
>> >> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
>> >> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for Windows
>98,
>> >> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
>> >>
>> >> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB
>SIMMs
>> >to max
>> >> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset can
>> >handle.
>> >>
>> >> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every thirty
>> >> >minutes
>> >> > or so.
>> >> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order if
>I
>> >> >must.
>> >> >Rob R.
>> >> >
>> >> <SNIPS>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 4:33:05 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Ben,
Thanks a bunch. I guess ebay would be as good a place as any to start?
BTW, do I just plug my new ethernet PCI card into the slot where my dial-up
modem is now?
Rob

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40ee9015.1224081@news.charter.net...
> Rob,
>
> And the line item below indicates a 166MHz Pentium MMX.
>
> 1 82662 Integrated Circuit, 8050266-166M, PPGA296
>
> If you can get hold of a 233MHz Pentium MMX, it will plug and play and
operate
> properly with the change of a couple of jumper settings... Ben
>
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:08:02 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
wrote:
>
> >Ben,
> >I did this once but maybe you can see something I can't.
> >7Q2F5
> >Thanks,
> >Rob
> >
> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >news:40ede965.22833194@news.charter.net...
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium &
Pentium
> >MMX
> >> era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of
the
> >early
> >> 168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has
168-pin
> >DIMM
> >> sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's
> >been a
> >> while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB
EDO
> >DIMMs,
> >> or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more.
If
> >you can
> >> find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth
it.
> >>
> >> BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
> >> confusing the world.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is
> >very
> >> much possible.
> >>
> >> Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on
the
> >Dell
> >> web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of
the
> >areas
> >> where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
> >> >Rob R.
> >> >
> >> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >> >news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
> >> >> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
> >> >> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for
Windows
> >98,
> >> >> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
> >> >>
> >> >> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB
> >SIMMs
> >> >to max
> >> >> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset
can
> >> >handle.
> >> >>
> >> >> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading"
<reading@intercom.net>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every
thirty
> >> >> >minutes
> >> >> > or so.
> >> >> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order
if
> >I
> >> >> >must.
> >> >> >Rob R.
> >> >> >
> >> >> <SNIPS>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 5:12:58 PM

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Ben,
Saw a few on ebay. ($5 or $6 + shipping) For a socket 7 motherboard. Do I
have that? Also saw one with a fan. What's that about?
Thanks,
Rob

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40ee9015.1224081@news.charter.net...
> Rob,
>
> And the line item below indicates a 166MHz Pentium MMX.
>
> 1 82662 Integrated Circuit, 8050266-166M, PPGA296
>
> If you can get hold of a 233MHz Pentium MMX, it will plug and play and
operate
> properly with the change of a couple of jumper settings... Ben
>
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:08:02 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
wrote:
>
> >Ben,
> >I did this once but maybe you can see something I can't.
> >7Q2F5
> >Thanks,
> >Rob
> >
> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >news:40ede965.22833194@news.charter.net...
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> The industry went thru a very funky period late in the Pentium &
Pentium
> >MMX
> >> era. That was when the first 168-pin memory was introduced. Some of
the
> >early
> >> 168s were EDO, others early, early SDRAM. If your motherboard has
168-pin
> >DIMM
> >> sockets, you may very well be maxed out at 64MB. As I recall (but it's
> >been a
> >> while), some of the Intel chipset boards would accept a pair of 64MB
EDO
> >DIMMs,
> >> or a pair 32MB SDRAM DIMMs. The right EDO is hard to find any more.
If
> >you can
> >> find it from a memory dealer, you will pay dearly for it. Not worth
it.
> >>
> >> BTW, 168-pin DIMMs also went thru a transition from 5v to 3.3v, further
> >> confusing the world.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, if your computer has 4 72-pin SIMM sockets, 128MB is
> >very
> >> much possible.
> >>
> >> Pop open the case and see. Or post the service tag and I can look on
the
> >Dell
> >> web site. So can you, if you haven't already. The web site is one of
the
> >areas
> >> where Dell shines. (So does IBM's.)... Ben Myers
> >>
> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:52:13 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ben, Dell tells me I'm maxed out at 64. Am I not?
> >> >Rob R.
> >> >
> >> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >> >news:40ed9168.305219@news.charter.net...
> >> >> Well, while you're being patient, find the time to add memory to the
> >> >> motherboard, if possible. 64MB is a little bit lean, even for
Windows
> >98,
> >> >> especially with ZoneAlarm and other software taking up memory space.
> >> >>
> >> >> If the motherboard has 72-pin SIMM sockets, fill all four with 32MB
> >SIMMs
> >> >to max
> >> >> out the capacity at 128MB, as much as a Pentium with Intel chipset
can
> >> >handle.
> >> >>
> >> >> This older memory is dirt cheap nowadays... Ben Myers
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:12:47 -0400, "R. Reading"
<reading@intercom.net>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Patience is my middle name, especially if I don't reboot every
thirty
> >> >> >minutes
> >> >> > or so.
> >> >> >Thanks for all this. I'll look for the card locally and then order
if
> >I
> >> >> >must.
> >> >> >Rob R.
> >> >> >
> >> >> <SNIPS>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
July 9, 2004 9:54:57 PM

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Rob, Yes, Socket 7... Ben

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:12:58 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net> wrote:

>Ben,
>Saw a few on ebay. ($5 or $6 + shipping) For a socket 7 motherboard. Do I
>have that? Also saw one with a fan. What's that about?
>Thanks,
>Rob
>
<SNIP>
Anonymous
July 11, 2004 12:11:07 AM

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R. Reading wrote:
> Wait, Anthony. This looks like great stuff but do not underestimate how
> simple-minded I can be with this. I found the rasppoe site and am prepared
> to download. But, then what? I don't have ethernet or USB. What do I need to
> get? I don't care about MSN. Once connected, do I just click on the little
> blue "e" IE icon or what?
> Thanks for everything so far.
> Rob

I'm a little late to this party, but I'm surprised that nobody has
suggested a router. As long as you have that you won't need to install
any PPPOE software. Just call Verizon and request a user ID and
password, set up the router with that info and you're good to go.

HTH,

Bob
Anonymous
July 12, 2004 8:32:08 AM

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lookin up your system tag number... i sifted through my memory and came up
with this stuff as i remember it...

the dell dimension pxxxs series only accepts 2-clock type dimms of up to
32mb each (system max of 64mb)
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/dta/_trmntor/0000...
he appears to be maxed out.

the pxxxs is a socket 7 motherboard but it does not natively support the
dual voltage required by the mmx type processors. to install a 233Mhz mmx
processor a voltage regulator is required or you will ruin the motherboard.
a voltage regulator plugs into the processor socket and then the processor
plugs into the regulator. this regulator is an integral part of a 'intel
pentium overdrive' type processor for socket 7 (not socket 5, aka, 486 based
computers). you can get either the 180Mhz intel over drive or the 200Mhz
intel overdrive. the difference is just marketing. either will run at
200Mhz in your 66Mhz (internal speed) system. to go to the 233Mhz mmx you
will need to purchase a separate voltage regulator from the likes of
powerleap.com and a separate processor (intel pentium 233Mhz with mmx). it
wasn't economical in it's day and probably not worth the effort today.
alternative upgrade processors for the socket 7 will not work in this intel
motherboard (not the 'winchip' based processors or the others ones...). i
do not currently see the pentium overdrive 200mhz on ebay but i think i can
dig one up if you really want it... (email me directly to discuss).



<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40eedbd1.20615021@news.charter.net...
> Rob, Yes, Socket 7... Ben
>
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:12:58 -0400, "R. Reading" <reading@intercom.net>
wrote:
>
> >Ben,
> >Saw a few on ebay. ($5 or $6 + shipping) For a socket 7 motherboard. Do I
> >have that? Also saw one with a fan. What's that about?
> >Thanks,
> >Rob
> >
> <SNIP>
Anonymous
July 12, 2004 11:23:44 AM

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:11:07 GMT, Bob Levine
<robjlevin.nospan@netscape.net> wrote:

>
>I'm a little late to this party, but I'm surprised that nobody has
>suggested a router. As long as you have that you won't need to install
>any PPPOE software. Just call Verizon and request a user ID and
>password, set up the router with that info and you're good to go.

Sure second that. Any broadband user should have a router, even if
they do not network, in my opinion.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
Anonymous
July 14, 2004 4:25:30 AM

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Guys,
Shortly after my last post, my hard drive died. While my local shop is
figuring out if there is any hope. I bought a new system. Being a 1st grade
teacher, I am still infinitely patient but I am now running an Athlon 2000+
processor with 512 of RAM and an 80 g hard drive. I am downtown!
Thanks for all your help.
Rob R.
Anonymous
July 14, 2004 5:32:35 AM

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Rob,

Probably not much hope for the old Dell. By the time you've paid for
installation of a new hard drive plus the drive itself, you will have exceeded
the value of a used Socket Pentium or Pentium MMX system. Around here, I can't
sell them for much of anything, so the nicer old Dells go into a spare parts
pile. The ugly HP Vectras and even uglier Compaq Presarios and old DeskPros get
stripped for electronic scrap. I can't sell anything slower than some sort of
Pentium 3, usually. I last sold a Pentium system a couple of years ago to a guy
who wanted to make it a firewall/router running Linux.

If you brought the old Dell system in to me for repair, I'd tell you it's not
worth repairing. I hope that the local shop you deal with has the integrity to
tell you the same... Ben Myers

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:25:30 GMT, "Robert Reading" <rreading@verizon.net> wrote:

>Guys,
>Shortly after my last post, my hard drive died. While my local shop is
>figuring out if there is any hope. I bought a new system. Being a 1st grade
>teacher, I am still infinitely patient but I am now running an Athlon 2000+
>processor with 512 of RAM and an 80 g hard drive. I am downtown!
>Thanks for all your help.
>Rob R.
>
>
Anonymous
July 14, 2004 9:51:34 PM

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rob, since your new machine is anthlon based (and excellent processor), that
means it isn't a dell... you new machine may be a good deal but consider
this good dell deal tha ends today.... dell 4600 with 2.8/533fsb, 512mb
ram, 80gb hard disk, floppy, modem, 10/100 nic, windows xp home, dvd drive,
cdrw drive (yes, two drives), and 17" flat panel monitor, sound bar
(speakers) that connects to monitor, 2 year warranty, for $1,008 plus $0
shipping, plus local sales tax, less a $100 rebate.... reduce the price by
$200 if you don't want the monitor, or buy it with the monitor and sell the
monitor on ebay and make at least $100...

"Robert Reading" <rreading@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:_3%Ic.62250$qw1.14812@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> Guys,
> Shortly after my last post, my hard drive died. While my local shop is
> figuring out if there is any hope. I bought a new system. Being a 1st
grade
> teacher, I am still infinitely patient but I am now running an Athlon
2000+
> processor with 512 of RAM and an 80 g hard drive. I am downtown!
> Thanks for all your help.
> Rob R.
>
>
!