ATTN Elmo

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I have concluded that there is definitely something in a recent (last
month or so) zone software update that makes it incompatible with and
windows os running under virtual pc on mac. This worked fine for me for
over a year until recently. I am positive of this conclusion after
having run many many tests and reinstalling many many things.

Anyway, can you pass the word along to whoever might be able to remedy
this and have them:

a) try this scenario out - you will see that it no longer works

b) hopefully fix it

Thanks...
 
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Bean wrote:
>
> I have concluded that there is definitely something in a recent (last
> month or so) zone software update that makes it incompatible with and
> windows os running under virtual pc on mac. This worked fine for me for
> over a year until recently. I am positive of this conclusion after
> having run many many tests and reinstalling many many things.
>
> Anyway, can you pass the word along to whoever might be able to remedy
> this and have them:
>
> a) try this scenario out - you will see that it no longer works
>
> b) hopefully fix it
>
> Thanks...

OK, I forwarded two of your posts and an explanation. Hopefully
something will come of it. That is a strange one; it makes one wonder
why a working copy of Windows would stop supporting the Zone. You'd
think all entries in the registry and elsewhere, would be the same.
Surely the ActiveX components and other Zone software wouldn't check the
processor and other hardware that might be different. But maybe a
"somewhat universal" command set at that level is missing from the Mac
chips.. Or does VPC supply a PC processor too?

--

+Elmo_Tech
MSN® Gaming Zone™ - Technical Support
 

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VPC does processor emulation. Here's a post that provides great details:

Howdy, Bean,

I tried again with the zone software, and have a failure similar if not
identical to what I had orginally. Here's what I did:

1) Starting with a fresh PC and OS (XP Pro) as far as the zone is concerned.
2) went to zone.msn.com
3) clicked "sign-in.net" and signed in
4) clicked on "backgammon"
5) recalling previous problems with zone installation regarding popups,
5a) followed instructions to disable popups and enable cookies, at
zone.msn.com/en/support/article/support3209.htm
5b) except that the option "Override automatic cookie handling"
does not exist in the advanced tab, so I omitted that step
6) (back to backgammon page) click on "play with others"
7) browser window shows "msn games, downloading and installing latest
version"
8) A message comes up near the top of my browser: "this site might require
the following activeX control: essential msn games file"
8a) I choose "install activeX control", but meanwhile I notice that
the installation of step 7 has timed out
9) The browser window shows step 7 again, back at 0% (the 'timed out
message has disappeared".
9a) A popup asks if I want to install this... Yes
9b) This goes through the full 100%
10) browser window now shows "loading backgammon games rooms"
11) A popup says "this will install the MSN Gaming Zone Software".
11a) I accept the default location
11b) "installing zone files" goes through 95 of 95KB
12) A popup requests that I accept the terms of use. I do.
13) A popup says "installing zone files for zone friends".
13a) it goes through 843 of 843KB
14) A popup says
"zone has encountered a problem and needs to close"
14a) I follow the links to detail of the error. It is in
zone.exe and is an exception with
code: 0xC0000005 flags: 0
record: 0 address: 0...0106FB69
14b) I choose to report the error to microsoft

15) Eventually a popu tells me it has detected an incomplete installation
of the zone software.

Anyone know enough about the intel processor line to know what exception
C0000005 is? Either there's an error in the zone.exe software, or there's
an error in VPC in it's emulation of the intel processor. In either case,
uSoft can't do their usual finger pointing and point at the other guy,
because the source for both is uSoft. On the other hand uSoft doesn't
support either product, so they're just using a non-pointing finger, raised
toward us.

Bob H


On 2004-11-24 10:08:17 -0500, +Elmo_Tech <elmogeek@iglou.invalid> said:

> Bean wrote:
>>
>> I have concluded that there is definitely something in a recent (last
>> month or so) zone software update that makes it incompatible with and
>> windows os running under virtual pc on mac. This worked fine for me for
>> over a year until recently. I am positive of this conclusion after
>> having run many many tests and reinstalling many many things.
>>
>> Anyway, can you pass the word along to whoever might be able to remedy
>> this and have them:
>>
>> a) try this scenario out - you will see that it no longer works
>>
>> b) hopefully fix it
>>
>> Thanks...
>
> OK, I forwarded two of your posts and an explanation. Hopefully
> something will come of it. That is a strange one; it makes one wonder
> why a working copy of Windows would stop supporting the Zone. You'd
> think all entries in the registry and elsewhere, would be the same.
> Surely the ActiveX components and other Zone software wouldn't check the
> processor and other hardware that might be different. But maybe a
> "somewhat universal" command set at that level is missing from the Mac
> chips.. Or does VPC supply a PC processor too?
 

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Thank you for your assistance!

On 2004-11-24 10:08:17 -0500, +Elmo_Tech <elmogeek@iglou.invalid> said:

> Bean wrote:
>>
>> I have concluded that there is definitely something in a recent (last
>> month or so) zone software update that makes it incompatible with and
>> windows os running under virtual pc on mac. This worked fine for me for
>> over a year until recently. I am positive of this conclusion after
>> having run many many tests and reinstalling many many things.
>>
>> Anyway, can you pass the word along to whoever might be able to remedy
>> this and have them:
>>
>> a) try this scenario out - you will see that it no longer works
>>
>> b) hopefully fix it
>>
>> Thanks...
>
> OK, I forwarded two of your posts and an explanation. Hopefully
> something will come of it. That is a strange one; it makes one wonder
> why a working copy of Windows would stop supporting the Zone. You'd
> think all entries in the registry and elsewhere, would be the same.
> Surely the ActiveX components and other Zone software wouldn't check the
> processor and other hardware that might be different. But maybe a
> "somewhat universal" command set at that level is missing from the Mac
> chips.. Or does VPC supply a PC processor too?