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quadmaster   02-17-2005 at 06:31:45 AM

Which is the fastest AMD Processor available
Hope its AMD Athlon 64 4000+ & FX-55 Socket 939
Dont know which Core

AMD ATHLON 64 4000+ TECH SPECS:
L1 Cache Size: 64KB data + 64KB instruction = 128KB Total
L2 Cache Size: 1MB (exclusive)
CPU Core Frequency: 2.40GHz
CPU to Memory Controller: 2.40GHz
Memory: Integrated 128-bit wide memory controller
Types of Memory: PC1600, PC2100, PC2700 and PC3200 DDR memory
HyperTransport Links: 1
HyperTransport Spec: 2GHz (2x 1000MHz / DDR)
Effective data bandwidth: Up to 14.4 GB/sec (8GB/sec
HyperTransport bandwidth plus 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth)
Packaging: 939-pin organic micro-PGA
Fab location: AMD's Fab 30 wafer fabrication facility in Dresden, Germany
Process Technology: 130nm (.13-micron) Silicon on Insulator (SOI)
Approximate Transistor count: 105.9 million
Approximate Die Size: 193mm2
Nominal Voltage: 1.50 V
Max Ambient Case Temp: 70 degrees Celsius
Max Thermal Power: 89 W
Max Icc (processor current): 57.4A

AMD ATHLON 64 FX55 TECH SPECS:
L1 Cache Size: 64KB data + 64KB instruction = 128KB Total
L2 Cache Size: 1MB (exclusive)
CPU Core Frequency: 2.60GHz
CPU to Memory Controller: 2.60GHz
Memory: Integrated 128-bit wide memory controller
Types of Memory: PC1600, PC2100, PC2700 and PC3200 DDR memory
HyperTransport Links: 1
HyperTransport Spec: 2GHz (2x 1000MHz / DDR)
Effective data bandwidth: Up to 14.4 GB/sec (8GB/sec
HyperTransport bandwidth plus 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth)
Packaging: 939-pin organic micro-PGA
Fab location: AMD's Fab 30 wafer fabrication facility in Dresden, Germany
Process Technology: 130nm (.13-micron) Silicon on Insulator (SOI)
Approximate Transistor count: 105.9 million
Approximate Die Size: 193mm2
Nominal Voltage: 1.50 V
Max Ambient Case Temp: 63 degrees Celsius
Max Thermal Power: 104 W
Max Icc (processor current): 80A

I wanted to know how much can they be overclocked to
and even after overclocking to that level can they be stable.

How much can the Bus be over clocked.

Config i am using with this CPU
Motherboard Used ASUS A8N-Sli
Kingston HyperX 2-2-2-5-1 (CAS Latency 2) Unbuffered
KHX3200ULK2/1G 1GB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL2
Dual Channel Kit.
XFX 6600GT PCI-E x16 GPU [1 card only]

Normal Fans used not special cooling kit.

I wanted to know what all things can be overclocked and
will my system run stable with this overclocked state.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by quadmaster on 02/17/05 00:40 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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shawnlizzle =]   02-17-2005 at 06:38:25 AM
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i don't know much bout how much you can OC both of them, but it should be very similar (2.8?) however, i don't think ur video card can pair up with ur cpu, i mean u'll spend 1k on a processor and ur performance will be hindered by the fact that you don't have a fast video card. i would suggest down grade ur cpu and upgrade ur video card. =\

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quadmaster   02-17-2005 at 07:41:22 AM
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The 6600GT is the fastest GPU available in India
The 6800s have not come yet

thats why the 6600GT

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Anonymous   02-17-2005 at 08:18:55 AM
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That's unfortunate. Perhaps you should wait awhile until they do and save some cash for then. Or i suppose you could just go with what you have and that upgrade your vid card later.

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quadmaster   02-17-2005 at 09:06:22 AM
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Please help
Wanted the Overclocking limits of the Processor
and other parts.

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Anonymous   02-17-2005 at 09:20:55 AM
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You know, Im not sure about those 2, I've never used either but you may have more success if you post in the overclocking cpu forum

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ChipDeath   02-17-2005 at 10:07:03 AM
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if you're overclocking, getting the top-end CPU is usually a waste of cash, as it won't overclock any further than the ones a couple of steps down. Save some cash and get a 3500+ winchester instead

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Vapor   02-17-2005 at 01:14:56 PM
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That's actually not true right now as the 4000+ and the FX-55 both use utilize strained silicon, unlike the rest of the entire line.

@quadmaster: The FX-55 can usually hit 2.9-3.0 on good aircooling, 2.8 on stock. The 4000+ usually maxes at 2.8 on good aircooling and 2.7 on stock. 4000+s are just FX-55s that didn't make the cut, the FX-55 will give you the best performance available from AMD at this time, even after being OCd.

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ChipDeath   02-17-2005 at 01:27:17 PM
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I thought the 4000+ was just a rebadged FX-53, and the 55 was the only one with improvements?

That said, I also forgot that the FX has the unlocked multiplier, which does make it a good choice if money is not a concern...

I still don't think the FX-55 is worth the extra $, even if it does OC slightly more. a 3200+ or 3500+ should be able to get to 2.6 with a little effort, and costs a fraction of the price.

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pauldh   02-17-2005 at 03:40:08 PM
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Yeah, I wonder what the chips cost in India. Here in the US, I'd rather try to OC a 3500+ for 1/3 the cost. The fully unlocked FX55 would be my choice for sure if money was no object.


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shawnlizzle =]   02-18-2005 at 12:42:43 AM
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why don't the guy try ordering parts and ship them over sea =D... or do most websites ship on US or somethign o.O

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quadmaster   02-18-2005 at 01:41:03 PM
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I am currently not purchasing and Hardware but wanted to
make sure a certain things before purchasing it.

Thanks for your replies.

Its not that the 6800Gt will not come it does take a time
for hardware to show up here in India.

But doesnt matter.

I have enough time to purchase my hardware around 3-4 months
by that time i expect the AMD processor prices to go a
little more down.

Has the 4000+ & FX-55 have unlocked multipliers.

I asked about OCing because as each Processor 3500+,3800+
is OCable then why not 4000+ & FX-55 it also could be OCable.

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Rugger   02-18-2005 at 01:53:23 PM
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At least the FX55 has onlocked multipliers - I think the 4000+ is unlocked, too.

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RichPLS   02-18-2005 at 03:33:57 PM
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I thought only the FX series are un-locked.

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Rugger   02-18-2005 at 04:19:15 PM
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I thought the 4000+ were unlocked becasue they were redesig FX-53 or 51. But you could be correct - just don't remember right now.

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Ned_Flanders   02-18-2005 at 05:26:58 PM
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they are rebadged, but AMD will lock the mults, so you can only use the lower ones.

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Rugger   02-18-2005 at 06:13:50 PM
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Ok - misunderstanding on my part! :redface: Thanks Ned!

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quadmaster   02-18-2005 at 06:26:51 PM
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Are the mmultipliers locked for both + & FX
What about a little old + & FX versions 3200/3500/3800
& 51/53

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quadmaster   02-18-2005 at 06:26:56 PM
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Are the multipliers locked for both + & FX
What about a little old + & FX versions 3200/3500/3800
& 51/53

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Rugger   02-18-2005 at 06:30:33 PM
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The current FX series chips are the FX53 and FX55.

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TheRod   02-18-2005 at 06:40:49 PM
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FX are unlocked, all other Athlon 64 are locked.

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endyen   02-19-2005 at 03:00:57 AM
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Only the FX chips are completely unlocked. All the other chips have a max multiplier, but you can use lower multipiers, for OCing, if the mobo supports it.

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quadmaster   02-19-2005 at 04:42:19 AM
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Only FX series has unlocked multipliers to OC up.

So no OCing for AMD A64+ Series.

What are maxmultipliers.

Does the ASUS A8N-Sli Mobo support A64+ Series UPward OCing.

I dont want to OC Lower.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by quadmaster on 02/18/05 10:43 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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