Intel or Amd

mason4 · Mar 12, 2005

I want to build a new tower and can't make up my mind which cpu to go with the P4 or the Amd 64. I am leaning toward the athlon 64 but which CPU. Socket 754 or the Newcastle Core 64bit CPU Socket 939.I would also like to put in the fastest hard drive i can if the price is right. Just want some ideas on what to buy and where.
I have about $1200.00 to spend.
Thanks for your help.

Edited by mason4 on 03/12/05 09:24 AM.

Ned_Flanders · Mar 12, 2005

AMD. Din't need to read your post (I did though, just to be sure :lol: )

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Cybercraig · Mar 12, 2005

Well, if you're the kind of guy that's awed by ATA drives you should look into an AMD XP-2500+. That would be about your speed.

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endyen · Mar 12, 2005

Computers aren't much good, unless you have a use for them. If you tell us what you want to use it for, we may better be able to help you spend your money. It being friday night, some will suggest beer.

jammydodger · Mar 12, 2005

Are the ATA hard drives as good as they say?

As good as who says? Nearly all desktop hard drives are ATA! What is there to compare them to? I think what you are refferring to is Serial ATA (as opposed to the older parrellel ATA). Serial ATA provides little to no performance increase over parrellel ATA.

In regards to your CPU question, the athlon64 is better for games and certain other apps. But I think intel still rules the roost for video/photo editing. However the new intel CPU consumes more power and is hotter than any other desktop CPU on the market. This results in stability issues and CPU throttling if your case is not properly ventilated.

Cybercraig · Mar 12, 2005

Get a Socket 939 - A64-3200+ on an SLi platform with 1gb of Ballistix or the TCCD Ram of your choice and a PCI-E GeForce 256mb 6800 GPU to start with. Add a case and a 74mb Raptor and you are still under $1200.00. 120mb SATA's are cheap also so get 2 and RAID them. The value build is the Socket 754 but why bother if you've got the dough? The series 6 Pentiums are too new to jump on at this point.

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Spitfire_x86 · Mar 12, 2005

socket 754 also provides better performance, not just better performance/$

Socket 754 A64 3400+ (2.4 GHz) is lot better than 2.0 GHz S939 A64 3200+.

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Cybercraig · Mar 13, 2005

You couldn't prove that by mine. It only beat my xp-2500+ by 2000 in Aquamark3 with the same GPU. Now maybe the 3400 is better clocked at 2.4 instead of 2.2, but if I had the dough at this point I would be clockin' a 939. JMHO

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Guest · Mar 13, 2005

Wow, I haven't heard many folks around here recommend a 939 over a 754 based on performance. How avant garde.

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Rugger · Mar 13, 2005

It's really not that uncommon, especially since the s939 prices have dropped...and will continue to drop.

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coylter · Mar 13, 2005

All the new 939 cpu are 90nm and can be overclocked higher than their socket 754 counterpart.

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RichPLS · Mar 13, 2005

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Cybercraig · Mar 13, 2005

The letters "ECS" shall never grace my motherboard! :lol:

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RichPLS · Mar 13, 2005

Nor mine, but I am surprized they researched the concept...

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Rugger · Mar 14, 2005

True, but why buy something that's more expensive and requires you to OC it to get the same performance as the less expensive part? And it's not like the s754 is incapable of being OCed...they actually OC pretty well, especially with the DFI nf3 250.

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Cybercraig · Mar 14, 2005

It would be a nice test platform for somebody, but I can't figure out who the hell it's actually aimed at.

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Rugger · Mar 14, 2005

FOr those people with Decidophobia! Can't make the decision for AMD or Intel, then we have a deal for YOU!

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endyen · Mar 14, 2005

There are still some people who would benefit from one of those platforms, over the others. To get a better answer, answer these questions.
1 What do you use your computer for?
2 How often do you upgrade?
3 Do you ever upgrade parts of your computer, and if so what?

silverpig · Mar 14, 2005

Cause in a few months/year/whatever time you can just pop in a S939 dual core cpu.

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Cyrus · Mar 18, 2005

How about for server usage? Is AMD64 better than Intel too? Please let me know the reasons because my friend wants to build one.

endyen · Mar 19, 2005

For servers, the big question would be what software. How many users is also important.

Cyrus · Mar 19, 2005

How about for ERP system software? Which one's better?

endyen · Mar 19, 2005

ERP is not generally processor intensive. If the system is 24/7 operation, a server with ECC is a good idea. For small to medium enterprise with a daily shutdown cycle, any modern processor will suffice. The key to ERP is storage requirements, more than a fast chip.

coylter · Mar 19, 2005

Actually the 939 counterpart are faster due to dual channel.

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Rugger · Mar 20, 2005

You're telling me that a s939 3200+ (clocked at the stock 2Ghz) is faster than a s754 3200+ (clocked at the stock 2.2Ghz) because of DC memory?

The s754 has a 10% performance advantage from clock. Everything I've read/seen says that the DC gives around a 3-5% performance advantage over single channel. Where is the extra 6-8% performance coming from to make the s939 faster?

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