i am interested in buying a AMD processor
but i noticed they talk about process and they bring up
90nm vs. .13 micron whats the difference?
i`m assuming the smaller the chip surface the quicker the
current can flow? Hence the quicker the processor?

are you going to bark all day little doggie?
or are you going to bite?

90nm chips have a 45% smaller core size, require less power, run cooler, and overclock better.

Get the 90nm varient if at all possible.

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No, the fact that they're based on 90nm processes doesn't mean they're faster, it basically means they probably run a lot cooler.

However, these processors are probably faster than equivalently-clocked 130nm-process chips because there have been some changes. I'm not too sure about this, but I think 90nm chips (well, at least some of them) also support SSE3 extensions. And they're marginally faster because of slight enhancements to architecture.

So there you have it. But the single most striking difference and advantage is much reduced power consumption, which allows for much quieter systems.

Yup, that's it....

....I probably talked too much in my previous post.

You said it all.

lol, you're right about the SSE3 Extensions - but they are only in the latest Vencie core - and who knows when we will see those on the shelves!

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do they actually run faster though?


wow i`m confused
should i spend theextra for 90nm
or go for a faster clock?
a 90nm 3200 costs about the same as a .13 3500


are you going to bark all day little doggie?
or are you going to bite?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by arnold873 on 03/24/05 03:29 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

They will run at the same speed at the same rating. The 90nm isn't faster -<i> but you could make it easily....</i>

I'd get the 3200 if your going to o/c. You should be able to get to 2.5 Ghz

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i`m not really too crazy about OCing stuff
not that i`m not adventurous but with expensive pc stuff
i`m not adventerous.
thats not to say i wouldn`t let the MB manage the OCing
and if i understand it correctly the asus sli-deluxe mb will automatically do this up to a point.
would it be a good idea to get the fastest 90nm i could afford and let the mb OC it? or will i not gain too much from this?

are you going to bark all day little doggie?
or are you going to bite?

In other word of what Ned just said they have the potential to run faster than 0.13µm variant.
Hence the <b>NEED</b> for those 90nm to be OC'ed.

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From what I recall, an A64-3500 is 1% faster on 90 nanotech. A 3200 would be much slower, so @ the same price, take the 3500.
The current 90 nano Amd chips do not have SSE3 (not that it makes any difference). Most of the current A64s can handle the auto OC that the mobos offer.

Arnold, exactly how many questions do you need to ask before you get off your butt and build a system?

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All of them.

Twice.

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well just when i think i narrow the cpu down to and 64 3500+
then the issue of 90nm and .13micron
comes up
i guess i`m buying the case and psu prob next week or two
then i`m narrowing MB either sli or single pci-e
nforce4 sata
i think the asus sli deluxe
so by the time i get that board cpu prices will have fallen more. when i first started looking fx-55 was 1060 now its around 860. And so on. i will tell you though my last pc took like 1 day to order parts with research and it was very good. i think i might be taking my time because i`m afraid to buy right now. i feel something totally crazy is about to come out.

are you going to bark all day little doggie?
or are you going to bite?

Yeah... Dualcore and R520! R520 isnt untill June I believe

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