Intel gives AMD award for best CPU

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Wow, look at <i>that</i>: K8Man, registered April the 1st 2005... I guess you might just make P4Man obsolete...

...in a year, we might just be seeing "K-<b>nine</b>-the-dog" poster names...

I wonder what the next generation AMD core will have? I heard about DDR2-667 ODMC, maybe improved architecture, but nothing truly revolutionary...

I guess the one true revolution the whole market has yet to absorb completely is the Opteron introduction. I mean, all AMD did was design one new core, the A64 core, and sell it all over the place. Intel typically develops 3 different lineups - IPF, P4/desktop, Mobile - and still didn't quite manage to match A64's brilliance, simplicity and power. Talk about a waste of resources (by Intel) or an excellent design (by AMD)...

In any case, the workstation markets and server markets all recognize that to some extent. For instance, we're currently upgrading the computational resources available for research here at the physics institute I study at, and we're considering buying mainly Opterons, not Xeons, for a computing cluster. The cluster we're planning on deploying consists on some 30 dual-processor Opteron systems, 3 dual-processor storage servers with ~5TB disk space, and 3 quad-processor servers - one with 32GB memory and the other two with 8GB memory. At least one of the quad-processor systems will be dual-core-based (the one with 32GB), making that an 8-core, 32GB DDR400 system. Not bad for SMP, mind you. Could we get a comparable Xeon system for the same amount of money? No way... Not with eight cores.

Yeah, but the cost of the software licenses for most setups like that make the actual hardware cost look like a pittance.

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>Wow, look at that: K8Man, registered April the 1st 2005... I
>guess you might just make P4Man obsolete...

Obsolete, me ?  

>I wonder what the next generation AMD core will have? I
>heard about DDR2-667 ODMC, maybe improved architecture, but
>nothing truly revolutionary...

I heard conflicting stories. From what I understood the original K9, successor of K8 was radically different, among other things a speedracer design a la P4 instead of a moderate brainiac like K8, but K9 got cancelled, and now K10 is the successor, and like you said, will not be that much a radical a departure from K8. DDR2 seems like a safe bet, but I also expect significant changes to the FPU and SSEx units, and maybe more HT links. There are also rumours about a trace cache. Add to that some known new features like virtualization (Pacifica) and some LaGrande style "security".

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Sorry, it was just a joke :smile:

As for K9/K10, I also read the next generation socket is to have 1207 pins and will have ODMC for DDR2-667. It kind of makes me wonder, though, why they don't implement a full DDR2-800, because that's what is going to be available by 1H06... When the new chips debut.

As for Intel launches, they've been very disappointing... In the last 4 years, we've had two good years and what seems to be two bad ones:

<b>2002</b> 533Mhz FSB bump (with 2.26 and 2.53Ghz P4s)
<b>2003</b> 800Mhz FSB bump, P4Cs and i865 and i875 - this was great!
<b>2004</b> The prescott fiasco... :frown: i915, i925
<b>2005</b> The Smithfield launch... :frown: i945,i955

Smithfield isn't quite as ridiculous as prescott was, because, after all, it's a dual-core, low-cost solution that basically makes xeon rigs price-accessible, but it's nowhere near the great months after a lineup called "P4C" was introduced...

a.k.a Socket M2

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Not for nuthin, but that is just awesome. An Intel sponsored award to AMD. Love it.


AMD Athlon64 3500+
Asus A8N SLI-Deluxe
1 GIG Corsair Dual DDR
2 x 74 GB Raptor HDs
NVidia6800 Ultra PCI-e
Dual Layer DVD +/-RW
PC Power & Cooling 510W PSU

Well if DDR2 is worth something then, how bad could it be?

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Why RAMBUS over DDR2?

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And how?? Even Intel stopped supporting RAMBUS

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