I'm look into buying a complete new AMD64 system equipped with a Koolance EXOS-2 liquid cooling system for overclocking. I'm leaning towards buying a Winchester 3500+, but heard that the 90nm Venice core Athlon64s are probably going to be better at overclocking in addition to a few core enhancements. Does anyone know if the Venice cores will be available soon? Are there any articles out there on the Venice core yet?