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A64 3800 or OC'D mobile M?

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May 14, 2005 10:20:03 AM

Hullo,

It's upgrade time for my computer again but I've got questions since I haven't been paying attention to cpus' for ages:

I have an xp2600 at 175*12.5 with 1gb 3200 ram on A7N8X mobo with 9800XT.

Firstly is an upgrade to a faster CPU worth it. Will I see any real performance increase in my games? (I want to leave the GFX upgrade till later when I have more cash)

Next I want an A64 3800 but I was told that the mobile M chip is really overclockable and the performance is on par to the a64s. So what M chip would I want to get and what mobo?

Or ultimately am I just better off getting the 3800 without messing with overclocking cos my XP is suffering from heat exhaustion as it is :) 

If anyone has any links regarding overclocking the M chip and what can be expected from it it would be most appreciated particularly in regards to performance versus a64 chips.

Regards,

W

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May 14, 2005 5:17:02 PM

Ok, by mobile M, should I assume you mean an AXP-m or a Pentium M?

Anyways, there's no real reason to go with such a high end A64 since lower end ones will almost definitely overclock past 3800+ levels anyways thereby saving you some money and giving you that sense of accomplishment. :p 

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May 15, 2005 7:09:41 AM

The pentium M is a good overclocker, and its performance in games is on par with the athlon64. However I only know of desktop boards for the pentium M, one is 855 based and gives you AGP 4x, DDR333 and i dont think has SATA. The other uses a normall 865 chipset but has a socket478 to 479 adaptor card, i would def recommend this board over te 855 based one.

To be honest i think it would be best to go with the Athlon64, purly because the pentium M's are not cheap.
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May 15, 2005 12:23:25 PM

Don't think I'm gonna go with an overclock. Think I'll get me my A643800.

But important question. IS IT WORTH IT? Will I see a REAL increase in performance over what I have already?

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May 15, 2005 2:15:09 PM

That depends on whether your games are CPU bound of VPU bound. For example, if you play UT2003/2004 you'll definitely notice a difference. However if you play games like FarCry (is that right?) that's more VPU bound, then you probably won't notice. If gaming's what you do, you'd probably be better off upgrading the video card more than the CPU. But then you run into the problem of, you'd have to get an AGP card which forces you to go for an AGP based system if you upgrade the mobo/cpu in the future.

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May 15, 2005 6:58:26 PM

yeah I dunno anymore. I'm thinking of a 3800 and NEO2 mobo and now im considering a 6800gt which would bring my bill to just shy of 900 euro. Basically for that kinda money I'd want to see a definitive difference.

"Its only when you look at ants closely with a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames"
May 21, 2005 2:17:39 AM

With that 900 investment you are going to have a wide grin.
But even with the 9800xt difference compared to A-XP is noticeable.
A64 platform has much lower latency so it can use every drop of performance from VPU.
May 21, 2005 11:29:08 AM

If your current machine is fast enough for the games you play, you won't notice a damn thing even if you end up owning a 5 GHz dual core Athlon 64. Your current setup is not really a slouch, what is it you want to do that you can't ?



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May 22, 2005 1:00:01 AM

I disagree.. my AthlonXP @ 2.2ghz on a NF7-S with ram @ 400mhz dual channel is a bottleneck in alot of games (i have a 9800pro @ 420/350), and seriously chugs down easily when running everyday apps (like skype and msn and firefox at the same time..skypes a cpu hog, well at least on a non-multithreaded cpu)

i think he would get a nice boost from an A64 system, ANY A64 system/P4 system

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May 22, 2005 1:06:57 AM

hehe no its not retard, i can tell when my HDD is being accessed, im talking about after the apps are loaded and running and i have 200mb out of 768megs/ram used :p 

athlonxsp suck when multiple apps are running at more than a few % cpu useage each.

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May 22, 2005 1:40:33 AM

my rig is fine tuned by a profession, which is me! :lol: 

ps: sorry for calling you a retard, little wuzy-woo

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May 22, 2005 3:27:46 AM

*drools*

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May 22, 2005 4:36:07 AM

I am thinking that the 3800+ would come in handy later on with UE3... That looks like it will be both a cpu and a vpu game. Its all up to you man... If you have the doh, make the pizza!

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