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May 19, 2005 12:20:11 PM

Hello everyone,

First, sorry about this post being more general than specificly cpu-oriented.

Now, I’ve been lurking around for a couple of months while trying to put my new computer together. Now I don’t think Ill get any further without help, so if you have a couple of minutes, I’d greatly appreciate it! This post is somewhat long, but I’m slightly obsessive-compulsive, so please bear with me=)

This rig will be used for gaming so performance is my top priority. Second priority is keeping it somewhat silent. Not quiet, but silent. I might do some slight overclocking, but nothing drastic (I’m a coward, I know). My budget is somewhat flexible, but the total cost can’t be very much higher than it is based on the parts below. So far my system would look like this:

Chassi: Antec P160W (no PSU) http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81600...

PSU: Antec TruePower II 480W
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22480

Motherboard: Abit An8 Fatality Nforce4 Ultra
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/se/motherboard/motherboard...

CPU: A64 Venice 3500+ or
A64 Venice 3800+ or
A64 San Diego 3700+ or
(I doubt anyone needs reference charts for these…)

CPU cooling: Zalman 7000B ALCU
http://www.quietpc.com/uk/amdcooling.php#7000b

RAM: This confuses me. I’m currently thinking 2x512 Mb of Twinmos Speed premium BS5.
http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_sp_ddr400.htm

Graphics card: This also has me confused. I do want to go Nvidia and I’m thinking of either a 6800GT or a 6800Ultra, depending on the price when I order. However, I don’t know which brand to choose. I live in Sweden so I can’t buy Evga org BFG cards, I’m right now thinking Leadtek, Gainward or MSI, what do you think? Performance and silence (well, slightly less noise…) are issues here.

HDD: 1 Maxtor Dmax 10, 300 Gb, 16 Mb cache.
http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=MAXDM1...
and
1 WD Raptor, either 36 or 72 Gb?
http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?...

And some small things like DVD-burner, extra 120 mm case fan and so on.

/Walrus
Now, what do you think of this? Advice and opinions are much appreciated, I’ve never built a computer before…

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May 19, 2005 2:26:41 PM

Get that motherboard :
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2337&p=1" target="_new">DFI LanParty UT nF4 Ultra-D</A>

It's the BEST S939 mobo on the market. Very good performance, features. For the CPU I would surely get a Rev.E (ADA3x00DAA4BP).

If you don't plan to overclock, get good DDR400 ram with low timing (don't get DDR500+ rated RAM if you don't overclock, it's pretty much a waste of money), read memory reviews from Anantech : <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/memory/&lt;/A>. You will probably find a type of memory that is available in your country at a good price.

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May 19, 2005 5:11:56 PM

The 74GB Raptor is faster than the 36GB. Both of these drives will be louder than a 7200RPM HDD. It will be difficult to make a silent PC with one of these babies in the system. Take a look at some <A HREF="http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/scan/st=db/co=yes/r...*/fi=products/sf=category/op=eq/se=Case Insulation.html?id=EizbbBCu" target="_new">sound dampening material</A> for the case.

Look at the XP-90C with a medium rated, 92mm Panaflo for a really good and quiet HSF.

If you're looking at doing a little OCing, then you can go with a name brand Value series of RAM for a mild OC (~5-10%). Based on that recent Anand article <A HREF="http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168..." target="_new">OCZ Value VX Model OCZ4001024WV3DC-K</A> has the best OC potential and is really inexpensive. The DFI board previously listed and this RAM can really rock for high-end OCs if you get the urge to push it a little further.

Here is a guide on how to make a silent PC from <A HREF="http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-118-1.htm" target="_new">Hardcoreware</A>. Here is another <A HREF="http://www.buildsilentpc.com/" target="_new">guide</A>.

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May 20, 2005 6:37:50 AM

First: thanks guys!!

Now, let's see. I won't be getting the urge to push my OC-ing very far, I'm too much of a chicken for that=) My main reasons for choosing Abit mobo in the first place was, in order of importance: 1. There's said to be enough space between the Graphics card and the NB heatsink that these don't overheat and causes the system to be unstable. 2. There's said to be enough space around the cpu area to fit in the Zalman 7000B. 3. I got the impression that it might be a little more quiet than DFI or MSI. and 4: The uGuru software overclocking goes well with my "chickenness":-)

Are theses reasons wrong? I've never actually seen anyone of these mobo's so I'm just going on what reviewers have said=/

I will have to look into the RAM issue more seriously, i realise. I will do that now. And the 74 Gb raptor it is, the cpu is still a matter of availability and price for now.
May 20, 2005 2:50:33 PM

If you are going to throw a Raptor in there, I wouldn't worry too much about the sound of the mobo.
May 20, 2005 7:09:50 PM

If anything I'd say the Fatality is louder since it's got that gimmicky MOSFET fan.

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May 24, 2005 6:48:17 AM

Does having a good general airflow help muck in keeping the Mosfets cool? as far as I understand, the airflow in my future care should be pretty good, and I intend to do only a little bit of overclocking. And I know, I should, from a silent perspective, skip the Raptor. But it's so cool...=)
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