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K8MAN   05-30-2005 at 10:17:03 AM

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Seems intel quietly implemented the stupid copyright protection into their shipping i945 chipsets. Trying to take away our right to privacy. They wont see a dime of mine.

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jmwpom3   05-30-2005 at 01:06:11 PM
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Bill Gates = Big Brother?
You decide.

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Ned_Flanders   05-30-2005 at 02:46:11 PM
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Lol - Intel isn't Microsoft

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mozzartusm   05-30-2005 at 03:11:28 PM
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Do you really blame them for making this move? One of the reasons that prices are where they are"high" is because of the lost revenue. Same thing goes for insurance. All these lawsuits cost the corps money. This gets passed through to the consumer in the form of higher premiums.

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Xeon   05-30-2005 at 03:20:21 PM
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Copyright protection stupid?

-Jeremy Dach

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Ned_Flanders   05-30-2005 at 04:10:09 PM
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Teh L337 peoples will haxZor this anyway.

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mozzartusm   05-30-2005 at 04:15:12 PM
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I need a new sig

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russell   05-30-2005 at 06:42:01 PM
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Lawsuits, you want some lawsuits, just Wait. Intel may crash and burn just because of a combination of resistance to this new technology and the law suites that are bound to occur as a result of it's implementation.

I have a Intel system but if AMD resists this new type of window to the hackers of the world then they will get my business when I buy my next CPU.

<b> "active management technology"</b>

Quote :

"It's a dual use technology. It's got uses and misuses. Intel has to answer what guarantees it is prepared to give that home users are safe from hackers. Not maybes, guarantees".


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RichPLS   05-30-2005 at 06:51:17 PM
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I don't believe this will give guarantees.

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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mozzartusm   05-30-2005 at 07:08:42 PM
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:lol:

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lonelypauly   05-30-2005 at 07:17:59 PM
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How long after it's release will that mobo be H@xxOrD? My guess is approximately 1 week.

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mozzartusm   05-30-2005 at 07:33:41 PM
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Which one, the 955?


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russell   05-30-2005 at 08:11:35 PM
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Agree, Intel can't possibly guarantee against hacks using this new technology. At best all they can do is <b>TRY</b> to assure the consumer that it's safe.
The sad thing is, if it's sold by Dell,HP, and the others then the unknowing Office Depot customer will buy it and think they are getting something really special.

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RichPLS   05-30-2005 at 08:24:11 PM
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Well, those customers are generally considered special, tech wise :)

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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RichPLS   05-31-2005 at 04:05:13 AM
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Hippie is a good thing. You seem to use it as derogotory. I would rather be a hippy than a dickhead!
What has a hippie done to you? Or do you just not tolerate different lifestyles, and philosophies. I suppose there are some bad ones in the bunch, but generally it is a peacefull live and let live attitude.

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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Xeon   05-31-2005 at 03:06:36 PM
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I try not to pirate if I can.

-Jeremy Dach

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 05:16:30 AM
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Quote :

But it's like so easy to pirate and trust me the FBI ain't gonna knock up to your door if you do


You can only be comfortable thinking this if dont live here or you dont really understand how the Gov operates. I could write a book on this subject.

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RichPLS   06-01-2005 at 05:18:32 AM
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And he is taking names...got it :)

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 05:21:59 AM
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Me?

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RichPLS   06-01-2005 at 05:24:25 AM
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I'm not talking [whistles]

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 05:32:32 AM
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LOL, if anything it would be the other way around,

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 05:34:20 AM
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This isnt the Gov but it is an example of how serious its becoming. <A HREF="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=8658375" target="_new">http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=8658375</A>

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RichPLS   06-01-2005 at 05:37:03 AM
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It is easy to see the benifits of having Big Brother watching you, but much harder to see the negatives.
Times have changed, and there is no going back...

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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RichPLS   06-01-2005 at 05:38:19 AM
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<A HREF="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Nate_Surveyor/GERMANPOPE.jpg" target="_new"> If the new Pope was German </A>

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 06:15:53 AM
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Benefits? What benefits? I dont want Big Brother watching me.

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 06:16:37 AM
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That link is funny!

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Clob   06-01-2005 at 06:29:43 AM
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All the more reason to buy AMD... What Intel is doing is pointless anyhow...

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 06:39:11 AM
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What the hell are talking about?

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mozzartusm   06-01-2005 at 06:41:20 AM
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Quote :

What Intel is doing is pointless anyhow...


What are they doing? Being more specific would be less confusing.


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Xeon   06-01-2005 at 03:19:03 PM
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All the more reason to buy AMD... What Intel is doing is pointless anyhow...


Pointless to secure the user base? Whether or not this technology will work has yet to be seen. But you are judging it as a failure before it has been seen on working silicon.

The better question is why the prejudice to security technologies, it will most likely be like LaGrande, on/off switch in the BIOS.

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endyen   06-02-2005 at 05:56:34 AM
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Mostly it's pointless because Canadian copyrite infringement laws are different from American, are different from German, are different from Japanese...
It's fine to protect the rights of copyrite holders, just not at the expense of others. Try doing that, and you will be in court pdq.

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Xeon   06-02-2005 at 03:02:29 PM
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I still don't see your logic different laws means different implementations, as well what expence to others?

-Jeremy Dach

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endyen   06-03-2005 at 02:32:10 AM
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An example. My brother lives in Toronto. He has access to cheep music. I live in Vancouver, and have access to cheep software. We bothe have websites so we can upload items bought for each other. He buys my music, then I download it, and burn it. I buy him software, and he does the same.
In Canada, that is legal. In the U.S. it isn't. With Intel's copyrite protection, it wont work. My rights are being abrogated.

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Xeon   06-03-2005 at 03:11:24 PM
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Regional settings would have to be employed.

-Jeremy Dach

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HansGruber   06-04-2005 at 11:34:33 AM
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Regional settings would have to be employed.


Installing Windows: "Choose your local time and region" [x] Vancouver Canada.

;)

But Intel now says that there is no DRM crap in it.. <A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23708" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23708</A>

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sonoran   06-05-2005 at 12:12:25 AM
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And when the (inevitable) DRM logic is added, the conspiracy theorists may want to refer to this before going off the deep end: <A HREF="http://www.intel.com/technology/security/downloads/LT_policy_statement_0_8.pdf" target="_new">http://www.intel.com/technology/security/downloads/LT_policy_statement_0_8.pdf</A>

In a nutshell, it clearly states that any DRM technology must be "opt-in", and that opting in (or out) must be the user's choice.

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Xeon   06-05-2005 at 05:48:06 PM
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Are you proud of your theif status? I don't understand you have no respect for software companies why not run linux?

-Jeremy Dach

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RichPLS   06-05-2005 at 06:17:09 PM
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Not defending wusy, well maybe, but not ... n/m
Thief status has nothing to do with it, it is control. Big companies want to gain more control to get bigger and have more control. If you submit with out even a wimper, soon, you will be back to paying per minute to use your o/s, and have to have a full time interenet connection with credit card on file to boot system. They will push you till they win or limits are set.
To me it is about a monopoly, not theivery. Look at the bank accounts of the companies pushing this tech, and look at the bank account of the software pirate, avast matey, bow before me afore I lop your ear off!

<pre><font color=red>°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°`°¤o \\// o¤°`°¤o,¸¸¸,o¤°
And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>

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HansGruber   06-05-2005 at 06:18:09 PM
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Are you proud of your theif status? I don't understand you have no respect for software companies why not run linux?


WTF ?!?
Linux has nothing to do with warez, and it also deserves respect more than any other OS !

Also online piracy is not a theft, it is a gift to software companies.
Or how the hell people learn to use 2000€ professional software during 30day trial ?
Or would people even know that your crappy software excists ?

Music ? WHAT MUSIC !? They haven't released any music after 90's !

Movies ? I wouldn't go to theater without being aware of the films, and im aware becouse of torrentsites..
I would go more often, but i really, really hate to watch 15 minutes of ads before the movie.

Game piracy is another matter, it is homeuser app, but even that is NOT stealing.

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Cybercraig   06-06-2005 at 05:10:19 AM
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You have to make exceptions for the less fortunate. When Wusy leaves for work in the morning he has to take the engine off of the lawn mower and put it back on his go-kart then pull the rope. If it rains he is soaking wet. Give him a break!


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Cybercraig   06-06-2005 at 05:50:02 AM
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I don't have a problem with you biking. I did hear though that you tried to put a milk shake on lay-a-way at the ice cream Shoppe. Tacky, tacky! :lol:


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