AMD best price/performance!!

[Starfishy]

Some of you may have seen this post elsewhere already... but I am writing it again so that more people will see it. It was hidden deep in an older thread and wasn't going to get very much exposure.

I like that second linky better. Its a good one, and gives a few different performance ratings based on different games, it gives some pretty good data.

Now lets hear what people have to say based on the price comparison. What do we think is the price/performance winner.

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103544" target="_new">X2 4800+ = $1065.00</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103527" target="_new">FX-55 = $819.00</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547" target="_new">X2 4200+ = $585.00</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529" target="_new">A64 4000+ = $481.99</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531" target="_new">A64 3800+ = $369.00</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533" target="_new">A64 3500+ = $267.00</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535" target="_new">A64 3200+ = $190.00</A>

I realize that I could have included more, but these are the ones I chose.

I also realize that not every chip on this list was reviewed in <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410&p=7" target="_new">this review by Anandtech</A>, but it gives you a good idea where all of them would sit.

If you feel that there is a better review or other reviews that will add to this one please post it here.

 

[Starfishy]

Wow, this was clearly a very popular thread. I am just shocked at the interest in this subject. I really didn't expect to beat Ned's supper thread with this one, but it looks like just a few more posts and I will have made THGC history.

Seriously, I am shocked that nobody cares :frown: .

 

[Ned_Flanders]

£/Performace at stock, or with overclocking taken into account?
Anyway, it depends on the person - a single core will have a much better ratio for someone who doesn't need the multitasking of the X2 cores.

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Ned_Flanders on 06/24/05 04:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[P4Man]

If you want to make this usefull, I invite everyone to update <A HREF="http://users.pandora.be/compas/PP.xls" target="_new"> this spreadsheet </A> I made some years ago with recent pricing information and recent benchmarks. It does require some good knowledge of Excel though.




= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by P4Man on 06/24/05 11:13 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Starfishy]

I wish I had the kind of time to update that. I wasn't really looking for a quantitative readout on the P/P. I was just hoping that some people would throw some opinions out there and then we could have another debate about whether dual was better than single.

 

[jmwpom3]

I would really see no point to paying that much more for the fx over the 4200 X2. That would be my pick in that list.
While for a single app the FX might push out a few more FPS, your still paying a sharp premium for last year's technology. And, I doubt the benefit you'd get for a single game running on the FX would even be noticeable to anything other than a benchmark program.

Go for the 4200 and put the extra $234 into your video card(s) + memory.
Then, your looking at another $580 on top of the 4200 for the extra, what .2 GHz on the 4800? Why bother really? Except maybe just bragging rights.

Just my opinion.

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[TheArchon]

I'd say 3000+ Venice core. where I live it cost 80$ LESS then 3200+

 

[dunklegend]

He's not really looking for opinions on what to buy, but on opinions on the price performance so a sticky can be made for the people that's looking to buy an AMD CPU. Specially the newbies.

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[Ned_Flanders]

There will be no sticky say I.

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[dunklegend]

But why Mr. President?

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[Starfishy]

I wasn't acually looking for a sticky, but it wouldn't be a bad idea at some point for some of us to create a "Gaming Rig" sticky at some point. We get an awefull lot of people in here looking for recomendations on what to build, and even you can admit that we end up saying the same thing over and over again alot.

 

[dunklegend]

Yeah but it increases your post count.
But the sticky is definitely a good idea.

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[Starfishy]

I don't really care about my post count. If you do care about your post count just go down to the "other" forum and write a thread without a title, and just reply over and over and over... some of the "old" guys in the forum do it, so they should be willing to put up with anyone doing it as well. It's not hard to rack up 200 posts a day doing this.

 

[danizaken]

I think the 3500+

 

[dunklegend]

I haven't spammed (I think). Whenever I post is either asking something, commenting, answering a question, or having fun. If somebody has a title just because he spams a lot, then that title doesn't mean anything.

By the way click on the link in my sig, and tell me what do you think. It will help the newbies but also everybody else, because you won't have to google for the links.
Also if you have useful free sofware, please post it with the link so I can add it to that post.

Thanks in advance.

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[Starfishy]

dunklegend that free software thread is great. The only way to make it better would show some kind of rating or prefference or descriptions of the products.

 

[dunklegend]

I've thought of descriptions but It would make the list very big. And I plan to add anything worthy, so I like to keep it simple, but if you have an idea to make it better without increasing the size considerably please let me know.

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[Starfishy]

Maybe you could develop a star system... like with hotels. If you have used the product and think it is excellent than you could give it 5 stars, great but not excellent then 4 stars, good but not great gets 3 stars... etc...

Its just that if we don't have any kind of preference then people will just look at this list and think... "which one should I choose?"

 

[Starfishy]

I think that Firefox would be a good example of a 5 star product, there aren't alot of good alternatives to it out there. But something like Avast is also very good, it might get a 5 star, but I haven't really used the others you have listed, so I don't know how it stacks up to those.

 

[dunklegend]

The star system is good, but since I haven't used all the programs, then when I ask for opinions there are going to be fanboys of one product or another (I'm a firefox fanboy myself) and the list will be better if it's unbiased.
I agree with Firefox and Avast being 5 stars and probably zone alarm too, but everyone's system is different and some applications could cause conflicts in one machine and run perfectly in another.

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[Starfishy]

Yeah, I see your point, but even if your opinion is biased you could state that at the top. It will just give people a frame of reference.

 

[fishmahn]

Just a thought - as sort of a compromise, put a 1 or 2 line blurb at the top of each section. You can mention its a good idea to get 2 of this category because no one program covers all of it, and things like that.

Besides, I thought this was a list of good free software in the first place, so the crap has already been deleted.

Mike.

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[Huh]

I wasn't acually looking for a sticky, but it wouldn't be a bad idea at some point for some of us to create a "Gaming Rig" sticky at some point.

There are quite a few sites that list gaming rigs based on your budget. They have an Intel version and an AMD version. Wouldn't it make more sense to link to these sites instead of reinventing the wheel?

I know linking of other sites drives traffic to those sites and probably is frowned upon by THGC. I visit several sites to get a general consensus on whats good and whats crap. One more site that has the same thing is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Starfishy]

Linking other sites is not frowned upon by THGC, in fact if anything it adds to the forums. It allows the forum to reach out to all areas, and reference material quickly, and really adds to the worth of our forum.

That said, gimme a linky to some of those sites. I wanna see what they suggest for different budgets.

 

[Huh]

A couple of links. Enjoy

<A HREF="http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200506.ars" target="_new">ArsTechnica's Buyer guides</A>

<A HREF="http://anandtech.com/guides/" target="_new">AnandTech's Buyer guides</A>

<A HREF="http://sharkyextreme.com/guides/index.php" target="_new">Sharky Extreme's Buyer guides (various rigs are buried in that list)</A>

<A HREF="http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=Nzg1" target="_new">[H]ardOCP's Buyer guide</A>

<A HREF="http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61554" target="_new">Xtreme Systems forum post on AMD & Intel rigs</A>

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