Gaming PC advise please

anferny · Jul 5, 2005

Okay, I feel so akward doing this, but oh well...I'm looking for some good suggestions on a gaming PC. I don't know what card to get, an ATI or Nvidia. I don't know ATI's at all so that's an area where I'm in need of help. By gaming i mean Ultra high settings with AA/AF on like Half LIfe 2. Nothing as demanding as Doom 3 or Farcry. Also a mobo. Here's my list so far. (I'm keeping my monitor)

Case- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811171047
RAM- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145440
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103486 I'm thinking about getting a faster processor as well.
Video Card 1- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150068
Video Card 2- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150080
Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813130457 The mobo sucks from what I hear.

(All links to www.newegg.com)

Oh ya, I appreciateall the help.

K8MAN · Jul 5, 2005

u dont sound too sure about what u want so just pick up a cheap A64 setup and any vid card with 16 piplines or more and u'll be flying high in the frames. I was @ bestbuy today and they have the x800xl for 399cdn and the x850xt for 499 so that might be worth looking into.

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endyen · Jul 5, 2005

Let's see:
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811171047" target="_new">case</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145440" target="_new">ram</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103486" target="_new">cpu</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150068" target="_new">vid</A> or <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814150080" target="_new">vid2</A>
and <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813130457" target="_new">mob</A> that sucks

Crashman · Jul 5, 2005

What a shitty case! Look at the grills behind the exhaust fans, no flow!

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Crashman · Jul 5, 2005

I don't think the board is that bad, not nearly as bad as the case!

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endyen · Jul 5, 2005

I was actually just following his lead

Mobo- http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813130457 The mobo sucks from what I hear.

but then again, I'm not all that fond of Msi. I still prefer the abit <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127190" target="_new">board</A> or one of the Asus K8N boards.

Guest · Jul 5, 2005

THats not too bad, listen to the other advices, I'd try to get the money for a X800xl or a 6800gt. Thats will be really helpfull in games.
Listen to anything crash says

, seriously that case is cute but it looks cheap.Hceap case come with cheap PSU and thats the best way to have instability!

Ram is ok for the price I guess.

Cpu dont get anything higher specially for games it wont help nearly as much as a faster vid card.

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dunklegend · Jul 5, 2005

anferny:
Why going with socket 754?
If you get socket 939 you have the option of upgrading to a double core CPU in the future, and AGP cards will begin to phase out.
With socket 939 you can get a PCIe video card, that's gonna be a little bit more expensive than the AGP but overall if you don't have a great AGP card that you want to keep I think socket 939 is the better choice.

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Starfishy · Jul 5, 2005

There is no question that the s754 is the cheaper way to go. But drunky is right... you will lose a lot of upgradability. If you are building a rig from scratch (like it looks like you are) I like going with the s939. If you see yourself not upgrading this system at all for a few years and then buying a whole new system (some people do this) then it might be good to save a little money and go with the s754. You will be able to save some money on an AGP card which will run just as fast as the PCI-e card.

anferny · Jul 5, 2005

what do you people suggest? I wanna spend like $800-$900.

dunklegend · Jul 5, 2005

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236" target="_new">Mobo $109.99</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537" target="_new">CPU $146</A>
RAM the one you picked is fine as long as you don't OC so $79
This is $334.99 pick a good case and spend the rest on the video card.

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anferny · Jul 5, 2005

Thanks dunklegend, One question what's wrong with the other case? The airflow or something?

Guest · Jul 5, 2005

Well for one I just looks cheap.
And what Crashman mentionned is bad airflow. Look at the picture that you see the back of the case. Look how small the whole ro exhaust aire from he fans are. Thats will seriously reduce airflow and thats really important to keep your hardware cool!
Look a this case to see the difference(Click on the case too see more picture and loook at the back)
<A HREF="http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=61088#" target="_new">Click</A>
This case is probably too expansive for your needs but you will see the difference!

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dunklegend · Jul 5, 2005

Pick the one you want, it's up to you but it's nice to get one with good airflow, removable mobo tray, rails for the HDs and optical drives.

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811156148" target="_new">This </A> is my case, it's not a Lian Li but it has a removable tray, 6 fans, 2 USB ports firewire and audio on the top, thumbscrews and rails for 5 hard drives, and several optical drives.

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Starfishy · Jul 5, 2005

You are not getting a beast of a rig that will produce huge amounts of heat. Buy a case that looks the best to you and has the best price. Be practical. Air flow is not going to matter on this system, it will not produce enough heat to warrant a gaming case. <A HREF="http://www.anitec.ca/?mode=product_detail&pid=1005&mcid=13" target="_new">Here</A> is a case that I have built in for many clients some with beefier rigs than what you are buying (girls really like this case cause it has lots of lights). It works great and has more than enough air flow... as well, this one comes with a PSU that I have also used to build many rigs with (its a bargain for the price IMO).

dunklegend · Jul 5, 2005

The case I linked to has a good PSU. 420W Raidmax. I say it's good because I had no problems with it and I used it about a year before buyin my 500W Fortron bluestorm.

See if you can get that Raidmax case in Canada and give it a try it has lots of room and 6 fans, so if you build a Prescott rig it can help.

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Starfishy · Jul 5, 2005

If I build a Prescott rig, I am going to use it as a space heater

P.S. Just kidding I'm not that much of an AMD fanboy... and I know that the Intel heat issue has been solved to a certain degree... I just couldn't resist.

Starfishy · Jul 5, 2005

Drunky are you running an Intel right now?

dunklegend · Jul 6, 2005

No. But I could. With all these fans my case looks like a rockstar.

Raidmax Case W/Fortron Blue Storm 500W PSU
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra (A64 3000+)
Corsair (2 x 512MB)DDR
eVGA Geforce 6600 256MB PCIe
WD 80GB + WD 200GB + Maxtor 200GB + WD 250GB
NEC DL DVD Burner BENQ DL LIGHTSCRIBE DVD Burner

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Starfishy · Jul 6, 2005

Do you have any kind of RAID setup on the HDDs

Starfishy · Jul 6, 2005

Have you used the LightScribe yet? Do you like it if you have? How is the quality of the image? Is the software user friendly, or at least any good at all?

dunklegend · Jul 6, 2005

No RAID, the 80GB HD is partitioned about 40 for the system and the other 690GB for storage.

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Starfishy · Jul 6, 2005

Why no RAID?

dunklegend · Jul 6, 2005

I burned a label with high quality, It was a rap mp3 cd I put the names for every artist with different fonts just to see which fonts were blurry, all of them looked great. The label also had a picture of 2 Pac and it looks like a black & white photograph, great quality.

The cds are golden and everything you burn in them is shown in a grayscale.

I have the NEC as my primary burner but I was gonna get a DVD so I could burn on the fly without having to save in the HD, and my wife told me that since the price difference wasn't much I should get another burner.
I wanted to try the lightscribe one so I bought it and I'm pretty happy with it. I've shown the cd to my friends and they were impressed with the quality of the label and the fact that it was burnt on the CD instead of printed.

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dunklegend · Jul 6, 2005

I don't care for the speed or the reliability, I care more for the storage space. I have too much stuff. Do you have something good you can share, I still have a few free GBs.
:evil:

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