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July 16, 2005 9:30:10 PM

My Athlon 64 3500+ was overheating, so I decided to switch thermal compounds. So, I go to remove the heatsink, but it was really tough. What ended up happening is that as the heatsink was removed, it took the CPU with it (the lever on the ZIF socket stayed closed). I thought, d'oh to myself, but everything appeared ok. I put new compound on the CPU, put the chip back, heatsink on, and booted up.

Nothing happened. Well, all the fans turned on, but no video came up.

I took the processor back out, and noticed that a pin had been bent all the way, making contact with the base of another pin. Aww damnit. I was able to straighten the pin, and it went back into the socket easily. I booted up, and again, the fans turned on but no video. Same as before.

So, I figured the chip got fried. So, I went and bought a new one. Put it in to the motherboard and booted up. Same thing, fans but no video. So, I figured it was the motherboard that took a crap because of the bent pin. The motherboard is an MSI K8N Neo 2 nForce 3 board.

I went and bought a new motherboard, this time an ABit AV8 Via KT800 board (was the only 939 board at the store I went to). I put the whole system together, and turned it on. Same thing, fans turn on, but no video, but the motherboard goes into a reboot loop.

So, I thought, could my video card, a eVGA GeForce 6800, could have gone bad? I tried a new video card. No difference.

I took some RAM out of another computer and tried it. Again, no difference.

I tried without plugging in the HD, DVD, or floppy. Again, no difference.

I tried a different power supply. Again, no difference.

I've built probably 20 systems in my life. Never has this kind of thing happened to me. I'm totally stumped. Any toughts?

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July 16, 2005 9:50:12 PM

Try building outside the case? Do you have any other RAM to stick in there?

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July 16, 2005 11:01:53 PM

MONITOR IS TEH SUXOR!!!!!1111onetwothree

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July 16, 2005 11:40:07 PM

The monitor works fine.

I tested the original CPU and the replacement one I bought both in another computer, and they both work fine in that other motherboard. So, it might just be possible that my original motherboard is bad AND the new one I bought.

Time to go return all this crap and get a different motherboard.

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July 17, 2005 1:58:12 AM

PSU?
July 17, 2005 6:29:40 AM

Did you test the power button?
July 17, 2005 9:25:29 AM

Id say socket got damaged when it was ripped out?
try using another mobo.
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July 17, 2005 1:47:22 PM

Gotta love MSI...

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July 17, 2005 1:51:43 PM

Did you read his Post?

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July 17, 2005 1:52:21 PM

Did you read his Post?

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July 17, 2005 2:13:10 PM

But what the poster says doesn't mean anything. He's probably lying anyways...It's TRICKERY I tell ya'!

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July 17, 2005 2:14:56 PM

...but KSoth would never lie :frown:

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July 17, 2005 4:41:37 PM

Yah the motherboard that the chips dont work in, has a broken socket.
July 17, 2005 7:45:28 PM

He bought a new mobo and chip and still the same problem.

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July 18, 2005 12:38:48 AM

Update.

PSU was bad, and it was torching motherboards. I don't know if the bent CPU pin could result in destroying a PSU, but I guess it's possible. I bought a new PSU, but it does not fit my case (case requires special PSU), so my nice Antec Overture is going unused for now.

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July 19, 2005 10:15:47 AM

Quote:
I bought a new PSU, but it does not fit my case (case requires special PSU)

I recently had that problem. It's nothing that 5 minutes with a pair of pliers couldn't fix... pretty? no, but functional.. :evil: 

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July 19, 2005 12:31:56 PM

Buy a new case. compusa has cases for like $25
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July 19, 2005 1:06:19 PM

lol that is y i got a case that is cheap and standard, nothing fancy.
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July 19, 2005 1:14:30 PM

You usually get what you pay for...
If COMPUSA is selling for $25, then how much did it cost them? How many cuts from metal? How good is the airflow? How good is the construction?....

If it has a PSU, then how much did it cost and how good do you think it will perform?

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July 19, 2005 1:24:03 PM

lol no PSU and i think its got some good air flow cuz i'm runnign open case... although ppl r saying i should go closed cuz i got a dog running around (not peeing on case....) and i currently got a no name 300W PSU lol (but hey its a PIII and i'm about to go A64.....) then i'm gona get a Enermax NoiseTaker EG495P-VE SFMA - 485W ATX12V v.2.01 Adjustable Dual-Fan and a Arctic Cooling 80mm Arctic Fan 3 w/Thermal Sensor to get the case air flow circulation, if this isn;t enough i drill holes on the siade pannels :p 

(there are some small ones in them already but......

BTW since my new PSU will be dual faned do i need to open a sunroof for it on my case with a hammer? or is it below the whole thing?? or is there enough room above it for air flow??? (about an inch or so....)<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheHolyLancer on 07/19/05 09:26 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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July 19, 2005 1:38:44 PM

When you get it installed take a look at the intake/exhaust directions and let us know. If there is a blockage, then you may need to open something up...

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July 19, 2005 4:56:23 PM

It doesnt have a PSU but he can use his.
<A HREF="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?produc..." target="_new"> here </A>
You can puta 92mm can in the back and a fan in the front and theres vents in the front for air to get in the front. There is also 2 front usb. No cuts from metal. I could sit on it and I weigh 150ibs. the side panels are easy to take off becuase they gave those thumb screws.
Right now I am running a 1.8 duron w/512mb ram and Geforce 4 mx440. It gets to about 45*C on full load and I used an $9 cooler I bought on new egg.
July 19, 2005 6:38:22 PM

Not even pliers can make the PSU fit. The problem is that the PSU for the case has all the connections on one side of it, the cord that gives power to the PSU, and all the power cables for the computer. A standard PSU has the connectors on opposing sides. If the new PSU is put in one way, all the component power cables become to short to reach anything. If I try to put it in the other way, the PSU's power on/off switch gets in the way, and the power cord would be in an unreachable position to where I would have to have the cable sticking out of the side of the case through a vent area, which is really messy looking and prevents the filter from keeping dust out of the case.

I will probably end up ordering a replacement PSU and use that case to build another system. Oh well.

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July 19, 2005 8:12:10 PM

gee just run it open case and have the PSU on a small table or better yet a box lol... you need to get it at a right height so all the wires fit an all though (if space is not a problem...)
July 19, 2005 8:55:52 PM

what brand case do you have? It must be and hp or sony or something right?
July 19, 2005 11:53:01 PM

It's an Antec Overture desktop case. That is why I can't run it open, because the monitor needs to sit on it, and there isn't enough room on my desk to set it to the side. It's a really slick looking case too... Oh well.

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July 20, 2005 6:36:34 AM

That is a funky case. PSU looks propreitary. Id buy a new case so that new PSU you have can go in it.
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