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Ned_Flanders   07-21-2005 at 09:26:29 PM

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<A HREF="http://overclockers.com/tips00810/" target="_new">Overclockers.com take on this</A>



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Starfishy   07-21-2005 at 09:34:17 PM
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This looks promising.

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Clob   07-21-2005 at 09:41:06 PM
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WOW! I can't wait to see this!

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P4Man   07-21-2005 at 10:07:15 PM
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Why ? I dont see the huge benefit for desktops.. cheaper to produce perhaps, but otherwise ?.. for laptops, potentially slightly lower power and maybe a bit more compact. But performance wise its not like the current HT bridge is lacking in speed, I wouldnt hold my breath. For servers this would be nice though, especially 4 sockets since it will be freeing up an HT link and provide more I/O than you could ever wish for.

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apesoccer   07-21-2005 at 10:43:31 PM
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Yea...I sat there a minute scratching my head when i first looked at this too. Sounds like they're trying to integrate everything on/in to the cpu. Memory was huge...now what will be the biggest upcoming usable expansion area for general usage (pci-e). Next...Sata? Sound? USB? Chipset companies have gotta be getting antsy.

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Ned_Flanders   07-21-2005 at 11:15:35 PM
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Lower latencies?

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P4Man   07-22-2005 at 12:24:48 AM
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>Lower latencies?

Lower latency of what ? CPU->Videocard is really not latency bound, its streaming, not random read/writes. Its even 99.9% unidirectional, so you need bandwith, and PCI-E has ample bandwith as it is. Now if you attach multiple Gb NICs or some very high end storage you might see an improvement, but for desktops, I sincerely doubt it. HT is overkill already.

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P4Man   07-22-2005 at 12:29:41 AM
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>Sounds like they're trying to integrate everything on/in to
>the cpu. Memory was huge...now what will be the biggest
>upcoming usable expansion area for general usage (pci-e).
>Next...Sata? Sound? USB?

All of that has been done: MediaGX and even current Geodes I think. But the benefit there is cost, size, maybe power but certainly not performance. And cost/size really seems neglectable for the mainstream desktop market. For ultra low end devices (and/or embedded) it would make sense though, but since when did we get excited by that :)

>Chipset companies have gotta be getting antsy.

Thats what I was thinking as well... with PCI-E *and* MC integrated, that pretty much only leaves southbridge stuff for the chipset vendors to differentiate themselves with.




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liquidpaper007   07-22-2005 at 01:10:11 AM
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They might as well intergrate every thing in the cpu. Thenn they can make smaller mobos :)hehe

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Crashman   07-22-2005 at 09:51:46 AM
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With the possible downside that it might lock us into some perceived maximum number of lanes...

Most chipset manufacturers support 20 lanes, ULi supports 40 but requires two northbridges for that...nVidia allows you to expand, but only with the "Pro" versions.

Now if AMD supported 40 lanes from the outset, w00t!

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Crashman   07-22-2005 at 09:52:58 AM
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And again someone mentions the MediaGX...

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Ned_Flanders   07-22-2005 at 12:58:19 PM
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<A HREF="http://overclockers.com/tips00810/" target="_new">Overclockers.com take on this</A>

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Clob   07-22-2005 at 06:05:22 PM
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Sounds a bit biased? Its not out yet and there knocking it hard... YIKES!

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Starfishy   07-22-2005 at 07:19:35 PM
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Yeah... I agree... total speculation... absolute bogus article...

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BePe86   07-22-2005 at 09:04:31 PM
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Well, what can you say? It's Ed [-peep-] Stroglio's favoutire hobby, prediciting armageddon for AMD... everything they do, right or wrong, is wrong in his eyes. I have yet to see one positive column from him.

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Xeon   07-23-2005 at 01:23:38 AM
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He does have a point though from a business view they are a joke.

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