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Will I notice AlthonXP 2800+ upgraded to 3200+

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hombrewdude   08-07-2005 at 06:15:27 AM

Think it is worth the $ to go from my existing

Athlon XP Barton 2800+ 333Mhz BUS 512k to

Athlon XP Barton 3200+ 400Mhz BUS 512k

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Nights_L   08-07-2005 at 06:34:17 AM
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I would say not worth it..

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theholylancer   08-07-2005 at 06:37:24 AM
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i think we would need the system specs to know as that if the rest of your system is crap, it will not help, if the rest of your system is good and your cpu is a bottleneck, then yes

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hombrewdude   08-07-2005 at 06:43:49 AM
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I had some harddrive failures.. so I have some new ones on order, I am replacing my current SCSI RAID

I bought 2 raptors and 1 Maxline III
new PCI SATA II Card for the harddrives

I have 1 gig of RAM.

I was wondering if a CPU upgrade or more RAM would help my system.

It really lags behind when I set photoshop actions on 100 or so files. The files are around 50meg each.
Photoshop opens each file, runs the action then saves it.
After 50-60 files, the PC SLOWSSS way down.

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theholylancer   08-07-2005 at 06:58:19 AM
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well i'd say yes as photo ship is very cpu intsive (someone correwct me if i'm wrong, i just heard this some where)

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endyen   08-07-2005 at 08:03:43 AM
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After 50-60 files, the PC SLOWSSS way down.


I would guess that is when you start using the page file. More ram would do more than going to a 3200.
If this rig is only used for photoshop, you should look at getting a northwood core, P4c. You could pick up an IS7 board, and say a 3ghz chip, for not much more than the sata card, and the 3200. You would still need another gig of ram though.
If you play games as well, get an epox s939 board, and a venice core 3000. Then you would be ready to just plunk something like an X2 3800 in, when you have the $.

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addiarmadar   08-09-2005 at 07:02:16 PM
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Not at all, unless you are getting a better AGP that would benefit you by having extra mhz to prevent bottlenecking.

<i><font color=red>Only an overclocker can make a computer into a convectional oven.</i></font color=red>

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Schmide   08-09-2005 at 07:36:09 PM
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Sounds like a programming error to me. I would guess that some memory or file is not getting closed properly. I would check your scripts and look for any cleanup you can do after your processing.

No processing power in the world can prevent the slowdown of a memory leak.

PS AGP will never be the bottleneck, as to display one 1600x1200 2d image takes at most 8mb and AGP 8x has a throughput of 2.1GB/s.

Dichromatic for your viewing plesure...

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HansGruber   08-09-2005 at 08:08:40 PM
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Go to BIOS and set system bus from 333Mhz to 400Mhz and then you have 3200 Barton.
Just make sure you have good CPU and case cooling.

:smile:

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

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fishmahn   08-09-2005 at 08:18:23 PM
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Haha, he'll have a 3600+ barton... that 2800 starts with a 13 multiplier (I think), so its running at nearly 2.2ghz in the first place - bumping the fsb to 200 will make it run around 2.6ghz. Not many Athlon XPs can do that on stock cooling/voltage.

Original Poster - you'll see some performance improvement, but not much because the actual CPU speed isn't much higher in the 3200 than your 2800. I'd see if I could tweak the fsb on your system (in the bios) to 170 or 175. If its stable, (I'm estimating) that will give you about the same performance boost as getting a 3200+.

Mike.

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-- Groucho Marx</font color=blue>

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HansGruber   08-09-2005 at 08:21:42 PM
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So he better have really good cooling then :lol:

ps. no point in upgrading, bus speed wont affect that much.

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- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

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hombrewdude   08-10-2005 at 02:34:58 AM
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I have a gigabyte motherboard with their easy tune utility.
It is currently showing 166mhz on the bus with 12.5 nultiplier
Which is 2086.72
The voltage is 1.676 for the CPU

My ram is set to 400mhz

I bought an upgrade on the cooling, thermaltake type heat pipe cooler with fan.

If I try to increase the system bus should I also increase the CPU voltage?

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fishmahn   08-10-2005 at 04:22:44 PM
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Only increase voltage to clear up stability problems. Your CPU may run at those levels with stock voltage. My AthlonXP (its only a 2600 though) runs at a 191fsb without a voltage increase (which is good because the cheap mobo I have doesn't have that option), so yours may do 175 without one.

Go to the overclocking CPU forum and read the XP overclocking guide. It covers all the basics. Just remember to go slow - a few mhz and test for a couple hours to ensure stability, then a few more mhz.

Mike.

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