HUO Shadow: Is this a Booming pinball market?

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HUO STTNG

$2199 and no bids

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Trek-Next [...] dZViewItem

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Here is what the original 3 postings look like (below).

You know!!!!... Before the routine of message erasing.

Sincerely,

Your rgp pal and 4 year old, Mark Salas



HUO Shadow


Probably cost $3300 brand new plus shipping


With inflation that $3300 would be $4500 today


Auction is finished by the way ....


http://cgi.ebay.com/Shadow-Pinball [...] ented_W...



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2. gpct...@yahoo.com Sep 24, 7:15 pm show options

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HUO STTNG


$2199 and no bids


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3. gpct...@yahoo.com Sep 24, 7:21 pm show options

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Ebay is way overrated when it comes to drawing money


Chris told me that the two worst deals he ever did came off of Ebay
sales


I laugh when people call it "Epay"


No magic, especially when you are done paying all of their fees


Gary/Arizona


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To Mr. Gloom and Doom...I mean Gary:

The Shadow you linked is mine. I was offered OVER $4000 to end the
auction and decided to hold out for more. I felt I wasn't getting the
price I wanted due to not enough photos. I am currently home for 2 days
in between trips and will relist in late October or early November when
I get time to get to storage and get the pics. A lot of RGP'ers
e-mailed me for pics, but I didn't have the time to take more pics due
to extensive travel I do during the summer. When I relist, I'll be sure
to e-mail you and will look for your input instead of using the sellers
tools available from E-Bay.

PL


gpctv02@yahoo.com wrote:
> HUO Shadow
>
> Probably cost $3300 brand new plus shipping
>
> With inflation that $3300 would be $4500 today
>
> Auction is finished by the way ....
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Shadow-Pinball [...] dZViewItem

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I have a very nice Shadow that was routed briefly. Even though mine's
not HUO I wouldn't take $3K either. I'm not surprised you were offered
$4K for yours, nice copies are hard to find.

bogart
www.pinrestore.com


PL wrote:
> To Mr. Gloom and Doom...I mean Gary:
>
> The Shadow you linked is mine. I was offered OVER $4000 to end the
> auction and decided to hold out for more. I felt I wasn't getting the
> price I wanted due to not enough photos. I am currently home for 2 days
> in between trips and will relist in late October or early November when
> I get time to get to storage and get the pics. A lot of RGP'ers
> e-mailed me for pics, but I didn't have the time to take more pics due
> to extensive travel I do during the summer. When I relist, I'll be sure
> to e-mail you and will look for your input instead of using the sellers
> tools available from E-Bay.
>
> PL
>
>
> gpctv02@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>HUO Shadow
>>
>>Probably cost $3300 brand new plus shipping
>>
>>With inflation that $3300 would be $4500 today
>>
>>Auction is finished by the way ....
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Shadow-Pinball-Machine-Home-Use-Only-Documented_W0QQitemZ6205648552QQcategoryZ13725QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>

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PL ...

I am not Mr. Doom and Gloom

That's what it is ... tell people what they don't want to hear and they
all freak out especially when it has to do with money

In the year 2000 a lot of people were warned about the stock market
being too hot, and few listened

I don't think this market is too hot ...

Figure this, the person that bought that machine NIB paid $3500 or so
with taxes and shipping and whatever ... You were just offered $4000
for the machine, probably in great condition. Having more pictures
won't help that much, because in the ad you came off as an honest guy.

I take your word that the machine is close to perfect

Anyway, going from $3500 to $4000 or even $4500 in 10 years is how much
gain per year?

Maybe 3% .....

That is not a bubble market ...

The current prices of games are very fair, but it isn't like people are
getting rich or even keeping up with inflation with these games

just the facts ...

Gary/Arizona

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Skeets,

I didn't know I had to run my topics past you first

All I did the other day, was post a link to a T3 HUO with the comment
that the falling price wasn't good for Stern

They rely on the home market ... a bad re-sale could hurt future sales
if people like me are not crazy about taking that huge a hit

Behind the scenes everyone is telling me that Stern is hurting this
year

and of course, the 5%, the freaks, flip out ....

so go look at your buddies first ....

I have 28 pins and I could give two darns what they are worth, because
I am not selling any of them

But tell you what, next time I want to bring something up, I will email
you in private and get your permission

OK?

=)

Gary/Arizona

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The guy has to apologize for speaking the truth (Balboa)

The bottom line is that the "bubble" in pin prices is a fraud

It does not exist

Aside from a very few titles, pin prices are about the same as they
have always been, give or take

The only guys who are producing pins that have a hope of holding value
are the very top restoration guys like Chris Hutchins

And even those games, once out of his hands will lose a bit because too
many collectors have been lied to about game condition

The few times I have tried to sell games long distance, I almost felt
like the buyer wanted to hook me up to a lie detector machine or
something, so he would know he wouldn't get burned

They know Chris won't lie, but they don't trust the next guy in line as
much

anyway ...

=)

Gary/Arizona

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Skeets ...

Just relax and enjoy the night

It's freaking pinball machines we are talking about

I don't understand why you guys take it so seriously

ENJOY the hobby

If you don't like something I say, ignore it ...

=)

Gary/Arizona

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On 24 Sep 2005 20:37:19 -0700, gpctv02@yahoo.com wrote:

>I don't understand why you guys take it so seriously

8 posts to your own topic in 4 hours. Who's taking it seriously?

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You know what I haven't had in a while?....Big League Chew...

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IF you would learn to READ...you can clearly see in the one pic it was
3595.00...plus the sales tax, thus making it MORE than 3300....Hooked on
Phonics didn't work for you huh?

<gpctv02@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127603416.971488.137070@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> HUO Shadow
>
> Probably cost $3300 brand new plus shipping
>
> With inflation that $3300 would be $4500 today
>
> Auction is finished by the way ....
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Shadow-Pinball [...] dZViewItem
>

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i wish all pins were worth $1, then i can buy the 7 that fit in my
gameroom and be done with it.