Sorry for this question - but I cannot find an answer for it elsewhere. I am turning in my full tower system for a micro atx system. I do not need the power or speed anymore. I am done with school and sit in front of a PC all day doing GIS work for the Ohio Department of Transportation. I do not need a 3.2Ghz system, RAID 0 raptors, multiple optical drives, Audigy 2 sound etc to unwind with in the evenings... All of those items will be posting forsale..
Anyways - the question is this...
I am looking for a socket 479 processor, but most Pentium M CPUs (models 715-770) are advertised in a 478 pin package. Does Intel manufacture a socket 479 and 478 version of those respective processors, or are they the same package? Thanks for answering my dumb question in advance!

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99.9% of Pentium M on market today are S479.

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So even though a new Pentium M CPU is labled "478 pin" that is a socket 479 CPU then, correct? I know it sounds dumb - but I don't want to pay a 10-15% restocking fee on a pentium M CPU! Thank you for your response.

I personally haven't seen a single Pentium M that's S478.

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Awesome! Thanks for your responses. I've been building desktops since 1992, but I have never messed with or kept up with mobile technology. Thanks for your help.
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No worries. I'm intrested in which mobo you'll be using.

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I'm planning on using the Aopen i915Gmm-hfs and stuffing that into an Antec Aria cube. I don't game that much, and my GIS and CAD work is done at the office. (Its nice being out of college finally... ) I primarily want to build a small, power efficient system. As I said in an earlier post - I've got my system underclocked right now to 1.6ghz from 3.2ghz... I don't need gobs of power to surf the web, use word and excel, up/dwnload files and media usage. Thanks for your help!

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did newegg label it wrong?

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I'm assuming they must have labeled it wrong... That is how most retailers are labeling the Pentium M CPU's - socket 478... Kind of confusing to be honest with you.

First of all, cubes aren't THAT small, especially Micro ATX sized cubes. You could easily get a small tower that was HALF the width and only 50% taller.

Second, the Pentium-M isn't worth the price, it's only a few watts lower than the Athlon 64 Venice core, so cooling is the same for either.

But Tom's won't tell you that, because Tom's has never compared AMD's lowest-wattage desktop core to the Dothan.

For around $250 you can get a Pentium M at 1.8GHz, or you can get an Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8GHz) WITH motherboard for the same price. For $250 you can get a Socket 479 motherboard...wait, doesn't that make the AMD combination, with similar performance and similar cooling...half the price?

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I'm interested in what you're saying - especially considering the high price of the P-M CPU's, and a 479 mobo or an Asus board and the CT-479 adapter - and then having limited expandability... I'm looking into other options for cases. I'd like to be able to have an easily replacable power supply, and even a more modern PSU w/ cable management.

Going with a full-sized power supply limits how small the case can be, you'd end up with something about the size of a Sony VAIO minitower.

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An interesting case (albeit expensive) that I've found is the Silverstone SST-SG01. Its nearly the same size as the Aria, but uses a user selected ATX PSU.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-sg01.htm

Yes, it's really wide and really deep. Really! LOL. I'd probably consider one of the <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=Centurion+MicroATX+&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0" target="_new">Centurion Micro ATX towers</A> for an office PC. And the <A HREF="http://www.sysopt.com/features/mboard/article.php/3553961" target="_new">Latest Micro ATX Socket 939 board</A>. And I'd toss in an <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537" target="_new">A64 3000+</A>.

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An ever lower power consumption combo than Venice would be m-ATX S754 with Turion64.

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Turion? You mean an asparagus sprout? I used to pick asparagus!

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Are any online reviews or posts of power consumption available? Or were those mostly done to show how poor the P4 is? I think the sempron idea is a great ideal. There is a good selsction of Matx boards and they're all pretty cheap! The CPUs are cheaper too. May not have the performance of a 939 board, but I'm not out for killer performance.

Yes, there's a review somewhere that tested the actual powe consumption of a Venice and found it to be something like 28W at 2.4GHz. I can't remember where I read it, but it's been linked in the forums several times.

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