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October 22, 2005 12:28:56 AM

I have a intel pentium 4 3.4 ghz 800mhz 1 mb cache, and it has a tempature of 65-69C on the bios temp measurment. Now is that degrees normal or is that too hot. also there is artic silver on the cpu according to artic that it takes awhile for the artic silver for it to become effient in cooling, artic silver has been installed for about 3 days. also motherboard has temp of 30c-40c, i think thats a good temp, i don't think thats bad, unless someone else can suggest why it would be bad. alright thank you all.

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October 22, 2005 1:06:11 AM

Did you have trouble with the hsf clip?
Those temps say your heatsink isn't properly engaged.
Get a psu, with dual fans, a 120mm fan to bring air into the case, and another 120mm fan to blow out.
October 22, 2005 1:14:32 AM

well, i have two 120mm fans, one on the back one on the front. one 90 or 80 mm fan on the side, its basically blowing air towards the CPU. i have the powersupply fans. so you still think that i need more case cooling?
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October 22, 2005 1:20:48 AM

well i have the antec smart power supply 2.0 which as a dual fan. i do have 120mm fan on the back which is blowing air out, and one 120 mm fan that is bring air in, and also 80 mm fan that is bringing air in to the cpu area. Only one fan works on the psu, unless it gets too hot, than the second fan begins to spin, this is how antec smart power supply 2.0 is designed. about the heatsink fan, well i think its tighted in pretty good, although i am suspectious in that when i installed it, two on one side look to me that the pin went in all the way, while the other two went in almost to the end. I mean i did try my best to press as hard as i could without damaging the motherboard, but it did not go any further, so i assumed it was it's max. so i just turned the fisteners to the right or left, whatever direction, and just installed everything else, do you think i should give it another look? thank you.
October 22, 2005 1:36:54 AM

Your chip will spend most of it's time overheated, if you dont do something. Yes, by all means take another look at how the hsf is installed.
Did you connect the fan header for the psu? It's supposed to come on if system temps get too high.
You have an airflow problem. Try disabling each fan, one at a time, and see how it affects your temps. If one fan makes a lot of difference, try reversing it. Start with the side fan.
October 22, 2005 1:58:59 AM

the fan header is connected to the motherboard, so it should be fine, and the second fan did spin, so it is working fine from what i see. to add to my other post, i have been playing games for about 3 hours or so, and even if i don't play games, still the same temp, so what do you think about that? thank you.
October 22, 2005 2:14:52 AM

If it is a Prescott, then this is almost normal.. I would let it run prime 95 for some time and if it is stable, I would just make sure that there is good airflow in the case and forget about it..


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October 22, 2005 3:02:12 AM

which one is the Prescott, i'm not fimilar with it. if you talking about the 3.4 ghz 1mb cach LGA775, than i guess it is. or does prescott mean the processors that go behind 3GHZ?
October 22, 2005 3:25:33 AM

You have one. Prescott is the name of the latest Intel P4 CPU, Before the prescott, it was the Northwood.

Those Prescott are not really recommendable because of the heat they produce. I'm not a brand fn, but I simply cannot recommend an Intel CPU now simply because they are running too hot. How hot is too hot? Well, Intel are designed to throttle down and that could help in case of overheating.

Ok, So? Get the apps Throttlewatch and run prime95 and watch your CPU. After a while, if the system is still stable, check for any slowdown of your CPU. If your CPU speed is constant at full load, then you can safely say that your CPU might be running hot, but still in is thermal range. If after a while the speed drop, then you have to do something, not because of the heat, but because of the performance loss. Do what? My best advice would be to give up on it and go with AMD, but if you feel adventurous, then try different cooling solution such as liquid cooling in order to have your CPU to maintain its full performance at full load. Or you can try one of those hi performance HSF for the P4. I simply hope that you have good hear plugs...





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October 22, 2005 3:30:04 AM

just one more thing.. check the temperature in BIOS right after post and let it sit like this for a while. The temperature should raise. when it stabilize, check the difference.

Let say your CPU started at 40, which is almost impossible, it might mean that it put 10 or more degree higher than normal so your computer might only be running at 55-59 degree.. I never put blinb trust in temperature probe ...

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October 22, 2005 7:26:14 AM

Its to hot even for a pressy. The performance will suffer not only because of the throttle but also because of errors. The chips will begin to screw up at temps that high, although I doubt most people would realize that they were having problems until it was to late. Even then it gets blamed on some other component.

Something isnt right about temps that high. Im thinking that the heatsink isnt seated correctly.

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October 22, 2005 9:51:48 AM

i live in new york, brooklyn. the weather here have been around 60 and below, so it's not too hot outside.
October 22, 2005 9:54:33 AM

u know thats what another person said, that the heatsink is not seated properly. Maybe i should check it out, seems many are putting importants to that thought. the heatsink is the stocked heatsink of intel. what do you think should be the temp of my motherboard and CPU? thank you.
October 22, 2005 9:58:48 AM

i ran the prime95, and the throttlewatch, and it only went from 50% to 60%, do you think the cpu is so hot that it is not able to do 100% load. and i only allowed it to run to the fourth test. since i opened it today, it was 60C and as always it only goes up to 70C, this is according to the bios information.
October 22, 2005 10:18:24 AM

u know wusy, when i was running the test with prime95 and watching it with that throttlewatch, i notice, although it was using only 60% of cpu load, when i did some other work on other programs, it did go to 100%, but i think prime95 should of been able to get it to 100% right? so in this case, still is seen as a heat problem right? thank you.
October 22, 2005 10:21:55 AM

i forgot to mention to everyone, i think this is kind of weird, the rpm of the cpu fan is 3000 rpm, i don't think i seen it go over. I believe my celeron fan goes faster then that? lol, so i guess maybe the fan is also a problem.
October 22, 2005 12:21:34 PM

Your going to damage your CPU if you continue to run it at high temps. I think you are having a contact issue, those heatsinks can be tricky. You are probably running even hotter than you think. The reason that I say this is because I have monitored that same model CPU with an infrared temp gauge while it was under load. The idle temps were 35C but under a heavy enough load they would jump up to 63C Your not even starting out as low as I was so you probably are spiking much higher. If you want that prescott to run effectively your going to need to get rid of any throttleing. Are you running stock?

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October 22, 2005 12:25:58 PM

I cant remember for sure, but in throttlewatch if hes seeing the bars move "the 50%-60% he mentioned" doesnt that mean that hes throttleing that much? I think hes under the opposite impression.

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October 22, 2005 12:48:12 PM

yep, i am running the stocked heatsink.
October 22, 2005 12:59:53 PM

u know what i'll do, i'll let the system cool down, take out the cpu and heatsink and than i'll reinstall it and see if anything changes, i hope this changes things.
October 22, 2005 1:34:16 PM

If you have throttling, then you have a problem. Removing the heat sink and cleaning the thermal compound pad to apply fresh one will help. once you have installed the sink with the new compound, remove it and check how it is preaded. should be uniform and thin.

Other than that and good airflow in the case, there is not that much to do with stock cooling


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October 22, 2005 7:22:03 PM

take HSF off, and check your thermal paste, maybe you didn't do it right... ? then reseat the HSF and booter up

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October 22, 2005 9:30:09 PM

alright, i opened up the case, removed the heatsink and cpu. I cleaned the top of the cpu and heatsink with tiolet paper, lol. But this time i applied the artic silver cooler and spread it with a tooth pick on top of the cpu. i spread the gel around the center, yet leaving space on the edeges. The good news is that now the computer idles at 49-50C and when i tested it with prime95, temp went up to 69C-70C. when idling the cpu fan speed is around 2700 rpm and when the pressur is on it is around 3100 rpm. its about it. so what do you think.

Note: on the cpu i only spread(gel) on the upper and the lower part of the cpu there is a space that doesn't have gel, you think that is a problem.
October 22, 2005 9:35:11 PM

Does it throttle down when running full load? If no, then it is probably normal.

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October 22, 2005 9:42:25 PM

uum the throttle graph is doing nothing. i remmeber where it says TM1 that it used to go up and down but now nothing. the only graph that is moving is the cpu load graph which goes from 52%-56%. so what do you think is the problem.
October 22, 2005 9:45:16 PM

ah by the way the program that i am using to watch the temperatures and fan speeds is called PC Prob II which came with my ASUS P5LD2 DELUXE.
October 22, 2005 10:12:34 PM

Well, I don't have an Intel CPU, and I don't know about trottlewatch apart for its use, but if there is no throttling, then I guess that it is fine.

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October 22, 2005 10:49:29 PM

when you say throttling, does that mean the cpu is decreasing in speed or what? thank you.
October 22, 2005 11:08:58 PM

exactly, It reduce it speed so it dont overheat.

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October 22, 2005 11:13:59 PM

so i guess it is alright, because before i took out the hsf and putted the gel it used to go crazy the throttle graph. i believe it was around 30% or something like that. so i guess since now there is no throttle that means it's within it's thermal spec. right?
October 23, 2005 12:33:27 AM

I would say yes ...

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October 23, 2005 12:34:57 AM

It's still a little warm, though much better. Now it's time to do the second part of what I said. Try running with different case fans shut off. Start with the side fan. If turning off any of them makes your temps go down, reverse that fan.
October 23, 2005 1:10:49 AM

Still to hot. The thermal paste should cover the entire raised part of the CPU. The part that contacts the heatsink. Most of the time the heatsink will spread it out when you clamp it down. You had some improvement but still not enough. Tell us about your case and fan setup. Have you got alot of dust buildup on the heatsink and fan? What MOBO do you have?

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October 23, 2005 3:03:33 AM

well the case has three fans, two are 120mm and one is like 80mm which is on the side and its bringing in air. one of the 120mm is on the back which is bring out air. the 120 on the front is bringing in air to the case. this computer was only build like 5 days ago or so, so there is no dust or any of that.
October 23, 2005 3:06:28 AM

u know what the exact model of my case is: Thermaltake SOPRANO VB1000BWS Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window. i bought this from newegg.com, so if you go there and search for this model you would see how the case itself looks like.
October 23, 2005 4:13:52 AM

i disabled both the back fan and the side fan, on man, the cpu really went up to 70C pretty quick, and the cpu fan started working like crazy this time it was hitting 3500 rpm, so i stopped the test and the temp went down. i did though try just turning off the back fan, it wasn't crazy as this, it was like the usual. but once i turned off the side fan i think thats when things started boiling up.
October 23, 2005 4:22:41 AM

as i said in the post before this, when i did disable those two fans, the throttling in throtle watch started to have a precentage, so it looks like before it was working fine, but i still don't like the temp speed. especailly since i play games and it most definatly reaches 64C-69C.
October 23, 2005 11:10:11 AM

something interesting happened when i was playing around with the fans. the side fan has a filteration metal infont of it, meaning the air from that fan was weak, so i took it off, and guess what, my idle temp of the cpu decreased to 45C and on prime95 test it only went up to maxium of 62C-63C so there is a decrease from previous test of 70 and up. i'm thinking of just buying something that is like a pipe, a flexable one and use that pipe to let it only play air only on the cpu. i think this should decrease the temp much as well.
October 23, 2005 11:12:31 AM

is there a way to increase the speed of the cpu fan, because i did notice when i disable the back panel fan that the cpu fan went up above 3000 rpm, and now since have the side fan and the back panel fan working, even under heavy load from prime95 it only goes to 2300 rpm.
October 23, 2005 11:19:26 AM

Im just now catching on to the fact that your board is the SLI version of my board. The bad news is that ASUS has had mega problems with this board. The good news is that I have a BIOS that should help fix this. PM me your e-mail addy. Do you know how to flash the BIOS? Before I send this to you im going to e-mail someone just to make sure that it will work with your board.

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October 23, 2005 11:27:12 AM

well my board does not include SLI. the extra slot only can go up to 4x, it just there for people who want to have two monitors or something like that. so basically the only power slot is the PCI-E itself.

About the Bios, i think i know how to do it, i'll just have to read the manual, it shouldn't be any of a big of a deal. do you know the bios version, maybe i can just download it from asus.com.
October 23, 2005 12:39:53 PM

it sounds like your reading your temps in your bios. try getting a program like speedfan so you can see it in windows.

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October 23, 2005 6:32:50 PM

no, i'm using a program called PC Prob II which came with my asus motherboard.
October 23, 2005 7:35:41 PM

Ok..listen.. now that it is stable, and not throttling anymore, close the case ans stop worrying.. Both you CPU and motherboard have a 3 years warranty, so just use them ..

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October 23, 2005 7:42:34 PM

you think if i get a air duct that goes to the cpu, it should help, in that it will bring in more air to the CPU? right.
October 23, 2005 7:54:26 PM

What is the exact model number of your board? Is it P5WD2 I may have the letters out of place but that close.

You cant download this BIOS because its not available to the public.

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October 23, 2005 8:00:26 PM

my board is the p5ld2 deluxe, i don't know if thats going to work. the p5wd2 is i think the better motherboard, which is the 955x chipset mines is the 945P chipset.
October 23, 2005 8:27:06 PM

Ahhhh, I remember you... You were the one who asked so many question about RAID and I just told you to get some HDD and try it.

Then here I go again... Just put an air duct and see if it helps by yourself and stop asking question...JUST TRY!

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