Help! Idenity thiefted

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A close family friend was idenity theift'ed. They charged up her
American Express card and somehow emptyed her paypal of $1000.

Anyone ever have to work with paypal resolving thief from identity
thieft?

I am unfamiliar with AmEx, hopefully they can help, Any suggestions?
To prevent furture problems, can you change your SSN?

If anyone has had any experince with this, please let me know
 

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Wrong Newsgroup !!,

You posting on a $ 1000.00 Rip-Off & bringing it here ??


Yea, If you want to give out your SSN, Knock you're self out !! ( I
diont think we're that dumb ) Are You ???

Pin-Del, .
 
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billtedpin wrote:
> A close family friend was idenity theift'ed. They charged up her
> American Express card and somehow emptyed her paypal of $1000.
>
> Anyone ever have to work with paypal resolving thief from identity
> thieft?
>
> I am unfamiliar with AmEx, hopefully they can help, Any suggestions?
> To prevent furture problems, can you change your SSN?
>
> If anyone has had any experince with this, please let me know


"theift'ed, emptyed, Theif from identity theift" hehe Sorry I don't
have any "experince" With these things.
...."theift'ed", yea thats my favorite!
 
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This group has some helpful people here.

I was hopeing someone here would have some knowledge of what to do when
your paypal account is cleaned out. Yes, this is probably the wrong
forum but I figured someone might have an answer before I go posting on
an unfamiliar forum.
 
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Sorry for the loss and negative responses form this newsgroup, but you
are F'd bigtime and will probally never get your money back. Do a
google search on credit card fraud. Good luck!
 
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I have never been the victim of identity theft, but I have seen some
postings and shows on what to do. My suggestions may not do you a
bunch of good, but they will probably be more helpful than those
received to date.

My guess from what you have posted is that your friend got burned by
replying to an email that threatened his or her ability to continue to
use PayPal. He or she went somewhere, logged in and typed in critical
information. Once he or she did that, the criminal cleaned out the
PayPal account and the AmEx, which is probably the info that he or she
provided on the fake PayPal page. So, it is unlikely if this scenario
is correct that anynoe got the SSN, which one would not typically type
into PayPal. Of course, anything is possible.

AmEx is going to be much better with regard to this issue. Typically,
credit card companies limit liability to $50 in the event of fraudelent
charges. He or she should immediately contact AmEx and ask for the
security division. The people in that department are very experienced
in this type of issue. They will typically immediately cancel the card
and issue a new card with a different account number. Then, they will
go over charges with the victim one by one, separating real charges
from fraudulent charges. In many cases, they will send the victim
documnetation to sign, affirming which charges he or she did not incur.
They will routinely remove any fraudulent charges and not charge any
late fees until the account is resolved.

PayPal is probably a different matter. As far as I can tell, its
protections are much less effective than those offered by the credit
card companies. My guess is that the victim should contact PayPal
directly, identify the fraudelent transactions specifically. PayPal
has some procedure in place to resolve these issues, but my guess is
that PayPal errs in favor of PayPal, which is to say they do not
release any funds back to the victim until the whole matter is
resolved, if at all. I looked on their web pages and they have all
kinds of information about avoiding being ripped off in this fashion,
but no practical advise on what to do if it occurs. Ultimately your
friend is in a bad position, as they probably did give out their
account name and password, for which they are solely responsible. Not
sating it is fair, but it may be the way it is.

In terms of moving forward, I would recommend that you pass on the idea
of asking further questions in newsgroups and go directly to the source
for information and guidance. The Federal Trade Commission maintains a
web page that will answer your general questions, including the SSN
question. It is at http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft/

I am sorry this happened to your friend. Good luck in getting this
resolved.

Ron






billtedpin wrote:
> This group has some helpful people here.
>
> I was hopeing someone here would have some knowledge of what to do when
> your paypal account is cleaned out. Yes, this is probably the wrong
> forum but I figured someone might have an answer before I go posting on
> an unfamiliar forum.
 

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I didnt mean to sound Rude,, Sorry you took it that way , But I dont
give my SSN to Anyone Period !!!.

Thats about all a Crook needs to clean you out.

Pin-Del,
 
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Del:

He did not ask anybody to reveal their Social Security Number. He was
asking about steps his friend should take in order to resolve this
issue. His question was if she ought to apply for a new Social
Security number, that is what I think he meant by " To prevent furture
problems, can you change your SSN?". It looks like you read that a bit
differently, as "will someone swap SSN's with my friend?" or something
like that. I can see where the wording could have been clearer, and
how you might have read it differently. I guess that I looked at it
twice, because the only way it made sense to me was the way I described
it above.

But, I think he was just looking for a little advice to help a friend.
I am sure that what he wrote seems perfectly clear to him, and his
first thought was that he was being given a hard time. I think it was
fair for him to ask the question here, as many people here deal with
PayPal and he knows some of the people. My general inclination would
be to research this issue myself with the appropriate authorities or
entities with which I ws having difficulty, rather than relying on the
advice folks on any newsgroup or forum might offer, no matter how good
the group.

Hopefully, he will be able to get good information at the page I sent
him to and he will be able to help his friend resolve her problem.
Sadly, my guess is that the PayPal money is gone for good.


Ron



Del wrote:
> I didnt mean to sound Rude,, Sorry you took it that way , But I dont
> give my SSN to Anyone Period !!!.
>
> Thats about all a Crook needs to clean you out.
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> Pin-Del,
 

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Thanks Ron & after reading it again, I see your point & you're Right,,,
No harm meant here & I hope things work out in their favor .

Pin-Del,
 
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I am not trying to find a subsitute clear social security number.
However, it sounds like once someone has your SSN it is card blanche'
to do what ever they like. All I am finding is horror stories about
paypal screwing you (everyone). After hearing these stories, I almost
want to disconnect paypal from my checking/savings to pervent them from
having access to my personal accounts.

Getting a new SSN would sound like the only possibility to stop it.

Thanks to all of those who offered advice.
 

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This goes back to my thoughts that Social Security should implement
some kind of added "pin number" on everybody's SSN, like on ATM cards.
It would be added to to everybody's SSN but not printed on forms etc.
If somebody STILL managed to steal the pin number, you could go down to
your nearest SSN office and present a bunch of proof of your identity
and get the pin number reset to a new one. Of course would present
problems such as you wouldn't want people to be entering the pin number
on credit applications. It would be a big undertaking - but can you
imagine how rampant ATM ripoffs would be if you DIDN'T have to know the
pin number?!
Frenchy