depends on how you test. one on one the i think paul would mop up. however, if you average your scores to get a team score i think the intel team would come out just a little ahead on the basis of more ram and the raided hd's
1. ok the bp6 can support p3's at all and i need a adaptor and i can only have 1 processor then
2. im talking about people you say there pc is the best when they very bought it from the store and know nonthing about making it and the farest when only know is how to open a cd-rom and start windows. so i dont like there type where they make fun of my pc cause there 2 celerons and i have put 4 week into making fast as could be and know every part by heart. yesterday i put on a new 2400uf 10v cap on to replace my ec10. A jerk today told me to sell it cause his dell rules. That made me very angry cause it took me 1hour to replace the cap and then to be insulted. then i asked him how many -(ns)- his ddr-ram in is a his geforce card was? he answered me by what is -(ns)-. so i dont like that type i hoped i answered your comment. it very personal with my pc week of hard work and i wont let it be made fun of.
November 16, 2000 1:23:05 AM
It always pays to know how the system is put together. It was actually my saving grace, you could say, in the earlier days. "You're running a 386?? Dude, you are so lost, get with it. You can't do anything with that." For an aspiring Engineer, what could you do? Only know how the darn thing worked and was put together. Now who's the king, baby?
I understand what rcf84 is saying. I don't think he meant any harm to the bunch of us. Just came out wrong, that's all.
As for which system will rule, it depends on what you're after. A 3d accelerator intensive game would obviously fair better on the systems geared towards it.
Here's an idea, though an obvious massive undertaking. Why not swap the parts between you guys to get a super system and bench that?
~Hand built AMD T-Bird at 800, built with my own blood and sweat, literally.
well i didn't mean to insult you either i just think you misplaced your soapbox is all. if you're happy with your system and you put it together for whatever you consider a reasonable price, more power to you (i realize that's an over used phrase but i couldn't think of anything else). even if someone can get ahold of a cheaper/better system than one that was custom built they're not going to know how to tweak it and they certainly not going to have the knowledge that someone who puts their own box together is. it's comparing apples and oranges (another overused/lame phrase). we're the ones who build their pretty pre-fab systems so i don't see why anything they say should bother you.
dell computers are bought by babies :wink: . I'm a former bp6 owner and this board rulez!!! I hate to say it but recently I converted myself to AMD and bought me a TBird 900 + ABIT KT7R. I must say I'm pleased with my switch to AMD but I miss the "dual feeling"... can't wait till those AMD smp boards are for sale...
I think the bp6 setup has a good chance to outperform the rest (given that you run win2k) but I think it won't stand a chance against an AMD dual setup...
I think the most poeple that wisit this forum had built
their own Computers. I've never bought a full pc only
parts. Hell i take a part my PC ever other week and look inside and thinking how more can i tweak it !
And i`m talking of:
Asus TX97-XE K6-2 500@450 (due to the slow memory unable to bare 83FSB) V2, Ati 3d rage pro 2
IBM 25GP 32 sdram (66) (4 clock if any body remembers)
Hell we are all here because we like building PCs.
Even though some have SCSI RAID, Paul is the clear winner thus far. Pick up a ABIT KT7-RAID and a 1.2ghz athlon. Get 4 ultra/100 IDE hard drives and RAID-0 them together. GET a total of 512mb of pc133 ram, and blow Paul outa the race.
It would be nice to check the FPU performance on the Xeon system and the 1.2 Ghz Athlon system.. I think the 1.2ghz would smoke the 2x xeon's due to athlons superior fpu performance. Still the systems looks kinda odd to me.. I'm used to buy midrange pieces of hardware (550 mhz K7) Pc100 mem, ATA 66 Hdd at 7200RPM and so forth (still using Matrox G400 single head)... But now I've got a nice christmas bonus coming my way and are going to waste (and it's really a waste since I can wait 1 month to the prices drop, but what the hell it's christmas)an awfull lot of money on the fastest Gf2 Ultra card out there (gainward ultra 500) and 256mb PC133 Cas2 ram and 1.2Ghz AMD.. and it's going to cost me arround 1750$ just for those things (also getting an A7V w/ATA100 (I've got a IBM 75GXP 75GB drive so..).. one rule I broke was to be sensible.. I'm not being that buying these parts.. I'ld join the 4 systems.. still I guess that's not an option.. the Xeon sys is a typical server to me.. Aww.. ALLWAYS BUILD YOUR OWN PC, anything else is suicidal.
November 16, 2000 1:38:00 PM
You tell em Jolly.
I have built ever single computer I have own. I would agree that most people come to toms and this forum becuase they build there own.
I have forgotten more about assembling computers then those pups will ever learn. Now I'm starting to show my age.:>)
Back in my day, putting the 10MB 500lb harddrive took three people and one of those car engine lifts.
Everthing we did was harder back in those days, but thats what made us strong and proud.
Kids today have tom's to talk them through ever step. It was all up hill for us back then and when we got to the top of the hill, there was no sled to ride back down, no sir!
This is what I wil tell my daughter when she's putting her first computer together! AMD of coarse!
November 16, 2000 5:00:43 PM
Having bought PC's and built my own, I much prefer building them. I think my biggest issue was back in the day when I order my K6-2 box, and that was around the time the TNT came out and Socket7 boards were all having trouble with the TNT card. I had to call up the people who were building my computer and walk them through how to update the drivers so that my computer would post. damn waste of my time. So now I refuse to let anyone in my family buy another computer, I'd rather have to commute home to fix it, than have to deal with some idiot in Tech Support.
July 11, 2001 5:25:01 AM
hahahahah..i see you guys had an eventful friday night