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I am sure that this has been asked before (sorry in
advance), but I cannot get my linksys pci card to get to
the interent through this router. It seems to have a
really hard with detecting its' settings. The signal
strenght seems fine (I switched channels as suggested by
the linksys tech), but still no success.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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Post in a linksys newsgroup.

Well lets look at the name of the newsgroup. It starts with "microsoft"
so that must mean we only talk about Microsoft products. Next it says
"public" so that means any person can post here. Then it says
"broadbandnet" so since this is a Microsoft newsgroup it must be talking
about the Microsoft Broadband Networking. Last but not least it says
"hardware" So that must mean it is the Microsoft hardware for networking
that we talk about.

Thus this is not a general networking newsgroup, but one for the
Microsoft Broadband networking hardware. I'd suggest either posting in
a newsgroup for the hardware you are running, a general networking
newsgroup, or one for whatever version of Windows you are running.

Josh wrote:

> I am sure that this has been asked before (sorry in
> advance), but I cannot get my linksys pci card to get to
> the interent through this router. It seems to have a
> really hard with detecting its' settings. The signal
> strenght seems fine (I switched channels as suggested by
> the linksys tech), but still no success.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?

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Sorry after I replied to your post I noticed you mentioned you have a
MN-500. You should have also mentioned that in the body of the post as
most people don't pay attention to the subject while reading the body &
will blow you off or ask you questions that you foolishly answered in a
place where they won't notice it.

Joker wrote:

> Post in a linksys newsgroup.
>
> Well lets look at the name of the newsgroup. It starts with "microsoft"
> so that must mean we only talk about Microsoft products. Next it says
> "public" so that means any person can post here. Then it says
> "broadbandnet" so since this is a Microsoft newsgroup it must be talking
> about the Microsoft Broadband Networking. Last but not least it says
> "hardware" So that must mean it is the Microsoft hardware for networking
> that we talk about.
>
> Thus this is not a general networking newsgroup, but one for the
> Microsoft Broadband networking hardware. I'd suggest either posting in
> a newsgroup for the hardware you are running, a general networking
> newsgroup, or one for whatever version of Windows you are running.

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What linksys network card are you using?

Which OS is running on that computer?

How far is it from the MN-500 to the computer?

What does the wireless signal have to travel through? (walls, metal,
other dense objects other then air, etc...)

Have you enabled WEP on the MN-500?

What firmware version are you running on the MN-500?

Have you tried changing the wireless channel?

Do you broadcast the SSID? (Disabling broadcast of the SSID is not a
valid form of wireless security, because all wireless packets include
this information without encrypting it.)

Is the linksys card set to run in turbo mode?

Answer these questions & we can help you better.

Josh wrote:

> I am sure that this has been asked before (sorry in
> advance), but I cannot get my linksys pci card to get to
> the interent through this router. It seems to have a
> really hard with detecting its' settings. The signal
> strenght seems fine (I switched channels as suggested by
> the linksys tech), but still no success.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?

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Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the
linksys people are pointing at the router and not their
card. Teaches me for buying mismatched network hardware;)

>-----Original Message-----
>What linksys network card are you using?
>[Josh] Dual-Band Wireless A+G PCI Adapter Model #WMP55AG

>Which OS is running on that computer?
>[Josh] Windows 2000

>How far is it from the MN-500 to the computer?
>[Josh] Floor right above the router.

>What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
(walls, metal,
>other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>[Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor

>Have you enabled WEP on the MN-500?
>[Josh] Yes

>What firmware version are you running on the MN-500?
>[Josh] Current Base Station Firmware Version
Version: V1.11.017
Date: 10-03-2003


>Have you tried changing the wireless channel?
>[Josh] Yes I have. It improved signal strength, but
still no dice.

>Do you broadcast the SSID? (Disabling broadcast of the
SSID is not a
>valid form of wireless security, because all wireless
packets include
>this information without encrypting it.)
>[Josh]Yes, the SSID is being broadcasted.


>Is the linksys card set to run in turbo mode?
>[Josh] Not sure...looked through their database/user
manual and haven't seen this feature/option.

>[Josh] Thanks for the help. I am guessing that it is
related to signal strength. Looking at the linksys meter,
I am about 50% for strength and quality. Guess I have to
look into a boost antennae?

>Answer these questions & we can help you better.
>
>Josh wrote:
>
>> I am sure that this has been asked before (sorry in
>> advance), but I cannot get my linksys pci card to get
to
>> the interent through this router. It seems to have a
>> really hard with detecting its' settings. The signal
>> strenght seems fine (I switched channels as suggested
by
>> the linksys tech), but still no success.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
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>assistance.
>
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>
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on
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before wasting our
>time.
>.
>

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anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
> Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the
> linksys people are pointing at the router and not their
> card. Teaches me for buying mismatched network hardware;)
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>What linksys network card are you using?
>>[Josh] Dual-Band Wireless A+G PCI Adapter Model #WMP55AG
>
>
>>Which OS is running on that computer?
>>[Josh] Windows 2000
>
>
>>How far is it from the MN-500 to the computer?
>>[Josh] Floor right above the router.
>
>
>>What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
>
> (walls, metal,
>
>>other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>>[Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor
>
>
>>Have you enabled WEP on the MN-500?
>>[Josh] Yes
>
>
>>What firmware version are you running on the MN-500?
>>[Josh] Current Base Station Firmware Version
>
> Version: V1.11.017
> Date: 10-03-2003
>
>
>
>>Have you tried changing the wireless channel?
>>[Josh] Yes I have. It improved signal strength, but
>
> still no dice.
>
>
>>Do you broadcast the SSID? (Disabling broadcast of the
>
> SSID is not a
>
>>valid form of wireless security, because all wireless
>
> packets include
>
>>this information without encrypting it.)
>>[Josh]Yes, the SSID is being broadcasted.
>
>
>
>>Is the linksys card set to run in turbo mode?
>>[Josh] Not sure...looked through their database/user
>
> manual and haven't seen this feature/option.
>
>
>>[Josh] Thanks for the help. I am guessing that it is
>
> related to signal strength. Looking at the linksys meter,
> I am about 50% for strength and quality. Guess I have to
> look into a boost antennae?
>
>
>>Answer these questions & we can help you better.
>>
>>Josh wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am sure that this has been asked before (sorry in
>>>advance), but I cannot get my linksys pci card to get
>
> to
>
>>>the interent through this router. It seems to have a
>>>really hard with detecting its' settings. The signal
>>>strenght seems fine (I switched channels as suggested
>
> by
>
>>>the linksys tech), but still no success.
>>>
>>>Anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>>--
>>Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact
>
> you directly for
>
>>assistance.
>>
>>If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>>
>>If it's not worth posting you should have done a search
>
> on
>
>>http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?
>
> hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
>
>>http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q=
>
> before wasting our
>
>>time.
>>.
>>
Well you can tell Linksys. NOWAY. I have both and a Microsoft mn500
BAse. I would have bought a damn MS card but Circ City quit carrying it.
I have however a mn520 on other laptop. I have tried everything. No
security, wireless 802.11b with mn520 also 802.11b, and a MN500 for
about 6 mos. THEN last fri morning I went to lap, turned it on, (It
hadnt even been moved) and Nada.
walt

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anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:

> Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the
> linksys people are pointing at the router and not their
> card. Teaches me for buying mismatched network hardware;)
>
>

>>What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
>
> (walls, metal,
>
>>other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>>[Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor
>

Well they should have been smart enough to ask that question. Just to
make sure I'm correct there is a slab of concrete that the wireless
signal has to go through. Is that correct?

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Joker wrote:

>
>
> anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the linksys people are
>> pointing at the router and not their card. Teaches me for buying
>> mismatched network hardware;)
>>
>>
>
>>> What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
>>
>>
>> (walls, metal,
>>
>>> other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>>> [Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor
>>
>>
>
> Well they should have been smart enough to ask that question. Just to
> make sure I'm correct there is a slab of concrete that the wireless
> signal has to go through. Is that correct?
>

What I'm trying to ask is the following question rephrased.

Is there a slab of concrete between the router & the NIC?

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Joker wrote:
>
>
> anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the linksys people are
>> pointing at the router and not their card. Teaches me for buying
>> mismatched network hardware;)
>>
>>
>
>>> What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
>>
>>
>> (walls, metal,
>>
>>> other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>>> [Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor
>>
>>
>
> Well they should have been smart enough to ask that question. Just to
> make sure I'm correct there is a slab of concrete that the wireless
> signal has to go through. Is that correct?
>
Hey Joker
Ive got my mn520 two feet from my 500 and all it does is wink at me. The
icon in systray has a red x on it. I can connect with ethernet cable.All
of this started all of a sudden. One day it worked until the AM..next
morn at 8 it didnt work. Neither laptop, the other has a Linksys 802.11b. W

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I am in a 2 story apartment. The mn500 is on the 1st
floor, with the computer on the 2nd floor. The two are
situated over each other.




>-----Original Message-----
>Joker wrote:
>>
>>
>> anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, this is for a microsoft broadband router...the
linksys people are
>>> pointing at the router and not their card. Teaches me
for buying
>>> mismatched network hardware;)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>> What does the wireless signal have to travel through?
>>>
>>>
>>> (walls, metal,
>>>
>>>> other dense objects other then air, etc...)
>>>> [Josh] Concrete apartment walls/floor
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well they should have been smart enough to ask that
question. Just to
>> make sure I'm correct there is a slab of concrete that
the wireless
>> signal has to go through. Is that correct?
>>
>Hey Joker
>Ive got my mn520 two feet from my 500 and all it does is
wink at me. The
>icon in systray has a red x on it. I can connect with
ethernet cable.All
>of this started all of a sudden. One day it worked until
the AM..next
>morn at 8 it didnt work. Neither laptop, the other has a
Linksys 802.11b. W
>.
>

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So the wireless signal has to go through concrete then?

anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:

> I am in a 2 story apartment. The mn500 is on the 1st
> floor, with the computer on the 2nd floor. The two are
> situated over each other.
>

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I've told you in another thread start your own thread for your own
problem all you are doing is confusing the issue by posting an unrelated
issue into this thread.

ElKabong wrote:


> Hey Joker
> Ive got my mn520 two feet from my 500 and all it does is wink at me. The
> icon in systray has a red x on it. I can connect with ethernet cable.All
> of this started all of a sudden. One day it worked until the AM..next
> morn at 8 it didnt work. Neither laptop, the other has a Linksys 802.11b. W

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yes

>-----Original Message-----
>So the wireless signal has to go through concrete then?
>
>anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>
>> I am in a 2 story apartment. The mn500 is on the 1st
>> floor, with the computer on the 2nd floor. The two are
>> situated over each other.
>>
>
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>

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You will need to run a wire then as the 802.11b specification only
allows 1 Watt of output on the antenna. This can not go through dense
objects such as steel, lead, rocks, bricks, or concrete.

One of the two following hardware configurations will allow you to
expand your Microsoft Broadband Network.

The first one is connected via wires & the second one is connected via
wireless.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wired connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #2
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of MN-500 or
MN-700 #3 (if available)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wireless connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

(For this configuration you can only use WEP & MAC filtering, for
wireless security, because the MN-740 doesn't support WPA.)

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #1
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #2
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)

You will have to configure each MN-740 on an Xbox to connect to the
wireless network you want the second & third router to connect to.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
General configuration information for both network connection types.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Make sure all MN-100's & MN-500's are running the latest firmware which
is 1.11.017

Make sure all MN-700's are running the latest firmware which is 2.01.02.0590

Make sure all MN-740's are running the latest firmware which is 1.00.02.0021

Now let’s look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700:

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
Router mode
LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
Some SSID (if wireless)
Some WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 6 (if wireless)

MN-500 or MN-700 #2
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 1

MN-500 or MN-700 #3 (if available)
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 11


If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network
supports WPA) the same for all base stations, people will be able to
move between locations and get a connection, without needing to change
there configuration as they move.

If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless routers you will
have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch between wireless
networks.

You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base stations to
prevent interference.

Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between them as 1, 6,
& 11 do.

Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping channels.

There are more combinations if you only need two channels.

One last note 2.4 & many 5.8 GHz phones (The models that use the 2.4 GHz
frequency as well as the 5.8 GHZ frequency) will cause interference with
802.11b & 802.11g wireless networking hardware, as 802.11b & 802.11g
both use the 2.4 GHz frequency.


anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
> yes
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>So the wireless signal has to go through concrete then?
>>

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thanks for the info. neat way to create a bridge out of
routers. Though, I don't know if the concrete density is
the problem. I am testing out my 802.11b laptop in the
same location and the signal strength is near full. So,
I am assuming that it is back to linksys...

Thanks again.

>-----Original Message-----
>You will need to run a wire then as the 802.11b
specification only
>allows 1 Watt of output on the antenna. This can not go
through dense
>objects such as steel, lead, rocks, bricks, or concrete.
>
>One of the two following hardware configurations will
allow you to
>expand your Microsoft Broadband Network.
>
>The first one is connected via wires & the second one is
connected via
>wireless.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>Wired connection configuration information.
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>
>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-
700 #1
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of
MN-500 or MN-700 #2
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of
MN-500 or
>MN-700 #3 (if available)
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>Wireless connection configuration information.
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>
>(For this configuration you can only use WEP & MAC
filtering, for
>wireless security, because the MN-740 doesn't support
WPA.)
>
>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #1
>MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #2
>MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if
available)
>
>You will have to configure each MN-740 on an Xbox to
connect to the
>wireless network you want the second & third router to
connect to.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>General configuration information for both network
connection types.
>---------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>
>Make sure all MN-100's & MN-500's are running the latest
firmware which
>is 1.11.017
>
>Make sure all MN-700's are running the latest firmware
which is 2.01.02.0590
>
>Make sure all MN-740's are running the latest firmware
which is 1.00.02.0021
>
>Now let's look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or
MN-700:
>
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
>Router mode
>LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
>Some SSID (if wireless)
>Some WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports
WPA)
>Channel 6 (if wireless)
>
>MN-500 or MN-700 #2
>Bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP
range
>Same SSID
>Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports
WPA)
>Channel 1
>
>MN-500 or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>Bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP
range
>Same SSID
>Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports
WPA)
>Channel 11
>
>
>If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (If the
entire network
>supports WPA) the same for all base stations, people
will be able to
>move between locations and get a connection, without
needing to change
>there configuration as they move.
>
>If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless
routers you will
>have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch
between wireless
>networks.
>
>You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base
stations to
>prevent interference.
>
>Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels
between them as 1, 6,
>& 11 do.
>
>Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping
channels.
>
>There are more combinations if you only need two
channels.
>
>One last note 2.4 & many 5.8 GHz phones (The models that
use the 2.4 GHz
>frequency as well as the 5.8 GHZ frequency) will cause
interference with
>802.11b & 802.11g wireless networking hardware, as
802.11b & 802.11g
>both use the 2.4 GHz frequency.
>
>
>anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
>> yes
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>So the wireless signal has to go through concrete then?
>>>
>
>--
>Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact
you directly for
>assistance.
>
>If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
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before wasting our
>time.
>.
>

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If the linksys is able to get past concrete they are not following the
802.11 standard created by the IEEE group. That requires more power
then that to make it. Microsoft followed the standard to a fault
(meaning they could make it through dense object as the standard made it
impossible).

anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:
> thanks for the info. neat way to create a bridge out of
> routers. Though, I don't know if the concrete density is
> the problem. I am testing out my 802.11b laptop in the
> same location and the signal strength is near full. So,
> I am assuming that it is back to linksys...
>
> Thanks again.
>

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