Does this shock you?

OK...

Pardon me for leaving my crystal ball at home, but what the hell are you on about?

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Is that better

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Hehe.. I'll have some of whatever you're having mozz...

Am I shocked? No, not really. I find it very sad though - there must be serious psychological/emotional after-effects from doing this.

It's just yet more proof that the whole sex-ed thing in this country is not working.

I'm definitely not a good role model there though, so I'll not suggest a solution.


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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."

Last I heard, we have rapidly soaring levels of teenage pregnancies etc.

The issue is <i>not</i> one of not knowing what happens when you engage in unprotected sex. I was taught all the biological side of things when I was 10 or 11 in primary school here, and that was years ago.

It's more of a morals/peer pressure type problem. I have no idea how to fix that though.

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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."

I dont have a solution either, but the current situation is really sad. This article is just the tip of the iceberg. I come from a small town so everyone knows just about every move you make. I dare to say that me and my friends were as sexually active as the teens these days are. Well, maybe not at 12 years old. Not even one of my friends that I am aware of would have even given much thought to an abortion much less going through with it. Now that seems to be the first thing they think of. THen its just a matter of getting it done. I can think of 3 different girls that have had at least 2 abortions and they are 18 or younger. Sign of the times?

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What I actually meant was that it seems much more accepted in the states to wait for marriage - or at least to not have sex with anyone that quickly - among young people.

The kids/teens don't seem to be quite so eager to jump into bed with each other (or at least, they would rather resist the urge for awhile) This is of course just perceptions I've picked up from general reading and watching the news, etc, over here.

Religion also seems to have much more standing in the US population, compared to here, which may have something to do with it of course.

For example, we don't really have these fanatical idiots trying to kill doctors who perform abortions because of religious views...

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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."

Hey, awesome - If I ever come across the pond (which I would like to do sometime), I'll be cummin' down there...

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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."

No, but sticking a fork in a outlet always does. P

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the thing to realise is those fanatics that use violence to protest are not religious. they claim to be but they do not believe what they preach.

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I prefer the story of when some Lady - I forget who, but she was socially fairly high up - berated Churchill for being drunk and his reply was something like:
"Yes, I am drunk, but in the morning I will be sober; You, however, will still be ugly."

A great man indeed.

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I should add that I'm not blaming religion for anything like that - They always claim to be christian, but they ignore the commandment that is one of the cornerstones of their claimed religion - "Thou shalt not kill". Those people are just hypocrites, and quite honestly I think someone should shoot them. My bringing it up was a bit out of context, but I was just waffling.
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Not to flame you because you have some intelligent things to say and in a way I understand where you are coming from, but I don't agree.

I'm not that kind of person myself but frankly, I don't feel a bit sorry for those so called "doctors" when they get what is coming to them. They have not right to call themselves doctors at all for that matter. Even the Hippocratic Oath written by a pagan forbids this:

"I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art."


This is at least a 5-year-old statistic but I heard the number 30,000,000 unborn children aborted in this nation. I'm sure it is probably a good 10,000,000 more since then. I find it ironic that the conversation would even shift away from this staggering number to the handful of people that have been killed in abortion clinic bombings. I do not advocate violence nor would I encourage anyone to do such a thing. But on the other hand I don't necessarily consider them villains for doing it. It is simply executing a murderer(which is not only allowed but commanded), which we should be doing more of anyway. That would stop it. Instead we just give criminals a slap on the wrist so they and others repeat the crimes over and over. And why wouldn't we, when we live in a society that thinks nothing of killing our unborn children.



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The subject was briefly discussed a few days ago. Where were you?

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Dont feel bad, the old Jedi Mind trick never fails me. So I gather that you didnt miss us while on vacation. I would love to travel over to that part of the world, but I dont see that ever happening. I really dont think that it will ever be safe for a US citizen to travel outside the states. Of course im not so sure that any of us are safe anywhere these days. The world had changed long before 9/11, but we didnt realize how much it had changed until that day.



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You are probably correct, and it occured to me that by feeling the way I do the fockers have already won part of the battle.

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If every american thought that way (not that I'm putting you down, or saying anything personally against you), then you wouldn't have any terrorists... But you would never leave the country, never let anyone in, and the whole world would be worse off, IMO.

That is basically what the Radical Nutters who carry out these attacks believe should be done in their own countries - they should be left completely insulated from outside influence, and allowed to continue entirely as they see fit.

The problem is, that 'as they see fit' is not always humane, and is usually pretty undemocratic as far as a lot of their country's population is concerned. We civilized western countries see opression and suffering of many people, and seek to somehow rectify this (OK, perhaps sometimes the wrong way, but at least our governments are <i>trying</i> ) These terrorists seek to stop any interference in what they see as the 'natural' way of things. They <i>don't</i> want 'one world, one people' like most of us westerners do.

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Thing is, there is only one world, and we will have to make do with it. I agree with those who think that this should not automatically lead to "one people". If a people (a tribe) chooses to live in slavery, they should be free to do so. However, how do you objectively determine that they freely chose to do so?

In order to live together on this one world we need a world of free individuals, where we can be sure that such choices are made in free will. Of course this requires that all these free individuals actually think about the world they're living in, take control over what it is in their power, try to do that which is good for the world they're living in, and bear the consequences of their actions.

At the moment, this requires a perspective, that is not yet present in most of us. Also the underlying assumption is that the vast majority of individuals will (want to) do the right thing (for the world), basically the assumption that people are good in principle, not bad.

If you are a believer that "good" is (only) determined by circumstance, this is not contradiction with the previous statement. In this case, it is a case of changing circumstance where we find that our actions are affecting all other living things on a planetary scale. Of course this still requires a global perspective.


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