I'm looking for a 'budget' graphics card, and I think it would be kind of cool to have an off brand card that *surprise* doesn't suck! At least not when compared to other budget cards (and could get better with more mature drivers).

you know what? I think you are on the wrong msg board

but still, GF2 MX is the bang of the buck coz no matter how mature its driver gets, it still doesn't have a T&L engine.

You know what, you're right!

Bah, I'm sick of Nvidia. Sick of ATi. Sick of 3DFX. I want a card from someone else. Just so I can be differant.

And the Pyro doesn't look bad... with the 32MB version most likely being under $100, it should be a solid contender against the GF2 MX!

under a hundred sounds good, but for 135 on pricewatch you can get a gforce256ddr- creative labs anhialator pro. for 135, I may ditch my guillemot exentor32 (tnt2U chip) myself and go with that. It's a great deal and almost always out performs geforce2mx's.