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I was killing lich kings in a greater undead vault with my grey elven
wizard at level 30, CoC 46. Because I couldn't access the library (only
70 something climbing) and I killed Yergius earlier (so no detect traps
for mana temple), I decided to get whatever was in this vault. Using
the magic map spell showed a really good looking, tempting item deep in
the vault. My death report showed that there were 3 artifacts I missed:
the shield protector, the fine leather armor, and the RING OF IMMUNITY.
Most of the monsters were very experienced, but acid ball was merciless
against them. I cleared the outside of the temple easily and gained a
level, so I decided I would take on the center.
I died when an emperor lich summoned a ridiculous amount of monsters
(enough to fill the vault!), I couldn't get close enough to ball him
(and arrows would also be useless), so I used bolts. He is IMMUNE to
bolts through shrugging. His confusion ignores a blessed amulet of free
action. Finally, he has an instakill death ray attack that killed me in
one hit. All of this on top of being "very experienced" due to the
vault and depth of the CoC.
I can't see how these things are beatable for normal, non scumming,
characters. Greater undead vaults ARE NOT HARD like people say. It's
only the EMPEROR that's hard. I don't know a single way to kill them
short of getting 96 willpower through archmage and very great ball
spells from the range boost. There's just no way a normal character can
beat them...
TB should make king lichs stronger. Their ease spoiled me and made me
think I could take on the emperor. And my crowned robes of resistance
spoiled me into not wearing the AMW. It's not fair.
Looking back, there were only a few more things I could have done. I
could have done bugville for some speed (after level 30, I don't think
levels matter so much anymore), even though I already had 7lbs. I could
have ran through the mana temple without my stuff and prayed through
the ceiling traps. I could have climbed mountains in the wilderness to
get to 100. I could have scummed wands for my mana battery corruption
and hope to get wish at the library. I could have gone blue dragon
hunting. I could have done so much more...
My next character might be a mindcrafter with melee and arrow backup. I
can't tolerate calculating where 18 range bolts are going to go and
pure melee is too hard.
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I was killing lich kings in a greater undead vault with my grey elven
wizard at level 30, CoC 46. Because I couldn't access the library (only
70 something climbing) and I killed Yergius earlier (so no detect traps
for mana temple), I decided to get whatever was in this vault. Using
the magic map spell showed a really good looking, tempting item deep in
the vault. My death report showed that there were 3 artifacts I missed:
the shield protector, the fine leather armor, and the RING OF IMMUNITY.
Most of the monsters were very experienced, but acid ball was merciless
against them. I cleared the outside of the temple easily and gained a
level, so I decided I would take on the center.
I died when an emperor lich summoned a ridiculous amount of monsters
(enough to fill the vault!), I couldn't get close enough to ball him
(and arrows would also be useless), so I used bolts. He is IMMUNE to
bolts through shrugging. His confusion ignores a blessed amulet of free
action. Finally, he has an instakill death ray attack that killed me in
one hit. All of this on top of being "very experienced" due to the
vault and depth of the CoC.
I can't see how these things are beatable for normal, non scumming,
characters. Greater undead vaults ARE NOT HARD like people say. It's
only the EMPEROR that's hard. I don't know a single way to kill them
short of getting 96 willpower through archmage and very great ball
spells from the range boost. There's just no way a normal character can
beat them...
TB should make king lichs stronger. Their ease spoiled me and made me
think I could take on the emperor. And my crowned robes of resistance
spoiled me into not wearing the AMW. It's not fair.
Looking back, there were only a few more things I could have done. I
could have done bugville for some speed (after level 30, I don't think
levels matter so much anymore), even though I already had 7lbs. I could
have ran through the mana temple without my stuff and prayed through
the ceiling traps. I could have climbed mountains in the wilderness to
get to 100. I could have scummed wands for my mana battery corruption
and hope to get wish at the library. I could have gone blue dragon
hunting. I could have done so much more...
My next character might be a mindcrafter with melee and arrow backup. I
can't tolerate calculating where 18 range bolts are going to go and
pure melee is too hard.
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