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March 13, 2005 1:34:49 AM

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Hey all, Char info at the bottom of the post.(I cleaned it up a lot,
hope its easier to read now.)

Ive been trying to kill him with a wand of fireballs (wi:38)that i've
been recharging, but it just isnt doing enough damage(ive been losing
stats at a slow rate, so i need to kill quickly). I have a wand of
wishing with 5 charges, so essentially i can use any non artifact item
that you guys can think of.

Lost my two bows of accuracy to the ToEF, sad day.

P.S. please dont say to leave him alone, clearing a Greater Undead
Vault will be the only remarkable event in this game and id rather die
trying than win without doing it.




I hope google dosent mess this map up
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Note: the emperor Lich is 2 spaces down from my char the other
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ThurGar St:38 Le:45 Wi:38 Dx:27 To:46 Ch:21 Ap: 6 Ma:28
Pe:47 L+
DV/PV:147/30 H:439(439) P:159(180) Exp: 22/1837767 D: 26
Sp: 121
Blessed Invisible Coward
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Character Information
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ThurGar St:38 Le:45 Wi:38 Dx:27 To:46 Ch:21 Ap: 6 Ma:28
Pe:47 L+
DV/PV: 147/30 H: 439(439) P: 159(180) Exp: 22/1837767 M: 171257



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Background Information
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Name: ThurGar Race: male Dwarf Class: Barbarian
Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: tanned
Height: 4' Weight: 41 pounds
Age: 109 (grown-up, 40 years of unnatural aging added in)
Star sign: Book Birthday: 30/Book (day 60 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your father was an accomplished hunter and warrior. You were
well-respected and comparatively wealthy.
As a child you were very active and imitated the hunters and
warriors of your tribe at all opportunities.
During your youth you traveled to nearby tribes and traded with
them. You met many strangers and learned a lot about the outside
world.
As a young adult your family was killed in a raid. You became
embittered and filled with the desire for revenge.
At the age of 69 you left your tribe.


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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required
marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- -------------
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Unarmed fighting 7 +4 +3 +2 skilled 75
Daggers & knives 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15
Clubs & hammers 1 +1 +0 +0 basic 25
Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15
Swords 4 +3 +1 +1 skilled 70
Axes 2 +2 +1 +0 basic 6
Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15
Pole arms 14 +18 +11 +20 Mastery 11666
Twohanded weapons 2 +2 +2 +0 basic 30
Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 15

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required
marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- -------------
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Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Bows 9 +18 +13 +3 excellent 265
Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 5
Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7
Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 7

Shields Lvl DV Level Required
marks
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Shields 6 +12 skilled 125


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +31 bonus to hit, 2d8+20 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 20, base range: 2, +25 bonus to hit, 1d2+11 damage




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Spells
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Darkness : 105, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
Light : 9, 5pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Missile: 5, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)
Stun Ray : 6, 15pp (Effectivity: +0)


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Skills
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Athletics ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Bridge building .......... 5 (poor) [+4d4] (mr)
Climbing .................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Courage .................. 42 (fair) [+3d3]
Detect traps ............. 66 (good) [+1d5]
Dodge ....................100 (superb) [+2d4]
First aid ................ 91 (superb) [+1d5]
Haggling ................. 29 (mediocre) [+3d3]
Healing ..................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Herbalism ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Listening ................100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy ................. 95 (superb) [+1]
Metallurgy ............... 49 (fair) [+3d3]
Mining ...................100 (superb) [+1d3]
Smithing ................. 70 (good) [+1d3]
Stealth ..................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Survival ................. 49 (fair) [+4d5]
Swimming .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Two weapon combat ........ 61 (good) [+3d3]
Woodcraft ................ 52 (good) [+3d4]


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Effects of Corruption
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You have grown thorns (3d3 melee damage, Dx: -2, Ap: -3).
You have grown a bulging cranium (Le: +6, Wi: +4, Ap: -6, PV: -4, To:
-3).
You have become extremely thin and nimble (1/2 weight, DV: +6).


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Inventory
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Total weight: 6571 stones Carrying capacity: 11075 stones

Head : uncursed helm of mental stability [+2, +0] {Le+1} [100s]
Neck : uncursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
Body : uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]
Girdle: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]
Cloak : uncursed cloak of defense [+3, +0] [20s]
Right Hand: blessed eternium spear (+2, 2d8+8) [25s]
Left Hand : uncursed tower crystal shield (-2) [+13, +4] [260s]
Right Ring: uncursed ring of Immunity [1s]
Left Ring : blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
Bracers : uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+6} [10s]
Gauntlets : uncursed blue leather gauntlets [+3, +2] [10s]
Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
Missile weapon: -
Missiles: heap of 20 potions of holy water [80s]
Tool : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10}[100s]


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Stuff
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Total weight: 5852 stones Carrying capacity: 11075 stones

Helmets ('[')
uncursed silver helmet (+1, +1) [+0, +0] [50s]
heap of 2 uncursed helms of water breathing [+0, +1] [60s]
uncursed crown of ice [+2, +2] [65s]
Armor ('[') uncursed leather apron (-1, -1) [+0, +2] [75s]
Shields ('[') blessed large crystal shield (-1) [+10, +5] [210s]
Gauntlets ('[')
uncursed elemental gauntlets (-1, +0) [+0, +3] [10s]
uncursed thick gauntlets (-1, -2) [+0, +1] [15s]
Cloaks ('[')
uncursed cloak of defense [+3, +0] [20s]
uncursed cloak of protection [+0, +5] [20s]
Girdles ('[')
uncursed girdle of strength [+0, +0] {St+1} [15s]
Necklaces (''')
uncursed amulet of petrification resistance [3s]
heap of 2 blessed amulets of order [6s]
uncursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
uncursed ankh [3s]
blessed necklace of the eye [3s]
uncursed amulet of protection +5 [3s]
uncursed amulet of perseverance {Wi+3} [3s]
heap of 3 uncursed necklaces of rabies resistance [6s]
blessed amulet of defense +2 [3s]
uncursed amulet of protection +2 [3s]
uncursed amulet of protection from undead [3s]
heap of 2 blessed necklaces of rapid healing [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed amulets of light [9s]
blessed necklace of rabies resistance [2s]
uncursed amulet of free action [3s]
blessed amulet of perseverance {Wi+3} [3s]
heap of 3 uncursed necklaces of rapid healing [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of perseverance {Wi+3} [6s]
blessed amulet of greed [3s]
cursed necklace of rapid healing [2s]
uncursed brass amulet [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed amulets of balance [6s]
uncursed amulet of perseverance {Wi+3} [3s]
Bracers (',')
uncursed bracers of protection [+0, +2] [10s]
uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+4} [10s]
uncursed bracers of resistance [+0, +0] [10s]
One-handed weapons ('(')
dwarven pick axe "Hammerhead" (+2, 2d10+4) [+2, +2] {To+3}[90s]
uncursed mithril warhammer (+3, 2d3+3) [48s]
uncursed whip of weakness (-4, 1d3) [15s]
uncursed adamantium spear (+1, 1d8+5) [36s]
uncursed scourge (-3, 1d3+3) [25s]
blessed eternium dagger (+0, 2d4+7) [5s]
uncursed whip of thunder (-4, 1d3) [15s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 2 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6-2) [4s]
bundle of 89 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6) [178s]
bundle of 5 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+3) [10s]
bundle of 7 uncursed arrows (+2, 1d6) [14s]
bundle of 16 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6) [32s]
uncursed balanced arrow (+4, 1d6) [2s]
bundle of 18 uncursed arrows (+1, 1d6) [36s]
uncursed arrow (-2, 1d6+3) [2s]
uncursed arrow of hunting (+1, 1d6-3) [2s]
blessed arrow (+3, 1d6) [2s]
blessed arrow (+3, 1d6+3) [2s]
uncursed arrow of targeting (+8, 1d6) [2s]
bundle of 7 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6+2) [14s]
uncursed arrow of hunting (+0, 1d6) [2s]
blessed arrow (+1, 1d6+2) [2s]
uncursed arrow of targeting (+7, 1d6+2) [2s]
bundle of 7 uncursed arrows (+0, 1d6-1) [14s]
[snipped some] (blessed undead slayer arrows11)
Tools (']')
uncursed rusty round key [1s]
blessed fireproof blanket [10s]
uncursed broken square key [1s]
uncursed holy symbol [5s]
heap of 3 uncursed round [3s]
heap of 2 uncursed small keys [2s]
heap of 9 uncursed triangular keys [9s]
heap of 6 uncursed hexagonal keys [6s]
uncursed climbing set [180s]
blessed holy symbol [5s]
uncursed thieves picks [5s]
uncursed bandage [2s]
blessed tiny key [1s]
heap of 3 blessed waterproof blankets [30s]
heap of 2 uncursed tiny keys [2s]
heap of 5 uncursed waterproof blankets [50s]
uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Fire {St+10} [100s]
Rings ('=')
heap of 4 uncursed rings of defense +1 [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed rings of protection +1 [2s]
heap of 5 uncursed rings of stun resistance [5s]
blessed ring of speed [+0, +1] (+5 spd) [1s]
heap of 3 uncursed rings of damage [3s]
blessed brass ring [1s]
heap of 4 uncursed rings of searching [4s]
heap of 8 uncursed rings of acid resistance [8s]
heap of 5 uncursed rings of cold resistance [5s]
heap of 2 uncursed rings of luck [2s]
heap of 5 uncursed rings of the clear mind [5s]
heap of 3 uncursed wedding rings [3s]
blessed ring of damage [1s]
uncursed ring of teleport control [1s]
heap of 2 uncursed brass rings [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed rings of the fish [2s]
uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +2] {Le+1} [1s]
blessed ring of stun resistance [1s]
heap of 2 uncursed rings of see invisible [2s]
Wands ('\')
uncursed wand of ball lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of gold detection (6 charges) [6s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of trap creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of light (7 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of knocking (10 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (9 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (7 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (0 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of light (8 charges) [4s]
uncursed rusty wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of ball lightning (0 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of lightning (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of light (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (1 charge) [4s]
blessed wand of knocking (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (4 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (8 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of door creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of acid (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of light (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of trap creation (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (4 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of fireballs (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of teleportation (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of digging (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand o trap creation (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of wonder (1 charge) [3s]
blessed wand of lightning (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of earthquakes (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of paralyzation (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of acid (4 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of fire (4 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of digging (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed rusty wand of gold detection (1 charge) [6s]
uncursed wand of gold detection (5 charges) [6s]
uncursed wand of gold detection (5 charges) [6s]
blessed wand of digging (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of fire (0 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of gold detection (1 charge) [6s]
uncursed wand of acid (2 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of acid (4 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of ball lightning (7 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (4 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (2 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (8 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (1 charge) [3s]
blessed wand of far slaying (5 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of trap creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of far slaying (0 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of digging (8 charges) [3s]





!uncursed wand of wishing (5 charges) [3s]!

Yeah I know, I was shocked when this turned up in my inventory. My
first ever WoW too.

blessed wand of monster creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of cold (1 charge) [4s]
uncursed wand of door creation (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of digging (4 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of knocking (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of light (12 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of knocking (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of lightning (3 charges) [4s]
uncursed wand of monster creation (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of webbing (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of magic missiles (3 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of stunning (3 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of door creation (0 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of item detection (1 charge) [3s]
uncursed wand of acid (2 charges) [4s]
blessed wand of poison (7 charges) [3s]
blessed wand of trap detection (7 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of door creation (6 charges) [3s]
uncursed wand of fire (3 charges) [4s]
Potions ('!')


heap of 19 uncursed potions of booze [76s]

the fuel for my wand of fireballs


heap of 26 uncursed potions of invisibility [104s]
heap of 4 uncursed oils of rust removal [8s]
heap of 15 uncursed potions of healing [60s]
heap of 6 uncursed potions of training [12s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of poison [16s]
heap of 2 blessed potions of exchange [8s]
heap of 6 uncursed berzio potions [12s]
heap of 6 uncursed potions of balance [24s]
uncursed potion of raw mana [2s]
heap of 13 uncursed potions of cure poison [26s]
heap of 23 uncursed potions of carrot juice [92s]
heap of 6 uncursed potions of extra healing [12s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of blindness [4s]
heap of 9 uncursed potions of potential learning [36s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of stun recovery [4s]
heap of 2 blessed potions of balance [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of learning [8s]
uncursed potion of potential dexterity [4s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of insight [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of ultra healing [4s]
heap of 9 uncursed potions of potential charisma [36s]
heap of 2 blessed potions of invisibility [8s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of beauty [8s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of boost toughness [6s]
heap of 2 cursed potions of boostmana [4s]
blessed potion of boost dexterity [2s]
blessed potion of potential dexterity [4s]
uncursed potion of boost charisma [2s]
heap of 2 blessed potions of cure poison [4s]
heap of 4 blessed potions of extra healing [8s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of potential willpower [16s]
heap of 6 uncursed potions of exchange [24s]
heap of 4 uncursed potions of confusion [8s]
uncursed potion of boost speed [2s]
blessed potion of blindness [2s]
heap of 2 blessed potions of healing [8s]
heap of 3 blessed potions of carrot juice [12s]
heap of 3 uncursed potions of troll blood [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of youth [8s]
uncursed potion of longevity [4s]
uncursed potion of visibility [4s]
uncursed potion of potential strength [4s]
heap of 4 blessed potions of ultra healing [8s]
uncursed potion of boost perception [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed potions of boost learning [4s]
heap of 16 uncursed potions of water [64s]
blessed potion of beauty [4s]
uncursed potion of charisma [4s]
blessed potion of insight [2s]
uncursed potion of boost willpower [2s]
blessed potion of cure corruption [2s]
Scrolls ('?')
heap of 5 blessed scrolls of identify [10s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of amnesia [8s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of cure blindness [8s]
heap of 19 uncursed scrolls of power [38s]
blessed scroll of balance [2s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of item destruction [4s]
heap of 6 uncursed scrolls of satiation [12s]
blessed scroll of increase melee damage [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of light [6s]
heap of 9 uncursed scrolls of increase melee accuracy [18s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of teleportation [4s]
heap of 15 uncursed scrolls of uncursing [30s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of vermin control [8s]
heap of 9 uncursed scrolls of balance [18s]
heap of 5 uncursed scrolls of repair [10s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of increase melee damage [8s]
uncursed scroll of monster aggravation [2s]
heap of 5 uncursed scrolls of darkness [10s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of item detection [6s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of gold detection [6s]
uncursed scroll of peace [2s]
heap of 3 uncursed scrolls of great identify [6s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of treasure creation [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of ill fate [4s]
heap of 4 uncursed scrolls of protection [8s]
blessed scroll of amnesia [2s]
heap of 5 blessed scrolls of power [10s]
heap of 5 uncursed blank scrolls [10s]
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of increase melee accuracy [4s]
heap of 5 uncursed scrolls of dark predictions [10s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of charging [4s]
blessed scroll of satiation [2s]
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of light [4s]
heap of 2 uncursed scrolls of magic mapping [4s]
blessed blank scroll [2s]
heap of 30 uncursed scrolls of identify [60s]
heap of 2 blessed scrolls of uncursing [4s]
uncursed scroll of defense [2s]
Books ('"')
cursed spellbook of teleportation [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 4 uncursed herb seeds [8s]
heap of 17 uncursed bones [68s]
heap of 26 blessed moss patches of mareilon [52s]
heap of 18 uncursed burb roots [36s]
heap of 21 uncursed pepper petals [42s]
heap of 35 blessed pepper petals [70s]
heap of 22 blessed burb roots [44s]
heap of 33 blessed alraunia antidotes [66s]
heap of 25 blessed curaria mancox herbs [50s]
heap of 22 uncursed spenseweeds [44s]
heap of 24 uncursed curaria mancox herbs [48s]
heap of 26 blessed devil's roses [52s]
heap of 23 uncursed demon daisies [46s]
heap of 31 blessed demon daisies [62s]
heap of 21 uncursed devil's roses [42s]
heap of 6 blessed spenseweeds [12s]
heap of 7 uncursed stomacemptia herbs [14s]
heap of 3 uncursed stomafillia herbs [6s]
heap of 44 uncursed morgia roots [88s]
heap of 49 blessed morgia roots [98s]
heap of 13 uncursed alraunia antidotes [26s]
heap of 20 uncursed moss patches of mareilon [40s]
uncursed plant seed [2s]
heap of 2 blessed stomacemptia herbs [4s]
heap of 3 uncursed large rations [600s]
heap of 3 uncursed lumps of bee wax [15s]
uncursed dwarven sausage [20s]
Valuables ('$')
37295 gold [372s]
Gems ('*')
heap of 3 uncursed crystals of power [3s]
uncursed [1s]
uncursed worthless piece of red glass [1s]


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Killed Monsters
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10200 monsters perished under his attacks.

The following monsters were vanquished:
[Snip]

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Achievements
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He survived for 0 years, 57 days, 12 hours, 41 minutes and 1 second
(171257
turns).
3 companions were killed during his adventures.
ThurGar visited 76 places.
His strength score was modified by +14 during his career.
His learning score was modified by +25 during his career.
His willpower score was modified by +9 during his career.
His dexterity score was modified by +18 during his career.
His toughness score was modified by +18 during his career.
His charisma score was modified by +15 during his career.
His appearance score was modified by +15 during his career.
His mana score was modified by +20 during his career.
His perception score was modified by +33 during his career.
He was unnaturally aged by 40 years.
He saved Khelavaster from certain death.

More about : emperor lich kill

Anonymous
March 13, 2005 7:56:43 AM

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101 to hit 2d8+47 to damage on beserk
65 to hit 2d8+34 on normal
not too bad

"Where is tactics?"
Tactics is at least one, most likely 2-3 wishes away. The fist wish is
for a Shambling mound, the second and third are probably potions of
visibility. Unless there is an easier way to become visible that I
don't know about. Even with tactics I would still have to train it and
gaining levels with this guy is a huge pain.

"Two sources of death ray resistance?"
I am thinking it is along the same lines as fire resistance. When I
was fighting the Chaos Wyrm he almost killed me a couple of times with
his energy beam. People say that beam is a death ray, so I figured I
would put on a death ray necklace to fight the Emperor Lich. All i can
say is that I havent been injured more than a few points the whole time
ive been in the vault (despite what google shows im in a direct line
with the Emp Lich).
On that note, I haven't been paralyzed/confused at all so until I have
a reason to put one on I won't be wearing the amulet of free action.


"Wish time. A girdle of giant strength will be better for your guy,
since it will let him carry lots AND boost his damage in melee."

Why didn't I think of that, I will do that as soon as I start playing
this guy again.



All this talk of wishes makes me think, what damage does the Fire Orb
do when used? I have plenty of wishes to remove corruption.


Maybe

"OK, way number 1: Wish yourself up some long bows (of accuracy)
and some undead slaying ammo. Bless it. Kill the thing next to you
and lead the emperor lich into the corridor, then RUN! Get some
distance between you, and pepper it with undead slaying ammo..."

Maybe if the Fire Orb doesn't work out
Anonymous
March 13, 2005 1:24:28 PM

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> wishing with 5 charges, so essentially i can use any non artifact item
> that you guys can think of.

My first suggestion would have been spellbooks of acid ball to take
down an emperor lich, but I see you are playing a barbarian.

> Lost my two bows of accuracy to the ToEF, sad day.
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> P.S. please dont say to leave him alone, clearing a Greater Undead
> Vault will be the only remarkable event in this game and id rather die
> trying than win without doing it.
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> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Screenshot
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>
> Note: the emperor Lich is 2 spaces down from my char the other
> ######################################
> #........./......................[[..#
> #.##################################.#
> #$#............Z...@!..............#.#
> #.#..##############O#############..#.#
> #.#..# ZLL #[.#.#
> #.#..# LLLLL #..#%#
> #[#..# GZGLLGG #..#(##
> #.#..# . GGGGGGGGG #.%#*.#
> #.#..# .. GZrZZHCGZCZ #..#..#
> #.#..# .... GGGGzKKGGXd .. #..#..#
> #.#..# ..... GIGY.Tr.. ... #..#..#
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> #.################..*.##############.#
> #.....%[....[..........(..(../.[[[[(.#
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> ThurGar St:38 Le:45 Wi:38 Dx:27 To:46 Ch:21 Ap: 6 Ma:28 Pe:47 L+
> DV/PV:147/30 H:439(439) P:159(180) Exp: 22/1837767 D: 26 Sp: 121
> Blessed Invisible Coward

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Background Information
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Name: ThurGar Race: male Dwarf Class: Barbarian
> Eye color: brown Hair color: brown Complexion: tanned

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Weapon Skills
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ---------------------------
> Pole arms 14 +18 +11 +20 Mastery 11666

> Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ---------------------------
> Bows 9 +18 +13 +3 excellent 265

> Damage caused with your melee weapons:
> --------------------------------------
> Right hand: +31 bonus to hit, 2d8+20 damage

My-oh-my! This looks like a major problem. OK, so you are on coward atm,
but 2d8+20 damage is just not enough for being on D26. You are playing a
Barbarian! The effectiveness of your character depends almost totally on
being able to deal big damage in melee (and also to some extent missiles).

I think spears were a poor choice of weapon. Sure, they give great DV
bonus, and for that reason they are very good for casters along with a
shield, but for a barbarian they just do not deal enough damage, short
of a nice 2H one like the TotRR. Unless you are going for an ultra end
ofc, but you appear to be already crowned lawful, so I guess not unless
you have the chaos artifacts stashed somewhere.

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Skills
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Swimming .................100 (superb) [+1d5]
> Two weapon combat ........ 61 (good) [+3d3]
> Woodcraft ................ 52 (good) [+3d4]

Where is tactics?

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Inventory
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Total weight: 6571 stones Carrying capacity: 11075 stones
>
> Head : uncursed helm of mental stability [+2, +0] {Le+1} [100s]
> Neck : uncursed amulet of death ray resistance [7s]
> Body : uncursed ancient mummy wrapping [+1, +5] {Ap-8} [60s]

Two sources of death ray resistance? Does this actually help at all,
anyone know? And even if it does, get that amulet off RIGHT NOW and
get an amulet of free action on instead. You currently have no way
to resist paralyzation that I can see, and higher lichs are capable
of causing it. If you need more death ray resistance, I spotted some
bracers of resistance in your stuff.

> Girdle: blessed girdle of carrying [+0, +0] [15s]

Wish time. A girdle of giant strength will be better for your guy,
since it will let him carry lots AND boost his damage in melee.

> Cloak : uncursed cloak of defense [+3, +0] [20s]
> Right Hand: blessed eternium spear (+2, 2d8+8) [25s]
> Left Hand : uncursed tower crystal shield (-2) [+13, +4] [260s]
> Right Ring: uncursed ring of Immunity [1s]
> Left Ring : blessed ring of the High Kings [+2, +3] [1s]
> Bracers : uncursed bracers of toughness [+0, +0] {To+6} [10s]
> Gauntlets : uncursed blue leather gauntlets [+3, +2] [10s]
> Boots : blessed seven league boots [+1, +0] [30s]
> Missile weapon: -
> Missiles: heap of 20 potions of holy water [80s]
> Tool : uncursed Chaos Orb of Elemental Water {Wi+10}[100s]

Anyway, enough commenting on the general problems :p  On to how to
kill that lich.

As a barbarian, we can pretty much forget about spells. Wands are
not powerful enough, so that leaves melee and missiles. Trying
melee against an emperor lich is a good way to get all your stats
to 1 in no time flat, so missiles look like your only option.

The way I see it, there are two ways you can go about this. The
first is riskier but faster, the second is more likely to succeed,
but will take a little preparation.

OK, way number 1: Wish yourself up some long bows (of accuracy)
and some undead slaying ammo. Bless it. Kill the thing next to you
and lead the emperor lich into the corridor, then RUN! Get some
distance between you, and pepper it with undead slaying ammo. When
it summons things that get in the way of shooting at it, you may
want to kill them by other means (melee, regular missiles, wands)
rather than use your precious undead slaying ammo. Whenever there
is nothing next to you, be on Beserk for firing your missiles.

Way number 2, a slight variation on the first. Teleport the hell
out of there, direct to the stair so it won't move much. Go and
get tactics, and wish yourself up Archery. Get some decent bows,
train your bow skill a little more, and also try to get Archery
to 100. Rings of slaying could also be helpful. Once you are more
prepared, with a formidable undead slaying missile attack, then
go back and teleport back in, and proceed like with method 1.

HTH!
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Anonymous
March 13, 2005 5:05:10 PM

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jhornaday@juno.com wrote:

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> 101 to hit 2d8+47 to damage on beserk
> 65 to hit 2d8+34 on normal
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Not great, though. Wait till you get to the Earth Temple; that won't
even scratch anything. If you've got any (hill) orcish vaults or tension
rooms lying around, you should definitely scum for a good orcish spear
(namely, "of devastation" or, failing that, "of penetration"). And no,
you can't wish for ego weapons, unfortunately.

> "Where is tactics?"
> Tactics is at least one, most likely 2-3 wishes away. The fist wish is
> for a Shambling mound, the second and third are probably potions of
> visibility. Unless there is an easier way to become visible that I
> don't know about.

The only other way is pool drinking, unfortunately. If you happen to
have ready means to reverse any negative effects, you may want to try it.

Alternatively, you could wish for Tactics directly. That'll save you a
couple of wishes for later. Wishing for a shambling mound or potions of
visibility should be last-ditch.

> "Two sources of death ray resistance?"
> I am thinking it is along the same lines as fire resistance. When I
> was fighting the Chaos Wyrm he almost killed me a couple of times with
> his energy beam. People say that beam is a death ray, so I figured I
> would put on a death ray necklace to fight the Emperor Lich. All i can
> say is that I havent been injured more than a few points the whole time
> ive been in the vault (despite what google shows im in a direct line
> with the Emp Lich).
> On that note, I haven't been paralyzed/confused at all so until I have
> a reason to put one on I won't be wearing the amulet of free action.

No no no. That's the perfect way to get yourself killed. Put on the
amulet of free action. Believe me, lesser opponents have taken down my
advanced PCs using paralyzation. After all, the collective wisdom of
r.g.r.a. should be a good enough reason.

> All this talk of wishes makes me think, what damage does the Fire Orb
> do when used? I have plenty of wishes to remove corruption.

I would imagine it would give about 2-3 corruptions (if it's anything
like the Mana Orb, at least). I wouldn't touch it. Even if it does cause
more damage than a standard fireball, it'll still take several uses to
defeat an emperor lich.

You really should stick with Stephen's advice and use undead slaying
arrows. If you happen to have any humanoid slayers or the generic "of
slaying" arrows, you can use those as well, though undead slayers are
the best bet.

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Anonymous
March 13, 2005 11:54:55 PM

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>> his energy beam. People say that beam is a death ray, so I figured I
>> would put on a death ray necklace to fight the Emperor Lich.

No, that beam isn't a death ray. Besides, I doubt that multiple source
of death ray resistance stack. None of the intrinsics are known to
stack; the only exception is fire resistance for the purposes of ToEF
background heat. (For any other purpose, such as monsters breathing
fire, fire resistance has been reported not to stack, either.)

> No no no. That's the perfect way to get yourself killed. Put on the
> amulet of free action. Believe me, lesser opponents have taken down my
> advanced PCs using paralyzation. After all, the collective wisdom of
> r.g.r.a. should be a good enough reason.

Seconded. Facing a paralyzing monster without paralyzation resistance
even though it is available is silly.

Malte
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 1:58:01 AM

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>> visibility. Unless there is an easier way to become visible that I
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> The only other way is pool drinking, unfortunately. If you happen to
> have ready means to reverse any negative effects, you may want to try it.
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> couple of wishes for later. Wishing for a shambling mound or potions of
> visibility should be last-ditch.

If I'm not mistaken, you get Tactics for giving the Golden Gladius to
the one barbarian guy in the bar at Dwarftown... this would save you
from having to use a wish or pool.
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 2:46:26 AM

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>> have ready means to reverse any negative effects, you may want to try it.
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>> couple of wishes for later. Wishing for a shambling mound or potions
>> of visibility should be last-ditch.
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> the one barbarian guy in the bar at Dwarftown... this would save you
> from having to use a wish or pool.

The problem, however, is that jhornaday has intrinsic invisibility. I
guess this fact got lost in the mix since it was never mentioned
explicitly in the thread. Two or three wishes would have to be used just
to get the gladius: one for a shambling mound to satisfy the elder's
first (or second) quest, and one or two more for potions of visibility
in order to fight 20 times in the Arena (Dak doesn't let you in if
you're invisible). In a situation like that, you can either use the
wishes like that, hunt for the shambling mound and go on a pool drinking
binge hoping for the best, or just wish for Tactics directly.

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March 14, 2005 4:16:30 AM

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Hey all,

Wondering if anyone can suggest how to deal with a dwarven barbarian on
DL26.

Screenshot below:
> ######################################
> #........./......................[[..#
> #.##################################.#
> #$#............Z...@!..............#.#
> #.#..##############O#############..#.#
> #.#..# ZLL #[.#.#
> #.#..# LLLLL #..#%#
> #[#..# GZGLLGG #..#(##
> #.#..# . GGGGGGGGG #.%#*.#
> #.#..# .. GZrZZHCGZCZ #..#..#
> #.#..# .... GGGGzKKGGXd .. #..#..#
> #.#..# ..... GIGY.Tr.. ... #..#..#
> #.#..#....... ..gZG.... .....#..#[.#
> .............. ........... ...........#
> #.#.......... ........... ........#.##
> #.################..*.##############.#
> #.....%[....[..........(..(../.[[[[(.#
> ##################.]#################

He is the '@' two spaces above me.

Annoyingly, he keeps zapping me with fireballs and running away. Each
one does not do much damage, but he never seems to run out of them.
Also, I am surrounded by other 'L's and do not have room to manoeuvre.

What do you recommend to take him out. I thought I might paralyse him,
but what are the chances that he would not have paralysation resistance
at this depth. Have considered meleeing him but he's probably much too
tough.

Any suggestions appreciated,

Emperor Znurg the Undying ("L")
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 5:52:06 AM

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Antoine wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Wondering if anyone can suggest how to deal with a dwarven barbarian
on
> DL26.
>
> Screenshot below:
> > ######################################
> > #........./......................[[..#
> > #.##################################.#
> > #$#............Z...@!..............#.#
> > #.#..##############O#############..#.#
> > #.#..# ZLL #[.#.#
> > #.#..# LLLLL #..#%#
> > #[#..# GZGLLGG #..#(##
> > #.#..# . GGGGGGGGG #.%#*.#
> > #.#..# .. GZrZZHCGZCZ #..#..#
> > #.#..# .... GGGGzKKGGXd .. #..#..#
> > #.#..# ..... GIGY.Tr.. ... #..#..#
> > #.#..#....... ..gZG.... .....#..#[.#
> > .............. ........... ...........#
> > #.#.......... ........... ........#.##
> > #.################..*.##############.#
> > #.....%[....[..........(..(../.[[[[(.#
> > ##################.]#################
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> He is the '@' two spaces above me.
>
> Annoyingly, he keeps zapping me with fireballs and running away. Each
> one does not do much damage, but he never seems to run out of them.
> Also, I am surrounded by other 'L's and do not have room to
manoeuvre.
>
> What do you recommend to take him out. I thought I might paralyse
him,
> but what are the chances that he would not have paralysation
resistance
> at this depth. Have considered meleeing him but he's probably much
too
> tough.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Emperor Znurg the Undying ("L")

Neck : uncursed amulet of free action
[3s]
Missile weapon: uncursed short bow of accuracy (+8, +0)
[20s]
Is everybody happy now?
I even wished for tactics.
I will keep spears for now though, no sense in using a weapon with no
skill when ill just use undead slaying arrows anyway.
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 4:26:44 PM

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Antoine wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Wondering if anyone can suggest how to deal with a dwarven barbarian on
> DL26.
>
> Screenshot below:
>> ######################################
>> #........./......................[[..#
>> #.##################################.#
>> #$#............Z...@!..............#.#
>> #.#..##############O#############..#.#
>> #.#..# ZLL #[.#.#
>> #.#..# LLLLL #..#%#
>> #[#..# GZGLLGG #..#(##
>> #.#..# . GGGGGGGGG #.%#*.#
>> #.#..# .. GZrZZHCGZCZ #..#..#
>> #.#..# .... GGGGzKKGGXd .. #..#..#
>> #.#..# ..... GIGY.Tr.. ... #..#..#
>> #.#..#....... ..gZG.... .....#..#[.#
>> .............. ........... ...........#
>> #.#.......... ........... ........#.##
>> #.################..*.##############.#
>> #.....%[....[..........(..(../.[[[[(.#
>> ##################.]#################
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> He is the '@' two spaces above me.
>
> Annoyingly, he keeps zapping me with fireballs and running away. Each
> one does not do much damage, but he never seems to run out of them.
> Also, I am surrounded by other 'L's and do not have room to manoeuvre.
>
> What do you recommend to take him out. I thought I might paralyse him,
> but what are the chances that he would not have paralysation resistance
> at this depth. Have considered meleeing him but he's probably much too
> tough.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Emperor Znurg the Undying ("L")

Do you have a wand of trap/web? He'll probably try to use a hit and run
tactic, so just set up some traps on the path he is must likely to flee
to. But wait untill he leaves the level, so he doesn't see you.
You could also try to wish for a female barbarian, he will find her most
likely very attractive and they will head off to a quiet place ...

God luck (are you going for the Avatar Of Order Ending?)

--
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Anonymous
March 14, 2005 4:37:21 PM

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jhornaday@juno.com wrote:

> Neck : uncursed amulet of free action
> [3s]
> Missile weapon: uncursed short bow of accuracy (+8, +0)
> [20s]
> Is everybody happy now?

It's not about whether or not we're happy. It's about whether you want
to avoid getting your ass served up on a silver platter. After all, you
asked the initial question.

I feel like having Szechuan squid all of a sudden.

> I even wished for tactics.
> I will keep spears for now though, no sense in using a weapon with no
> skill when ill just use undead slaying arrows anyway.

But of course. It's your prerogative.

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Anonymous
March 14, 2005 6:09:27 PM

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"Antoine" <mail@guildgame.com> wrote in
news:1110791790.608596.45020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Hey all,
>
> Wondering if anyone can suggest how to deal with a dwarven barbarian on
> DL26.
>
> Screenshot below:
>> ######################################
>> #........./......................[[..#
>> #.##################################.#
>> #$#............Z...@!..............#.#
>> #.#..##############O#############..#.#
>> #.#..# ZLL #[.#.#
>> #.#..# LLLLL #..#%#
>> #[#..# GZGLLGG #..#(##
>> #.#..# . GGGGGGGGG #.%#*.#
>> #.#..# .. GZrZZHCGZCZ #..#..#
>> #.#..# .... GGGGzKKGGXd .. #..#..#
>> #.#..# ..... GIGY.Tr.. ... #..#..#
>> #.#..#....... ..gZG.... .....#..#[.#
>> .............. ........... ...........#
>> #.#.......... ........... ........#.##
>> #.################..*.##############.#
>> #.....%[....[..........(..(../.[[[[(.#
>> ##################.]#################
>
> He is the '@' two spaces above me.
>
> Annoyingly, he keeps zapping me with fireballs and running away. Each
> one does not do much damage, but he never seems to run out of them.
> Also, I am surrounded by other 'L's and do not have room to manoeuvre.
>

Don't worry about this: you do have the ability to heal yourself
completely.

> What do you recommend to take him out. I thought I might paralyse him,
> but what are the chances that he would not have paralysation resistance
> at this depth. Have considered meleeing him but he's probably much too
> tough.
>

I would suggest just keeping on summoning help - if you can keep him boxed
in and busy you can wait him out: you are after all unageing and he, as a
dwarf, can only live for half a millenia or so. Time is on your side.

> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Emperor Znurg the Undying ("L")
>
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 5:32:48 AM

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Suggestion 1: Wish for maces of disruption and use the best one (they
have undead slaying property)
Suggestion 2: Leave it be and return later, lvl 50 should not be too
late :) 
Suggestion 3: Use amulet of free action. They grant death ray
resistance among other things
Suggestion 4: Might work. Wish for whips of slaughtering and use them.
They have +Critical property
Suggestion 5: Might work. Wish for phase daggers and use them. They
bypass PV like claw bugs
Suggestion 5: Okay, I dont know if it work but I read somewhere that
you can kill most monster by summonning the banshee.

All of the above are just suggestions. Dont blame me for anything.
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 2:21:26 PM

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snakeFromBeyond wrote:

> Suggestion 1: Wish for maces of disruption and use the best one (they
> have undead slaying property)

He could, but he has high level skill in polearms, and none in maces.
Plus emperor lichs are VERY, VERY nasty stat drainers, getting into
melee range is a bad idea.

> Suggestion 2: Leave it be and return later, lvl 50 should not be too
> late :) 

A good idea.

> Suggestion 3: Use amulet of free action. They grant death ray
> resistance among other things

No, they do not. Amulets of free action grant resistance to being
paralyzed, and nothing else.

> Suggestion 4: Might work. Wish for whips of slaughtering and use them.
> They have +Critical property

True, they do. But see #1. No skill, and melee range is bad.

> Suggestion 5: Might work. Wish for phase daggers and use them. They
> bypass PV like claw bugs

No point. Emperor Lichs are not famed for having massive PV.

> Suggestion 5: Okay, I dont know if it work but I read somewhere that
> you can kill most monster by summonning the banshee.

True, you can. Not sure if she can kill undead though, and probably
not high end greater undead like this even if she can.
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 2:21:27 PM

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<a few interesting suggestions snipped>

Just a weird idea:
I don't have much experience with Emperor Liches(en?), but has anyone tried
lobbing potions of holy water/healing at them? How good is the effect?
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 8:52:26 PM

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>> Suggestion 5: Okay, I dont know if it work but I read somewhere that you
>> can kill most monster by summonning the banshee.
>
> True, you can. Not sure if she can kill undead though, and probably not
> high end greater undead like this even if she can.

IIRC, she can't kill anything that can resist bolts.
Anonymous
March 16, 2005 4:23:54 AM

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Arkady Zilberberg wrote:
> <a few interesting suggestions snipped>
>
> Just a weird idea:
> I don't have much experience with Emperor Liches(en?), but has anyone
tried
> lobbing potions of holy water/healing at them? How good is the
effect?

Yeah i tried it a couple of times, all i can say is I used 3-4 potions
and the lich was still standing.
Anonymous
March 17, 2005 10:17:06 AM

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One more suggestion (If you are not yet finished with it or
alternatively, was finished by it). Try throwing potions of exchange,
sickness, confusion at him (if there are any by now.)
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 3:34:26 AM

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> Ive been trying to kill him with a wand of fireballs (wi:38)that i've
> been recharging, but it just isnt doing enough damage(ive been losing
> stats at a slow rate, so i need to kill quickly). I have a wand of
> wishing with 5 charges, so essentially i can use any non artifact
item
> that you guys can think of.
>
> Lost my two bows of accuracy to the ToEF, sad day.
>
> P.S. please dont say to leave him alone, clearing a Greater Undead
> Vault will be the only remarkable event in this game and id rather
die
> trying than win without doing it.

First of all, don't listen to the spear haters. You made the right
choice and you have an excellent weapon! Barbarians are awesome with
spears. They have great defence and do adequate damage. For the rare
time when you must do massive damage, there's always the tremendous
blow option. I once killed the ACW in one hit with my drakeling spear
barb with wyrmlance (tremendous)!

For ELs, it's best just to run. Seriously. They are not worth your time
unless you are absolutely great with bows or have acid ball at a very,
very high level. If you must try to kill him, get him weakened up some
and try to finish him off with a tremendous blow (he WILL heal back up
unless you kill him very quickly). I would recommend coming back later.
It's best to fight an out of depth monster with an out of depth level.
:p 
!