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Nvidia gtx 480 sli or ati 5870 xfire (mobile gpu)

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November 16, 2010 10:37:08 AM

Well i have 2 laptops choices to buy with almost the same price and specs but differs in video cards, one is with nvidia gtx 480 sli and the other one ati 5870 in crossfire. I have seen reviews that gtx 480 sli performs better but has high temps compared to ati, and they said the difference is marginal, i need help for opinions for the two cards and my general goal is to see who performs better.

Also i notice that some guys tend to say that 460 sli is better than 480 sli, is it true?
a c 244 D Laptop
November 16, 2010 10:55:11 AM

GTX 480 performs better than 2 5870s but have more power consumption,and are more noisier.
And no,2 460's perform slower than 2 480s
November 17, 2010 11:09:00 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Maziar, can you please forward a link for sager np7280 reviews? i hope they found a small remedy for the heating issues of their np7280 because it can also feature dual gtx 480
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November 17, 2010 11:09:55 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Maziar, can you please forward a link for sager np7280 reviews? i hope they found a small remedy for the heating issues of their np7280 because it can also feature dual gtx 480
a b D Laptop
November 17, 2010 11:14:49 AM

I would say go with 5870 CF simply because of excellent power consumption on the other hand GTX480 eats too much power plus produces alot of heat as said by Maziar
a c 244 D Laptop
November 18, 2010 10:54:14 AM

reaversedge said:
Thanks for the quick reply Maziar, can you please forward a link for sager np7280 reviews? i hope they found a small remedy for the heating issues of their np7280 because it can also feature dual gtx 480

There you go
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/malibal-nine-x7200-...
November 18, 2010 11:39:05 AM

In comparison by raw gaming performance what margin does 2 480 over 2 5870?
a c 244 D Laptop
November 18, 2010 1:06:03 PM

2 480s are about 20% faster.If you need something with lower power consumption/heat and a little less performance,go with 2 GTX 460Ms(Clevo X7200 can be configured with them)
November 18, 2010 1:42:14 PM

they also offered with 2 480/460 configuration, will it run much cooler compared to 2 480? and also what's the performace difference between the two. Marginal?

I opted for arctic silver compound for both gpu and cpu, also a notebook cooler, i can stand the power consumption, but im finding a way to at least reduce the heat if possible in safe levels and granted it is a laptop.
a c 244 D Laptop
November 18, 2010 5:07:38 PM

GTX 460M performs pretty much like 5870M(a little slower)so its roughly 15-25%(depending on the game) slower than 2 480Ms but they run significantly cooler
November 19, 2010 6:45:07 AM

Im just wondering if there's a way to reduce the heating of 2 480s, if there's no real way, i think i will just go to 2 5870 if there's no possibility to cool at least a bit of the 2 480s, i really max the performance due to the high resolutions i play so its either 2 480s or 5870 xfire.
a c 244 D Laptop
November 19, 2010 12:16:18 PM

A laptop cooler may help in reducing temps with the cost of higher noise.2 5870Ms are better options in terms of performance/power consumption
November 20, 2010 7:55:58 AM

noise is omitted because i usually play with earphone, power consumption is omitted because im out travelling and stay somewhere like a hotel. alienware m17x (5870cf) and sager np7280 (2 480s) are two of my choices.

Alienware m17x
Processor 920m
ram 8 gb
HD 1 Tb

Sager np7280 (xoticpc)
Processor 950m
ram 6gb
HD 500 gb

both at in reasonable prices. Now only tech support.
a c 244 D Laptop
November 20, 2010 8:06:49 AM

If noise/power consumption are no issues,go with NP7280.It has a much better price/performance ratio than M17x.And XoticPC support is quite good.
November 27, 2010 5:30:16 AM

i just took a quick check, now (by notebookcheck source) now 2 460s outperform the 5870cf? i thought 5870 is on par with 470 which is superior than 460...
a c 244 D Laptop
November 27, 2010 6:17:10 AM

It depends.
In some games,SLI scales better than CF,so 2 460Ms outperform 2 5870Ms
November 27, 2010 9:42:08 AM

right now im taking up new games like sniper, fallout new vegas and some new dx11 games, im not sure which video card has better support between the two, they said nvidia is a winner in general...
a c 244 D Laptop
November 27, 2010 2:01:21 PM

Between SLI GTX 460 and 5870 CF,I would go with the first option because in some games,they beat 2 5870s;furthermore,they run cooler and quieter and as a result you'll have more battery life.
November 28, 2010 10:06:57 AM

how about the performace difference of 2 460s and 2 480? i really like the raw performance of this 2 480s but theres that heat drawback, i also read some reviews that i should have a good psu so if the heat exceeds the limit the processor will slow down (sorry if im mistaken im still a noob in tech terms)

also will upgrading the processor (i7 950 is clevo's default to i7 980xm) will at least affect the fps of gaming or it helps a bit (excluding loading times)?
a c 244 D Laptop
November 28, 2010 12:52:54 PM

Going for 950 to 980 won't give you a noticeable boost in performance,because there are barely any games that benefit from more than 4 cores.
November 30, 2010 5:59:24 PM

Maziar, i found some benchies for xf and sli, does dual gpu configuration has advantage on most game? like the reviews i saw here in tom's hardware, but there is also some rumors about microstutters, so does those fps stated in some benches the game is smooth and solid throughout the test? they dont experience microstuttering at all?
December 2, 2010 11:02:51 PM

That's strange, in TH reviews of comparison of sli and cf compared to their single card counterpart the fps is always higher like a bar graph presentation (forgot the link but i saw it somewhere) i had to pull the trigger in this one soon. This is my laptop verdict

1x Sager NP7280 Custom Laptop (Built on the Clevo X7200)

- Display: 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080)-
- Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-950 (3.06-3.33GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366
- Thermal Compound: - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Graphics Video Card: SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 2048MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 480M's (4096MB Total) w/GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable)
- External Display Video Adapters: No Video Adapter
- Ram: ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS)
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid (Serial-ATA II 300 - 32MB Cache)
- Second Hard Drive: None Standard -
- Third Hard Drive: None Standard -
- Raid: HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- Back Up Software: No Back Up Software
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Wireless Network: Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Integrated Digital Video Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Battery: Primary Smart Li-ION Battery Pack - Included
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse

Please leave comments on my configuration, i concentrated on upgrading the gpu since i only use it when i travel and game, i dont mind the weight and battery life since i go from place to place like a city. The only major problem now is the heat, i have a good notebook cooler here at home and applied thermal compounds on gpu and cpu, i dont know if there is anything more i could do to reduce the heat produced by this laptop.
a c 244 D Laptop
December 3, 2010 12:35:14 PM

Looks a killer laptop, go for it
December 3, 2010 10:47:17 PM

thanks Maziar, im sorry to go a little bit out of topic, now im looking for the best laptop cooling fan there is.

I dont care about the noise, power, weight, price, looks of the cooler, as long as its fitting a 17" laptop and the with a good (hopefully best, i think) cooling solution it can offer so far up to this date.
December 4, 2010 11:22:46 PM

I did some additional research on x7200 actually its not the heating that is the major problem of the first owners to have x7200, it is indeed i saw one of the forums one owner has a defective (or limited) psu, he was running some benchies and it tripped. somehow the bench stressed both gpu and cpu totally. The psu rating is only 300w (and with a fail safe to 340w i think) and granted the laptop is the best, provided that it should have a better or higher psu limit so it can be pushed harder with i7 extreme processors and the highly demanding 2 480s. So i inquired xoticpc if they can include a psu with a higher rating. This laptop will be bought mostly like enthusiasts like me and loves to OC alot and push their rig to its limits. Some resellers were taking up the psu issue with Clevo and hopefully there will be action.
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