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Pat Kelly wrote:
> Josh Singh wrote:
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>>>>I suspect it might be difficult to stay
>>>>neutral in the later stages of the game (unless you kill an equal
>>>>amount of lawfuls)...
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>>>One should think so; yet I've never had any problems here. Even
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> clearing
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>>>the Mana Temple *and* D50 does squat to your alignment. Either the
>>>alignment bonus from killing is insignificant on higher levels, or
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> it is
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>>>insignificant for non-lawfuls, or it is insignificant altogether.
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>>Seconded. I don't play with the Law skill very often (i.e. never) but
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>>have played plenty of crowned neutrals, and none of them have had
>>trouble so much as pushing N+ in the late game. Since most monsters
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>>the game are chaotic, I would imagine lawful boosts for slaying them,
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> if
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>>any, are restricted to greater undead, greater demons and big-tymer
>>chaos beings, and you encounter plenty of those in the endgame
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> without
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>>suffering an alignment blast. Heck, there are plenty of balors on
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> D:50
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>>(and they're definitely among the greatest of demons given the
>>experience they're worth), but when you get through them all, you'll
>>still be N= (or whatever you started with, you know). Any boost is
>>insignificant, at least for neutrals.
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> I play with the law skill a lot of the time (I always end up completing
> both of the sheriff's quests on PCs that live for a long time), and I
> can say that the lawful boost is significant in the mid game, at least.
> I've had PCs dig up "great treasures" graves around level 20, get their
> alignment kicked down to L for the digging, but easily brought back to
> L+ by slaying the [foo] lich and its cohorts. Steel golems, grues,
> dragons, and elementals have given lawful boosts, so it they aren't
> limited to undead and demons alone, as far as I know.
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> All of these PCs were lawful, so perhaps the boost is greater for
> lawful PCs?
I was playing an LN PC just below Dwarftown recently. She ran into a
blink dog in a tension room and couldn't get away without dipping to NL.
(It was my coin-chucking merchant FWIW.) After getting back to the
temple and saccing 10 gold, she immediately converted to L. She was a
born Book.
So it seems to me that the whole lawful alignment thing is a tad broken.
It's already been discovered that the alignment aspect of Unicorn does
the opposite of what it's supposed to; perhaps there's trouble with the
other star signs as well. Or perhaps it's lawful alignment more
generally. (I don't have the time or will to test this right now.)
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