AMD vs. Pentium
I'm planning to build my first computer. However, I don't know which processor I should get. Anyway, I need advice for the best performance processor from you guys. Thanks a lot!
Then read earlier posts. Sorry, but I think most folks a burnt out on the constant same arguments. For 3000 dollars though making a good p4 based computer would be a little harder, but not imposible. Go to www.pricewatch.com and start shopping. Personally I'd look for a fast(800mhz+) p3 or Athlon/thunderbird chip. Asus/abit motherboard for either, or intel boards are ok too for intel chips. Both chips perform very well and both are relatively cheap though amd chips cost less. If you do decide you need a p4 wait until the next version comes out. It will have problems corrected as well as an upgrade future. For specifics though read all the 50 million posts on the matter. Don't be so lazy- read through the board.
"Are you saying that I can dodge bullets?"
hehe, I just saw the title of the thread and shivers went down my back... flashback: oh no, not again!
still, there's this irresistable urge, and I finally clicked and read the thread... luckily, no casualties yet:)
Only a matter of time, or are we maturing (or as people pointed out, simply worn out of the AMD/Intel/P4 ramble)?
Go for a TRS 80 from radio shack
This thing rocks!
its a pre-built system
64kb of RAM running at over 1mhz
you also get a monitor and a keyboard
oh and you will never have to worry about hard drive swapping - it doesn't have one!
i think you can even play games on it if you hook up a casset player
You don't hear much about this baby on the forums but that's because its owners are busy computing and not tweeking - just shows how stable it is.
here we go again!
get the latest Athlon (thats 1.2 GHz as of now), a superb socketA board (Asus A7V or Abit KT7/Raid), lots of RAM, one of the best video cards, the GeForce GTS or so, the latest 40G+ ATA/100 hard drive and other things. After you have built this system you will have enough money to get one more reasonable K6 machine.
this wont happen with a P-4.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it really doesn't matter. 1.5ghz Pentium 4, or 1.2ghz thunderbird, tripped out with all the best hardware, gobs of ram, trick perepherials. It REALLY doesn't matter. Not only are both of these processors faster than you are, but in the end, it really starts coming down to your other hardware and perepherals.
1.2ghz Thunderbird w/64 MB no name ram, Savage 3D, 13.2 gig Maxtor, 14" display... 650 Duron w/256 MB mushkin, Geforce 2 Ultra, 75GB IBM 75GXP, 21" Flat Display.
I would have to go with the Duron.
Thanks for the advices! After I did all the research, I decided to go with AMD (which a lot cheaper than the Intel). BTW, are you sure the new 1.2ghz thunderbird fits with the abit k7 raid. Anyway, i already got the list for it. Here goes!
Abit, KT7 Raid $155.39 DKNYPC.com
AMD, Athlon Thunderbird K7 1GHZ $190.69 Computer Craft
I wanna get the Athlon 1.2GHZ now since you guys suggest it.
I NEED SUGGESTION
Generic, PC133 256MB SDRAM $78.69 Computer Craft, Inc.
Maxtor, DiamondMax 80G 5400RPM Ultra ATA/100 EIDE $257.00 The Computer Center
Plextor, PlexWriter 12x/10x/32x EIDE $214.00 essencom.com
Pioneer, 16x DVD/40x CD $90.95 Royal Computer
Iomega, Zip 250MB Ext/USB $155.57 west-tech.com
Guillemot, 3D Prophet II GeForce 2 GTS PRO 64MB $314.68 computerhq.com
Gainward, CardExpert GeForce2 MX 32mb $110.37 west-tech.com
Enlight, MidTower ATX 7237 300W PS Dual Fans $72.86 Belka.com
Logitech, Cordless ITouch Keyboard $58.95 Software and Stuff
Microsoft, IntelliMouse Explorer USB Mouse $48.90 Power Start Computer
Logitech, Cordless Mouseman Wheel PS2 $45.00 or $54.52 PC Xperts 800-666-7551 or PCSTOP.com (phone order must mention pricewatch.com)
ViewSonic, EF70 17 inches Color $287.44 computerhq.com
Total Cost @$2000.00
I hate to say this but I have never built a system before so I really need your help. Therefore, don't laugh if I ask stupid questions. Thanks in advance!
PS: Am I missing something? If so please point it out for me! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! =)
No, continue with your plan, but here are a few suggestions:
Get some Crucial RAM, not Generic (www.crucial.com)
Go for the IBM Deskstar 75GB 7400rpm ata100 drive instead of the Maxtor. It's got almost the same space, but much faster and more reliable. Also get a new sound card, try the Sound Blaster LIVE! X-Gamer (If your into games, and if you're not go for the LIVE! MP3+ or Platinum).
Also get the GeForce2 GTS PRO, not the MX.
One last thing; get a Yamaha 16/10/40 CD-RW instead of the Plextor one (Same price and faster)
here's what you should do...everything is compatible
everything marker w/ asterisk (*) i own either exactly as i have listed or some version of it
Case: that enlight is fine...just make sure you get AT LEAST 300W power supply.
*1.2 GHz T-Bird-anywhere
256MB Crucial RAM-www.crucial.com
Abit KT7 RAID
2x IBM Desktar 75GXP 30GB (RAID them...better performance than just 1 big HD-besides, nobody needs more than 30-35GB for typical desktop)
*Plextor 12/10/32A IDE (i don't trust Yamaha...lmao)
*Pioneer 16x/40x DVD tray load
*don't forget the wonderful $10 any brand floppy drive...lmao
Elsa Gladiac Ultra(GeForce2 GTS Ultra)
Philips Acoustic Edge (it REALLY is better than SBLive!)
3com ethernet or modem card, depending on your isp, or just get both
*Thermaltake Super Orb-you'll have to file down one edge of it to fit the mobo with any steel file (or bend the capacitors if you have balls)...only 5 minutes or so or work
*get a pci slot cooler and a case fan like the cardcooler xtreme...www.cardcooler.com
*logitech itouch wireless keyboard
*logitech ifeel mouseman
*VERY IMPORTANT!!! get a Samsung Dynaflat 955DF (19" CRT)...don't succumb to sony marketing schemes...dynaflat is a better technology than trinitron
Klipsch ProMedia v.2-400 Speaker
*Plantronics HS1 Headset
*Lexmark Z52 printer
any questions, feel free to e-mail me
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