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Can someone please comment(from experience) about any hardware incompatability they may have had with a Thunderbird. I'm in the market for a new cpu/mobo and want to get an AMD, but heard they may have compatability issues with nvidia vid cards among other hardware. I'm basically looking for tetamonials from both sides to influence which route I should take. Thunderbird...or P3?

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get the t-bird.

the only hardware compatability issue i've had was a known issue with a sb live value card (needs 2 irq's or something like that) and my moboard (ASUS, great board btw) )which was easily fixed wihin 30 seconds.

But that had nothin to do with the AMD chip anyway.

so i guess my answer is no, I didn't have any hardware incompatabilities...:)

Reply to JOJO

Any MB that has the Irongate Northbridge(early AMD chipsets) has a problem with Geforce Graphics cards, other than that , I have two Athlons and no problems with comatability.
If you do get an athlon and install W2K RTFM first as you can optimise the installation.

M

one of the first UK T-Bird users....

Reply to Anonymous
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I thought that it was the slot A Athlons that had problems with the video cards. The socket A boards run fine for me and my friends with NVidia cards.
Also the soundblaster is also no longer an issue. Just disable the SB16 Emulation in the device manager and don't install Liveware, wait for the next revision.

Reply to Bubba
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AMD has alot of problems with cheap power supplies.
Make sure the power supply is AMD approved. A good power supply is around $60~$80 bucks extra. (yeah, so much for saving money on AMD)

Another problem is RAM, make sure your RAM is AMD approved and known to work on your motherboard. but this is more your MOBO's problem than the AMD.

While your at it, might as well make sure everything you buy for that Tbird is compatable by asking vendor.

Also, You might want to spend a little extra on a CPU fan.
AMD keychains are very common these days. even I got one =)

Reply to FUGGER

I don't think it's the "Cheap power supply"!...It's the cheap cpu! :-)

yuk, ah yuk, yuk,ah yuk!

Reply to AmdMELTDOWN
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Isn't it tragic that such little, cheap, piece of crap chips from AMD can outperform Intel chips?

Why do Intel fans take shots at AMD chips like this?
You don't see AMD fans throwing around insults.

Prediction: this is going to be a very long thread.

Reply to Bubba

what? what sort of stupid comment is that to make?

I have two Athlon systems at home which use standard components (1xRadeon & 1x GeForce 2 GTS graphics, 2x SB Live! cards, all manner of hard disks etc. etc.) and have never had *any* trouble. I find Intel systems have many more compatibility problems, and often actual hardware flaws (820MTH, 1.13GHz PIII, get my drift?) which can't be corrected. I have built many systems (I work in IT) and switched to AMD when the K6-2 came out. I've never looked back.

So stick that in your thermal sensor and weep, AmdMeltdown.

Reply to Anonymous

Hey! now Veteron.

AMDMELTDOWN is the forum comic relief. Lets not kill the forum jester. HEHE

Reply to Anonymous
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I have a 30 dollar 300w power supply and have seen good ones for less on price watch. Want to talk about expensive, try the new p4 power supplies. Fugger's right about checking ram and about it normally being a mobo problem, so do check. Occasionally some ram just won't do, though it's rarely, if ever, high quality ram that has a problem.

"Are you saying that I can dodge bullets?"

Reply to jg38141
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One of the key things: Make sure your power supply is AMD approved.

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Reply to Arrow

How much faster is a Ferrari than a Pinto if it sits in the garage half the time? Ex AMD Fanatic here, I love the company and what they've done for technology, and I think the Athlon is more advanced than the PIII. But I'm the guy that constantly gripes about VIA, so until someone else comes out with a better chipset, I'd have to say that AMD systems generally are more susceptable to incompatability issues because most use the VIA chipsets. Micron is an excellent company, I hope they release their chipset soon, but unlike VIA they are probably waiting until they get ALL the bugs worked out! If that chipset follows Microns typical standard of extremely high quality, I'll start building AMD systems again.

Reply to Crashman

All problems with Socket-A platforms are there to be worked around from.I have installed and helped many people already and all problems had a quick solution, none are permanent incompatibility probs. Just use a quality mainboard, strong power supply and proper cooling.

Reply to Anonymous
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If i understood correctly various articles about CPU structure, Athlon should have less software incompatibilities than P4.
But p/s must be good , and BIOS should be upgraded, and there is not many good m/bs. (But P4 have all same but bigger problems) .

All i can give you is the truth. Nothing more.

Reply to Mordy

got a new Tbird on Friday, haven't had a single problem with it :)

Then again, I am running Windows NT, so who knows what's lurking underneath?


Basic System
---

Tbird 800MHz
Gigabyte motherboard running an AMD 750 chipset (Where's the *#$!ing manual when I need the model #?)
256MB PC133 SDRAM
32MB TNT2 Ultra w/TV out
Creative Vibra 128
bt848 based TV tuner
2x RT8139 based NIC
SCSI card bundled with AcerScan 310S (c. 1997)
20GB Seagate 5400rpm hard disk
LG 8x4x32x CD-RW
Hitachi 8x DVD-ROM
Iomega Zip100
Logitech Cordless Desktop :)

works like a charm, and canes the Celeron 600 it replaced.

Anybody for a CPU temperature of 37 degrees C? :)

Reply to Anonymous
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T-bird is the only way to GOOOO!!!

-MP Jesse

Reply to mpjesse
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It sounds like mpjesse falls off a cliff there at the end. "GOOOOOoooo..."

"Are you saying that I can dodge bullets?"

Reply to jg38141

"A good power supply will cost $60-$80 more"

Well, then a cheap powersupply gives you money here in in Canada, because you can get AMD recommended powersupplies for $50 if you look around. They are usually $60-70 total cost.

So yes fugger, you will still save money with an AMD system.

Reply to Anonymous

The only truly incompatible piece of hardware that I know of, is the Aureal SQ2500.

There is a conflict with the chipset I believe, and seeing as Aureal no longer exists, don't count on a driver update anytime soon (unless Creative, the people that bought out Aureal, wants to make one).

Reply to Anonymous

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Well, then a cheap powersupply gives you money here in in Canada, because you can get AMD recommended powersupplies for $50 if you look around. They are usually $60-70 total cost.


I'm in Canada and I got my case AND 300 watt AMD recommended powersupply for $60

Reply to Grizely1

Oh yeah, I forgot that I was including the case in those costs. Doh!


In any case, how do I get the "In reply to?" I don't see any reply button or anything (aside from the normal one).

Reply to Anonymous
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I would go for the Thunderbird. As far as I know, incompatibility in AMD Products versus compatibility for Pentium CPU'S is just a false rumor from the K6 processing days.

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