v305: artifact not found when back in same level (in prese..

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Hi,

somewhere around dungeon level 60, I collected about 5 artifacts. I recalled to
town, to sell some stuff and recharge my !oHealing, but had to left one there.
So I decided to let one sword, don't recall the name right now, but it was not
big deal.

After town shopping, I recalled to dungeon, same level, of course, and I looked
for that artifact in all places... no luck...

How is then "preserve mode" supposed to work? I thought it should be there,
somewhere...

E's can't crush artifacts, right? I so one E crushed one dungeon book...

And I remember, when I played v303 some time ago, I left a "cursed" artifact in
the dungeon, did the same town shopping, and when I recalled back to the level,
I couldn't find it...

Regards,

Leo

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Leo Lagos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> somewhere around dungeon level 60, I collected about 5 artifacts. I recalled to
> town, to sell some stuff and recharge my !oHealing, but had to left one there.
> So I decided to let one sword, don't recall the name right now, but it was not
> big deal.
>
> After town shopping, I recalled to dungeon, same level, of course, and I looked
> for that artifact in all places... no luck...
>
> How is then "preserve mode" supposed to work? I thought it should be there,
> somewhere...
>
> E's can't crush artifacts, right? I so one E crushed one dungeon book...
>
> And I remember, when I played v303 some time ago, I left a "cursed" artifact in
> the dungeon, did the same town shopping, and when I recalled back to the level,
> I couldn't find it...
>
Preserve mode means that if you leave an *unidentified* artifact on the
ground before leaving the level, then it will not be lost forever.
Seeing as you identified the artifact sword, unfortunately it's gone and
won't be generated again. Better hope its not Ringil or similar...

Hope it helped

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Ash Ellis

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Thanks a lot to all answers.. this lisk rocks!

So, I was wrong in several things....

Just to confirm:

1. items either id'ed or *id*'ed won't be regenerated again.

2. if some artifact is generated or droped at level X, and I don't id'it, it
will be regenerated in some other level (I mean, I don't need to come back to
that same level?) What if monster picks it up, and I leave the level? same rule
apply? I havenit id'ed yet...

3. monsters can't destroy artifacts, right? by crushing them? I know artifact
are all (are they all?) inmune to elements, but a monster crushing one, as I
saw that E crushing the dungeon book (which was also "inmune to elements" )...?

Once more, thanks a lot,

Leo

On 2005-04-15 22:33:37, "Michael Beatty" <mbeatty@gmail.com> wrote:

> Leo Lagos wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > somewhere around dungeon level 60, I collected about 5 artifacts. I
> recalled to
> > town, to sell some stuff and recharge my !oHealing, but had to left
> one there.
> > So I decided to let one sword, don't recall the name right now, but
> it was not
> > big deal.
> >
> > After town shopping, I recalled to dungeon, same level, of course,
> and I looked
> > for that artifact in all places... no luck...
>
> "Preserve" mode does not remove artifacts from the game until they have
> been identified (or *identified*). If you had collected the artifacts
> (through noting that monsters would not destroy/pick them up, or
> obvious ones such as the Phial) without identifying them, and then left
> them on the ground and left the level, it is possible that they would
> be found later in the game.
>
> Note however that when you leave and return to a level, the level will
> be completely regenerated; the layout, all monsters, items, tunnels,
> etc left from your previous visit will be discarded. The sole
> exception is the town level, where the layout is preserved (but again,
> items and monsters are regenerated).
>
> Some of the tk angband games had an option to preserve the level when
> recalling back to town. AFAIK the tk interfaces were the only place
> that functionality was found.
>
>
>


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AW H- D- c f- PV+ s++ TT? d P++ M+
C-- S- I- So- B-- ac !GHB SQ? !RQ V?

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In article <d3pb66$277f$1@news.vol.cz>, Leo Lagos <leo.lagos@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks a lot to all answers.. this lisk rocks!
>
>So, I was wrong in several things....
>
>Just to confirm:
>
>1. items either id'ed or *id*'ed won't be regenerated again.

Yes.

>2. if some artifact is generated or droped at level X, and I don't id'it, it
>will be regenerated in some other level (I mean, I don't need to come back to
>that same level?)

It can still be regenerated, but there are no guarantees.

>What if monster picks it up, and I leave the level? same rule
>apply? I havenit id'ed yet...

Monsters can't pick artifacts up.

>3. monsters can't destroy artifacts, right? by crushing them?

Correct.

>I know artifact
>are all (are they all?) inmune to elements, but a monster crushing one, as I
>saw that E crushing the dungeon book (which was also "inmune to elements" )...?

Artifacts are immune to the elements, but not everything that is
immune to the elements is an artifact.
--
Julian Lighton jl8e@fragment.com
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