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Sick of hearing about AMD Heat problems!!!!

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January 20, 2001 4:43:48 AM

There are no heat problems with AMD processors. This idea is a figment of a few peoples imaginations who feed this fake info to the masses. AMD processors are rated up to 90 degress Celcius. There normal operating temperature is a little higher than that of a P3, but that doesnt mean its a heat problem. Sure if you misplace or incorrectly install a heatsink you could fry your CPU, same thing would happen to any other 7th generation chip. Quit telling people who may want to buy AMD chips that they have heat problems because that is completely FALSE!!!!!!

If at first you don't succede, skydiving isn't for you.
<font color=blue>Intel Inside</font color=blue> = Idiot Outside
January 20, 2001 5:00:12 AM

what do you mean? you're sick of the ppl telling you about their burnt and crispy chips or are sick of the ppl with facts?

stop brainwashing them, like thg does.


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January 20, 2001 5:22:14 AM

Like wusy said. AMD and Intel cpu's both get flakey around 55C. And both are rated to 90C. That's the maximum temp before the chip frys, but NOT the max stable temp! If AMD puts out more heat LET THE WORLD KNOW, at least that way they'll know enought to get a better heatsink!

Suicide is painless...........
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January 20, 2001 2:35:05 PM

Have I ever seen anyone come here saying they fried their AMD chip when they had a heatsink and fan on? Have you? I don't think so.

Face the facts, you're the one being brainwashed.
January 20, 2001 3:01:10 PM

Besides that fact, every single case of someone frying their chip has been the result of overclocking. Every single heat problem (i.e. over 55) has been the result of overclocking. Some chips were never made to be overclocked, so when they get their voltages cranked up, they accumulate heat, thats just the way it goes. Me? I have an 800 running at 950 with 1.8v and my idle temp is around 44 with the maximum temp I have ever gotten was 51. I know their are a lot more people like me than their are who to the contrary.

If at first you don't succede, skydiving isn't for you.
<font color=blue>Intel Inside</font color=blue> = Idiot Outside
January 20, 2001 3:09:42 PM

Anyone frying their chip shouldn't be using it anyway.

I still say you should have to have a license to use a computer.
January 20, 2001 3:13:51 PM

hehe, good way of putting it, im not gonna name any names, but some people's nics plainly decribe their past results.

If at first you don't succede, skydiving isn't for you.
<font color=blue>Intel Inside</font color=blue> = Idiot Outside
January 20, 2001 3:38:35 PM

True. IF they don't know how to mount a heatsink they don't deserve to have a computer.
January 22, 2001 11:55:06 AM

i think anyone frying their chips deserves to have to buy another one. but that's the price some people are willing to pay to learn how far is too far.

<font color=red>booyah, grandma, booyah..</font color=red>
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January 22, 2001 12:08:58 PM

you provide very little in the way of facts to back up your continuing deep throating of Intel......or are you just part of the Intel PR team??

M

one of the first UK T-Bird users....
January 22, 2001 8:53:52 PM

Leave the heatsink off for a 2 minutes. and tell us there is no heat problem. Thanks

I scrolled back for post about "Antec" HSF and PSU tat have failed. Cant remember the name but they said antec failed and CPU fried.
January 23, 2001 2:32:38 AM

i left the heatsink off mine for days and nothing happened.

of course i never turned on the power.

but seriously, if you build your own system you are responsible for the outcome. if you're AFRAID of burning up your chip then get an intel. if you want to save a lot of money and feel that you know what you are doing then get an AMD. either way you get what YOU want, not what some jacka$$ on the net spouts at the top of his keyboard.

<font color=red>booyah, grandma, booyah..</font color=red>
January 23, 2001 6:56:40 AM

Ok AMD is best value for money but what happens when the fan gets old and quits? Fans are mechanical and will usually go bad way before electronics do. Some socket mobos have temp sensing but how does a slot Athlon mobo sense temp? I work on computers for a living and when those fans quit CPUs bake. Mostly the chip we have the most trouble with are Cyrix. Cyrix sucks. Do AMD mobos have fan rpm sensors? AMD is good but why can’t they spend a lousy few cents on a thermal sensor? Especially since you even admit that they generate more heat. If they don’t want to do that then they could spec sensors on AMD approved mobos.

Just had a friend ask me to go computer shopping and I recommended she buy an AMD BUT I also told her to be careful and make sure the mobo has some sort of heat or rpm sensor.
January 23, 2001 2:36:14 PM

If you have a good fan/heatsink in the first place, by the time the fan goes bad that chip will be way out of date anyway. My fans normally last at least 5 years.

"Crash And Burn"
January 23, 2001 8:35:18 PM

Don't be gay.... who the hell runs their computer without a heatsink and fan? Also, try doing that to a P3. If it didn't have that thermal protectoin thing it would do that too. So technically every processor has a heat problem.
January 25, 2001 1:53:44 AM

Maybe I shouldn't own a computer, but I still need help. I just bought a new Globalwin fop38, installed it and as soon as I rebooted, my machine began to crash, blue screens, Illegal operations, you name it. My cpu temp rises higher than ever, about 50degrees idle. When I place my stock Retail AMD heatsink/fan. the problem goes away. Temp drops down to 42degrees idle overclocked from 1gig to 1150mhz. I feel I'm placing the heatsink incorrectly. I obviously know how to install the factory heatsink/fan. But I can't get this globalwin to cool or work as it's supposed to. Help guys...
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January 25, 2001 2:37:43 AM

You can say whatever you want, regardless of what processor is better performance wise, the Athlon TBird 1GHz draws 54watts at maximum usage, whereas the P3 1GHz only draws something like 35. I personally own a TBird, but if you're talking heat, Tbirds run a hell of a lot hotter and draw more power...that's why you don't see any Athlon notebooks floating around. I may like AMDs processors right now, but they sure have some work to do on the power consumation.

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January 25, 2001 2:47:32 AM

the asus a7v (rev. 1.02) has both a fan rpm and a thermal sensor. but here the problem is not with the processors but the mobo manufacturer.

<font color=red>booyah, grandma, booyah..</font color=red>
January 25, 2001 2:54:43 AM

if you're looking for help here you don't need to worry about whether or not you should be owning a computer.

it sounds like a temp problem. a couple of ideas.
1. make sure you take off the factory thermal paste or whatever came on it. get some artic silver or something comparable and use that instead.
2. you HAVE to make sure the heatsink is ABSOLUTELY level on top of the die. i had problems with my chrome orb until i did (1.) and (2.)

the paste that came on the orb was so thick that the heatsink couldn't be mounted level and it interfered with the heat transfer. let us know if that helps.

<font color=red>booyah, grandma, booyah..</font color=red>
January 25, 2001 2:57:02 AM

dre: I had one of those (FOP-38) that didn't work for me either. Don't feel special.

- JW
December 18, 2008 10:51:08 PM

Dont buy AMD. i 've compared around 10 of my friends laptop sony,hp,dell

laptop with AMD is bad...heat and kicks off the fan always...in high performance / Recommand mode of vista.

Always read lots lots of review of your laptop model before buying...

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December 18, 2008 11:49:46 PM

Wow, you realize this thread has been dead for nearly 8 YEARS! Wow.
December 18, 2008 11:52:46 PM

Always check the date of the thread before posting....
December 19, 2008 3:53:07 AM

Or never look at the 40th page.
December 19, 2008 4:27:10 AM

Grizely1 said:
True. IF they don't know how to mount a heatsink they don't deserve to have a computer.


No, they don't deserver to build a computer. Those who don't build can get buy with the following list in order of descending PC knowledge:

Gateway
HP
Dell
EMachines

One of the reasons I stick with AMD is I'm old fashioned, I like pins on my CPU and prefer the style of heatsink used on AMD platforms, but then again, I don't overclock. If I did, I would not use a stock heatsink.

A good case definitely affects temps too. A bad case does so as well, but in the other direction.

If the economy picks up, I might build an Intel system just to get into the modern pins on the motherboard age. I still remember when I started out building my own, and the 386SX CPU was soldered to the motherboard. Easy upgrades there.

Ah, the days of Star Control II, Elder Scrolls: Arena, Might and Magic World of Xeen and Legends of Arkania: Startrail!
December 19, 2008 4:29:57 AM

antique giggles

I wondered why everybody had a p3

too funny
December 19, 2008 6:10:34 AM

EXT64 said:
Wow, you realize this thread has been dead for nearly 8 YEARS! Wow.


Some of us look forward to whover has the thread necromancer card pics. It's always funny. I didn't look at the original OP date at all. Besides, I couldn't resist posting OEM systems in descending order of computer literacy.

Whoever has that thread necromancer pic, post it now. :wahoo: 

If there were a thread about getting Star Control 2 to run under DR DOS, then I'd be right on top of it with advice. Nowadays, I can't get the combat in Urquan Masters to work under Vista. The game runs, but once I get to combat with that first Ilwrath ship, it doesn't recognize my keyboard settings. :cry: 

My favorite game of all time is either Star Control 2 or Betrayal at Krondor, though Daggerfall and Might and Magic VII come close. Only LOTRO's been as much fun for me, even though I played many games in between.
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December 19, 2008 6:18:29 AM

I started reading and got to the third or fourth post before I notice seen Crashman's pic then looked at the date.
This will really through you guys, I think one of the best games I ever played was SNK Baseball Stars on the old Nintendo. Came out in 1989.
December 19, 2008 6:26:32 AM

I had two home computers back then, didn't build my first PC till 1991. I had a Commodore 128 and a Laser 128 Apple II clone. I mostly played games on the 128, because I can't code very well (tried to make use of the C/PM Z80 side of the thing). Never could find any 128 software. Should have just spent less on a C64.

I bought the Laser at discount to play a huge selection of Wizardry games a friend gave me when his Apple died and he went Mac. My wife still has her old C64, but I sold both my home PC's to finance my first 386SX build.

I missed the date on this thread, but reading other threads, I think I also misread "P3" as "P2" as that's what people are calling Phenom II Denebs.
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December 19, 2008 7:57:05 AM

Wow I remember this. Well at least the high heat thing with the older AMD CPUs (pre A64).

But wow. Necroed from hell. I was still in hgihschool when this thread started and the internet was not as big. Or did the bubble just pop?
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December 19, 2008 10:57:58 AM

It brings back memories to me too.During Jan 2001 I just built my custom 1 Ghz AMD Athlon Thunderbird system.At the time it was pretty beefy and I had 640 mb of RAM in it.The system never seemed stable with Windows 98SE so I used Windows 2000 Pro instead then it ran well.It was my main gaming system up till Jan 2004.
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December 19, 2008 7:28:04 PM

jimmysmitty said:
Wow I remember this. Well at least the high heat thing with the older AMD CPUs (pre A64).

But wow. Necroed from hell. I was still in hgihschool when this thread started and the internet was not as big. Or did the bubble just pop?


Yes! On Jan. 1 the calendar will secretly reset to 2001 and you will have to repeat the last 8 years all over again. Geo. Bush will occupy the Whitehouse on Jan. 20 all over again, and about 2 years later we will invade Iraq, and 4 years after that the economy will go belly-up.

Have a nice day :) 
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December 20, 2008 6:44:02 AM

Holy crap, wusy is back! Or not...
November 18, 2009 12:26:13 AM

Wake up and come into the real world? Amd cpu's do have have heat issues with poorly fitted coolers or some dumb ass sli ing 3 cards in a case with poor cooling and air flow yes granted in those cases it is a problem.

But to say a few people what room are you hiding in? Thousand of complaints not a few even as a amd user myself im sure they wont divulged the real number of complaints they receive.

And i hate to say it but most heat problem arise from poor motherboards, poor cooling and gullible people believing every bench test result or review they read.

In the real world where we deal will hundreds of pc repairs a months nearly every hardware fault with a amd is thermal of cheap crappy boards but they are not a few.

Dont believe your own legend, and never let facts get in the way of truth how dare we lol
November 18, 2009 12:38:32 AM

This thread is from 8 years ago..it doesn't need revived.
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November 18, 2009 12:53:15 AM

SOME MOD LOCK THIS NECRO THREAD!
November 18, 2009 12:53:58 AM



Twice? Seriously?
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November 18, 2009 12:56:29 AM

*** man.. my house caught fire.. it's that AMD CPU heat problems fault I swear!
November 18, 2009 3:16:12 AM

sonic-boom said:
This thread is from 8 years ago..it doesn't need revived.


The threat may be 8 years old now but with more customer doing there own research and reading this crap then annoying blokes like us . drives us bonkers. if the issue were dead so would the thread dude problem still happens so they should delete or let the people speak

8 year old problem 8 year on on going reality
that sonic for the info
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November 18, 2009 5:42:13 AM

sjames2004 said:
The threat may be 8 years old now but with more customer doing there own research and reading this crap then annoying blokes like us . drives us bonkers. if the issue were dead so would the thread dude problem still happens so they should delete or let the people speak

8 year old problem 8 year on on going reality
that sonic for the info

This is going to sound really mean but you really need to take English lessons. Yes, I am being quite honest here... your English is *dreadful*.

I myself am French... btw.
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November 18, 2009 8:23:21 AM

[:boudy:3] Die zombie thread, die.
[:thegreatgrapeape:7]
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