Extrapolating from that I'd say a PIII-800EB will end up between CDN$180-200 which sounds reasonable as the TBird-800 is CDN$190. Wow - that means you should be able to get dual 800EBs on a VP6 with 256MB Micron CAS2/142MHz ram for under CDN$800 here soon (that less then US$550). I think I'll wait for a DDR chipset 'tho.
Any bets on whether AMD counters with another price cut? I guess they still win bang for the buck but when the bucks converge people will go with the "known quantity" that is Intel Inside. (for better or worse)
I think I'm going to hold off a bit on buying that new computer...
I'm happy, like really happy, Everyone wins in a situation like this, competition kicks ass, if you like intel, you can buy it for reasonable prices now, and if you like amd, they're probably going to cut their prices lower than they were before... sweet god i haven't been this happy in like forever.
don't get me wrong, Amd will be around for along time, and they will most likely have a successful dual solution, but they'll have a long,hard and bumpy road ahead of them.
you seem to want AMD to fail. what the hells wrong with you? if it werent for AMD, Intel would never had cut prices, so shut up and quit bitching and playing the "i told ya so" game
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meltdown, ive got to hand it to you, ive never seen someone abuse another post like that, and although you fell short on the intelligence department, you should feel good that you made that one guy laugh. congrats
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VP6 still stuck with a VIA chipset. I just found out from elmers77 that the Asus P2BD-S supports Copppermine chips. It's dual and uses the ultra-reliable (old reliable) BX chipset, is available with onboard SCSI, and supports overclocking for 100MHz sytem bus to 112. Since the Abit version does not support the Coppermine, this seems like a good alternative.
Crashman: see my post in the motherboard section about the new dual 815E board. I love my BX board but if I was buying a new dual system I'd go dual 815E. The P2B-D is $$$$$. I wouldn't go VIA either, I just said a VP6 because it was the only one I could easily get a price on.
I think there is one keynote that concerns me the most about all of this.
If Intel does drop their prices, more people will buy Intel again. (Or just even more people in general.)
AMD's only course of action will be to cut their prices.
And this means that AMD will be making less profit than Intel. Less profit = less to spend on research and development.
And THAT is what scares me.
It's obvious that Intel is trying some weird and new concepts for chips and that their R&D engineers are having a ball.
And it's just as obvious that AMD is already struggling to keep up with that kind of innovation.
So far it's worked out for AMD because Intel hasn't made anything that is difinitively better, despite being more creative and thoughtful.
But what if that changes?
Already the concept of the quad-pumped bus sounds great. And the highly intensive bandwidth use has a lot of potential for PC enhancement with the same chip but just better memory. That'd be cool.
And if Intel for once makes a chip that IS worth their high price and DOES completely outperform AMD, what R&D does AMD have going that'll counter that?
So far it looks like next to none.
And the less profit margin they get, the less R&D there will be.
And before you know it, all AMD will be once again is just a crappy clone like Cyrix. And then there will really be no more competition.
And we all get screwed.
So as much as I'm for Intel dropping their prices, it's concerning me greatly because we already know AMD isn't putting all that much effort into R&D ever since they came out with the Athlon ages ago.
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