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Thanks for all the advice on skill progression from the earlier thread.
It's enabled me to get my first char past my first hard quest.
I've been taking hard quests all the way down, and I just got a quest for
7 Stormcrows on dlvl 19. What am I getting myself into? What do I need
to prepare for them?

A lot more comments down in skills section

[Sangband 0.9.9, beta 18 Character Dump]

Qurashtar Age : 68 STR: 18/20
the Stalker Height : 6 ft, 1 in Int: 14 15
Weight : 149 lb WIS: 12
Gender : Male DEX: 18
Race : Dunadan Slayer of a level 25 CON: 18/10
Creeping mithril coins CHR: 9

Max Hitpoints 185 Power 33 Max Mana 0
Cur Hitpoints 185 Score 144 Cur Mana 0

(Melee) Unspent Exp 2118 (Missile)
Blows/Round 2 Gold 20472 Shots/Round 0
+ to Skill 0 + to Skill 0
Deadliness (%) 18 Max Depth Lev 16 Deadliness (%) 18

(Character Abilities)
Melee : Good Saving Throw: Very Good Magic Device: Good
Shooting : Excellent Stealth : Excellent Dodging : Very Bad
Throwing : Superb Perception : Excellent Fame : Praised
Digging : Iffy Disarming : Excellent Infra-Vision: 0 feet

Speed : -1
Armour : 59
Kills : 809
Time Elapsed: 4 days, 19 hours, 15 minutes (480227 turns)


[Character Attributes]

abcdefghijkl@ Stat Intrnl abcdefghijkl@ Adjust Currnt
Stlth:.......3...1. STR: 17 ..2.........1 18/20
Invis:............. Int: 14 ............1 15 14
Aware:............. WIS: 9 ............3 12
Disar:............. DEX: 16 ............2 18
Devic:............. CON: 16 ............3 18/10
Speed:............. CHR: 11 ....2........ 9

abcdefghijkl@ abcdefghijkl@
Infra:............. NFuel:.............
Tunnl:............1 Steal:.............
Save :............. NoMag:.............
Mana :............. Telep:.............
Light:.....2....... Aggra:.............
Drain:.............

Curse:.............

abcdefghijkl@ abcdefghijkl@ abcdefghijkl@
Acid :............. Light:............. Food :.............
Elec :............. Dark :............. Feath:.............
Fire :............. Sound:............. Shine:.............
Cold :........+.+.. Shard:............. Regen:.............
Pois :............. Nexus:.......+..... ESP :.............
Fear :............. Nethr:............. SeeIn:.............
Blind:............. Chaos:............. FrAct:.............
Confu:............. Disen:............. HLife:.............


[Skills]
Currently working on melee/burglary/forging. Haven't used forging yet.
I'd love to invest in swords/clubs/joust, but I don't have the points
to spare, and it costs more to move them 1% as it does to
move my wrestling 1% (I thought there would be a point where moving
them would be cheaper than moving raised scores).

I just finished a mithril coin quest w/multiple orc uniques tossed in,
so I have about 2k xp to spend. Where should I spend them to prepare
for stormcrows?

Throwing : 35%
Wrestling : 33%
Karate : 33%

raising both karate and wrestling for stat points. when do I stop raising
one of them?

Wizardry : 10%
Holy Alliance : 10%
Nature Lore : 10%

these trail by quite a bit, but i want to get the special detect abilities
eventually.

Magical Device : 21%
hard to get enuff skill experience to keep this at base cost.

Burglary : 25%
traps are nice. using boulders now. I understand I should move towards
heavy branded melee weapons?
Perception : 26%
Stealth : 22%
actively raising these.
Disarming : 19%
Dodging : 6%
these are raised from burglary only.
Spell Resistance : 33%

Armor Forging : 28%
Alchemy : 16%
Magical Infusion : 15%
been trying to raise all three, but they're expensive.


[Character Equipment]

an Onyx Ring of Strength (+2)
a Lapis Lazuli Ring
a Golden Amulet
waiting for pseudo-id on these so I get the xp.

a Brass Lantern [2] <Fuel: 8042>
Light source (radius 2)
Soft Leather Armour [4,+0]
the Cloak 'Colannon' [1,+15] (+3 to stealth)
Activates for teleport (100) every 45 turns. [5% fail]
+3 Stealth. Resist Nexus.
Quest reward

a Large Leather Shield of Resist Cold [6,+3]
a Hard Leather Cap [2,+4]
the Set of Mail Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' [2,+12]
Activates for lance of cold (damage 5d10) every 5-10 turns.. [2% fail]
Resist Cold.
a Pair of Hard Leather Boots of Stealth [3,+5] (+1)
Quest rewards

a Pouch (holding 10 essences of 5 types)


[Character Inventory]

13 Flasks of oil {@F1}
Does 2d5 thrown damage
19 Blue Potions of Cure Serious Wounds {25% off}
14 Scrolls titled "mic flitsri" of Phase Door {@r1}
2 Scrolls titled "roum botro man" of Teleportation {@r5 !*}
2 Scrolls titled "bit pay dalfer" of Word of Recall {@r6 !*}
a Molybdenum Rod of Door/Stair Location {@z0}
a Platinum Wand of Wonder {unknown}
{Should I keep this around to use?}
a Palmwood Staff of Perception (5 charges) {@u0}
Unusually durable
an Ironwood Staff of Light {unknown}
an Aspen Staff {tried}
{Waiting to get use-xp}
an Obsidian Ring of Resist Acid
a Pearl Ring of Resist Fire
{Swap Items}
a Beryl Ring of Free Action {Golfimbul}
{Normal ring}
8 Throwing Knives (1d3) (+4,+5) {@v1=g}
12 Throwing Knives (1d4) (+0,+1) {@v1=g}
{Ranged damage - do boulders do more?}


[Home Inventory]

2 Swirling Potions of Essences (Fire)
Does 2d12 thrown damage
11 Silver Speckled Potions of Cure Critical Wounds {@q1, 25% off}
15 Scrolls titled "mic flitsri" of Phase Door {@r1}
a Copper Rod of Blinking
{Waiting to get a few more to replace scrolls}
a Rosewood Staff of Remove Curse (10 charges) {Bill Ferny}
Unusually durable
a Main Gauche of Slay Evil (1d5) (+3,+4)
a Long Sword of Slay Troll (2d5) (+6,+3) {Lagduf}
a Morning Star (2d6) {Golfimbul, good}
{Should I start using these in traps?}
20 empty Bottles (Glass)
36 blank Parchments (Paper)
2 chunks of Copper


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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Gallowglass wrote:

> I've been taking hard quests all the way down, and I just got a quest for
> 7 Stormcrows on dlvl 19. What am I getting myself into? What do I need
> to prepare for them?

Their melee attacks are pretty weak and their hitpoints low. However they
have a couple of distance attacks and can knock you around. A way to
either attack them from a distance would be nice, or a way to detect them
and then burrow into a wall on an angle trap and try to get them to come at
you.

> Throwing : 35%
> Wrestling : 33%
> Karate : 33%
>
> raising both karate and wrestling for stat points. when do I stop raising
> one of them?

You get the stat bonuses at 40 I think for both. Both of them however have
high level abilities which are useful for a heavy melee class.

> Armor Forging : 28%
> Magical Infusion : 15%

> Soft Leather Armour [4,+0]
> a Hard Leather Cap [2,+4]

> the Set of Mail Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' [2,+12]
> Activates for lance of cold (damage 5d10) every 5-10 turns.. [2% fail]

This should go a lot of hurt to the crows, if you had a decent wand it would
be trivial to kill them.

> 2 chunks of Copper

Have you tried forging yet? Even though your skills are low you
should be able to make better armor than what you are wearing on head and
body.

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Cliff Stamp <sstamp@physics.mun.ca> writes:

> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Gallowglass wrote:
>
>> I've been taking hard quests all the way down, and I just got a quest for
>> 7 Stormcrows on dlvl 19. What am I getting myself into? What do I need
>> to prepare for them?
>
> Their melee attacks are pretty weak and their hitpoints low. However they
> have a couple of distance attacks and can knock you around. A way to
> either attack them from a distance would be nice, or a way to detect them
> and then burrow into a wall on an angle trap and try to get them to come at
> you.
>
>> Throwing : 35%
>> Wrestling : 33%
>> Karate : 33%
>>
>> raising both karate and wrestling for stat points. when do I stop raising
>> one of them?
>
> You get the stat bonuses at 40 I think for both. Both of them however have
> high level abilities which are useful for a heavy melee class.

Then again at 60 and maybe again at 80 or 85.

>> the Set of Mail Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' [2,+12]
>> Activates for lance of cold (damage 5d10) every 5-10 turns.. [2% fail]
>
> This should go a lot of hurt to the crows, if you had a decent wand it would
> be trivial to kill them.

There is no reason to get into LOS with them. Set a couple of traps
in a corridor and run off through a room to the next corridor.


Eddie

 

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Gallowglass wrote:
> Thanks for all the advice on skill progression from the earlier thread.
> It's enabled me to get my first char past my first hard quest.
> I've been taking hard quests all the way down, and I just got a quest for
> 7 Stormcrows on dlvl 19. What am I getting myself into? What do I need
> to prepare for them?
>
I think you should carefully consider character development.

You are quite close to the point where you can take Oath of Iron. (You
can take it when you have Wrestling/Karate at 45). Taking it means you
can never cast spells, and magic devices is then capped at 50. On the
other hand you have burglary at 25 and to raise it past 30 you must join
Burglar's Guild. Joining Burglar's guild would give you +2 to DEX.

You should choose quite soon... Burglar's Guild or Oath of Iron?

> [Skills]
> Currently working on melee/burglary/forging. Haven't used forging yet.
> I'd love to invest in swords/clubs/joust, but I don't have the points
> to spare, and it costs more to move them 1% as it does to
> move my wrestling 1% (I thought there would be a point where moving
> them would be cheaper than moving raised scores).
>
Weapons skills are more expensive than martial arts. You need to invest
in weapons at some stage, as ghosts are not harmed by martial arts and
if they stay in walls you must melee them.

> I just finished a mithril coin quest w/multiple orc uniques tossed in,
> so I have about 2k xp to spend. Where should I spend them to prepare
> for stormcrows?
>
> Throwing : 35%
> Wrestling : 33%
> Karate : 33%
>
> raising both karate and wrestling for stat points. when do I stop raising
> one of them?

Get both to 40 for stat boosts. Next boost is at 60 so after 40 you can
ignore one for a while, but eventually you want that boost. If you go
for Oath of Iron, take one of these to 45.

>
> Wizardry : 10%
> Holy Alliance : 10%
> Nature Lore : 10%
>
> these trail by quite a bit, but i want to get the special detect abilities
> eventually.

If you have extra XP, get Nature Lore to 25 and you can detect stormcrows.

>
> Magical Device : 21%
> hard to get enuff skill experience to keep this at base cost.
>
Carry Wands of Stinking cloud and kill weaklings with them.
Or use wand/rod of light in a corridor filled with orcs.

> Burglary : 25%
> traps are nice. using boulders now. I understand I should move towards
> heavy branded melee weapons?

Heavy weapons are better than boulders. You can also use magic devices.
Area effects like Stinking Cloud are nice against groups running through
the trap. You can join the Guild now, if you feel like it.

> Perception : 26%
> Stealth : 22%
> actively raising these.
> Disarming : 19%
> Dodging : 6%
> these are raised from burglary only.
> Spell Resistance : 33%
>
> Armor Forging : 28%
> Alchemy : 16%
> Magical Infusion : 15%
> been trying to raise all three, but they're expensive.
>
>