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One thing I've noticed in YAWPs is that players often inscribe the
history of the items they carry - for example Ringil {Baphomet 1800'}.
It got me to thinking that often I'll look back at a character and not
remember much of his/her history...sure, he's got Ringil or Calris or
whatever at the win/death dump, but I won't remember that great Sling
of Power he found at 50' that carried him through the early game or the
great luck in finding a Dagger of Extra Blows at 500'.
I'm wondering...could we add a "character journal" to Angband? This
would be something autogenerated, and updated when the character level
changes. I'm thinking it would either be appended to the savefile, or
written to a separate log file. It would be a mini-dump snapshot of
each character level.
Perhaps something like this, one entry for each level (ignore the
numbers - they're just examples):
== Character Level 30 (Guide) ==
XP : 190153 STR: 18/41 Top Unique Killed : Boern, the
Shape-Changer
HP : 270 INT: 18/40 Current Depth : 1250'
SP : 40 WIS: 18/137 Max Depth : 1200'
AU : 97,123 DEX: 18/20 Turns : 3123123
UK : 28 CON: 18/147
AI : 17 CHR: 18/90
Equipment:
a Dagger of Lightning (1d4) (+6,+11) {10% off}
a Short Bow of Extra Shots (x2) (+14,+8) (+1)
a Fluorite Ring of Speed (+8)
a Rhodonite Ring of See Invisible
a Copper Amulet of Devotion (+3)
The Phial of Galadriel
The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (-1) [11,+25] (+3)
a Cloak of Stealth [1,+15] (+1 to stealth)
a Large Leather Shield of Resistance [4,+9]
The Metal Cap of Thengel [3,+12] (+3)
The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' [2,+14]
The Pair of Soft Leather Boots 'Dal-i-thalion' [2,+14] (+5)
(Where UK is Uniques Killer, AI is Artifacts Identified). Or in a more
dense paragraph:
== Character Level 30 (Guide) ==
You reached character level 30 while at 1200' (max depth 1250') on turn
3,123,123 with 190153 experience points, while wielding a Dagger of
Lightning (1d4) (+6, +11) and a Short Bow of Extra Shots (x2) (+14,
+8). On your left hand you wore a Flourite Ring of Speed (+8) and on
your right, a Rhodonite Ring of See Invisible. Around your neck, you
carried a Copper Amulet of Devotion (+3). Your light source was the
Phial of Galadriel. On your body was the Leather Scale Mail
'Thalkettoh' (-1) [11,+25] and about it was a Cloak of Stealth [1,+15]
(+1 to stealth). On your arm rode a Large Leather Shield of Resistance
[4,+9]. Your head was protected by the Metal Cap of Thengel [3,+12]
(+3). On your hands and feet were the Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach'
[2,+14] and the Pair of Soft Leather Botos 'Dail-i-thalion' [2,+15]
respectively. You had dispatched 28 uniques (most powerful: Boern, the
Shape-Changer), identified 17 artifacts, and your stats were STR-18/91,
INT-18/41, WIS-18/40, DEX-18/137, CON-18/20, CHR-18/147, with 270 hit
points and 40 spell points. You had 97,123 AU and your title was
Guide.
Or perhaps as a matrix:
clvl Turn XP Depth/Max UK AI Wielding/Shooting
2 2000 8 50'/50' 0 0 a Broad Sword (2d5) (+0,
+0)
a Sling (x2) (+0, +0)
3 12,123 16 100'/150' 1 1 The Dagger 'Narthanc'
(2d4) (+4, +6)
a Sling (x2) (+0, +0)
....though I like the other formats better.
A couple additional thoughts:
(a) perhaps writing to the journal should be triggered by the turn
counter rather than by level, since characters stay at level 50 for a
while, and sometimes a lot can happen between the high forties levels.
It would have to be a sort of mixed scale - perhaps every level change
up to 100,000 turns and then every 100,000 turns after that.
(b) it would be nice to include where each item was obtained, i.e., The
Phial of Galadriel {Floor 450'}. Unfortunately, it's not just artifacts
- some of the key ego items (e.g., Rings of Speed) can be
game-changers.
(c) There are other ways to take this idea. We could do some kind of
power graph (some equation that shows aggregate character power,
factoring in speed and gear), progress graph (factoring in uniques and
depth), etc.
What think ye?
-Drew
One thing I've noticed in YAWPs is that players often inscribe the
history of the items they carry - for example Ringil {Baphomet 1800'}.
It got me to thinking that often I'll look back at a character and not
remember much of his/her history...sure, he's got Ringil or Calris or
whatever at the win/death dump, but I won't remember that great Sling
of Power he found at 50' that carried him through the early game or the
great luck in finding a Dagger of Extra Blows at 500'.
I'm wondering...could we add a "character journal" to Angband? This
would be something autogenerated, and updated when the character level
changes. I'm thinking it would either be appended to the savefile, or
written to a separate log file. It would be a mini-dump snapshot of
each character level.
Perhaps something like this, one entry for each level (ignore the
numbers - they're just examples):
== Character Level 30 (Guide) ==
XP : 190153 STR: 18/41 Top Unique Killed : Boern, the
Shape-Changer
HP : 270 INT: 18/40 Current Depth : 1250'
SP : 40 WIS: 18/137 Max Depth : 1200'
AU : 97,123 DEX: 18/20 Turns : 3123123
UK : 28 CON: 18/147
AI : 17 CHR: 18/90
Equipment:
a Dagger of Lightning (1d4) (+6,+11) {10% off}
a Short Bow of Extra Shots (x2) (+14,+8) (+1)
a Fluorite Ring of Speed (+8)
a Rhodonite Ring of See Invisible
a Copper Amulet of Devotion (+3)
The Phial of Galadriel
The Leather Scale Mail 'Thalkettoth' (-1) [11,+25] (+3)
a Cloak of Stealth [1,+15] (+1 to stealth)
a Large Leather Shield of Resistance [4,+9]
The Metal Cap of Thengel [3,+12] (+3)
The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' [2,+14]
The Pair of Soft Leather Boots 'Dal-i-thalion' [2,+14] (+5)
(Where UK is Uniques Killer, AI is Artifacts Identified). Or in a more
dense paragraph:
== Character Level 30 (Guide) ==
You reached character level 30 while at 1200' (max depth 1250') on turn
3,123,123 with 190153 experience points, while wielding a Dagger of
Lightning (1d4) (+6, +11) and a Short Bow of Extra Shots (x2) (+14,
+8). On your left hand you wore a Flourite Ring of Speed (+8) and on
your right, a Rhodonite Ring of See Invisible. Around your neck, you
carried a Copper Amulet of Devotion (+3). Your light source was the
Phial of Galadriel. On your body was the Leather Scale Mail
'Thalkettoh' (-1) [11,+25] and about it was a Cloak of Stealth [1,+15]
(+1 to stealth). On your arm rode a Large Leather Shield of Resistance
[4,+9]. Your head was protected by the Metal Cap of Thengel [3,+12]
(+3). On your hands and feet were the Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach'
[2,+14] and the Pair of Soft Leather Botos 'Dail-i-thalion' [2,+15]
respectively. You had dispatched 28 uniques (most powerful: Boern, the
Shape-Changer), identified 17 artifacts, and your stats were STR-18/91,
INT-18/41, WIS-18/40, DEX-18/137, CON-18/20, CHR-18/147, with 270 hit
points and 40 spell points. You had 97,123 AU and your title was
Guide.
Or perhaps as a matrix:
clvl Turn XP Depth/Max UK AI Wielding/Shooting
2 2000 8 50'/50' 0 0 a Broad Sword (2d5) (+0,
+0)
a Sling (x2) (+0, +0)
3 12,123 16 100'/150' 1 1 The Dagger 'Narthanc'
(2d4) (+4, +6)
a Sling (x2) (+0, +0)
....though I like the other formats better.
A couple additional thoughts:
(a) perhaps writing to the journal should be triggered by the turn
counter rather than by level, since characters stay at level 50 for a
while, and sometimes a lot can happen between the high forties levels.
It would have to be a sort of mixed scale - perhaps every level change
up to 100,000 turns and then every 100,000 turns after that.
(b) it would be nice to include where each item was obtained, i.e., The
Phial of Galadriel {Floor 450'}. Unfortunately, it's not just artifacts
- some of the key ego items (e.g., Rings of Speed) can be
game-changers.
(c) There are other ways to take this idea. We could do some kind of
power graph (some equation that shows aggregate character power,
factoring in speed and gear), progress graph (factoring in uniques and
depth), etc.
What think ye?
-Drew
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