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P3 1ghz vs Athlon 1ghz vs price/performance!!! *DELETED*

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February 5, 2001 2:26:29 PM

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February 5, 2001 2:35:59 PM

Haha you crackhead. In your entire 2 seconds of research you should have realised that the 298 athlon is the slot A classic. MORON. The 1ghz Thunderbird Socket A is only $179 bucks! (and it's better than the classic) So the P3 1ghz is 90 dollars MORE than the 1ghz Tbird.
Thanks for the laugh though
Oh yeh, and NOW it is clear who's the price/performance winner

G'day
February 5, 2001 2:41:51 PM

AmdMeltDown trying to MISLEAD EVERYONE!!!

First, Athlon is the older processor technology of AMD and anyone buying an AMD 1Ghz processor should get the Thunderbird.

$260 1 Ghz Intel P3
$179 1 Ghz AMD Thunderbird

DIFFERENCE $81

http://www.pricewatch.com/

Do the math. Don't be uneducated and ignorant like AmdMeltdown. Make a good decision that gives you the most processor power for your dollar. My first processor was an Intel. This time around though I myself will go for the AMD processor which is by far a better value. Another deciding fact is comparable benchmarks of Intel and AMD processors running at the same speed have consistenly showed AMD rock Intel's world. So for those of you who are unbiased idiots you should do your homework, decide how much you want to spend, and then buy your processor with that in mind.

Real men don't hide behind a cheesy-ass names like AMDMeltDown...only geeks do.
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February 5, 2001 2:49:06 PM

boy did that ever back fire, hahahahaha. can't you see, the intel will never be cheaper than amd because of their huge difference in corporate spending. intel's executives can't afford to cut prices for the p3. they are to greedy to do that.

If you can't beat 'em kill 'em
athlon "SLOTA" thunderbird 700@1050mhz
February 5, 2001 3:01:20 PM

I have to agree with them, AMD, you really screwed this one up.
But I must say, Intel's prices are dropping to almost reasonable levels and its nice to see.
February 5, 2001 4:03:52 PM

And what does this have to do with the price of tomatoes in Brooklyn? I didn't think this was an investment club. I thought we were discussing price/performance, NOT P/E. Go rant elsewhere, try www.fool.com.
February 5, 2001 4:26:36 PM

I didn't mislead anyone, I just stated the facts between a p3 and a ATHLON (I know the difference, between it and the t-bird)but a lot of ppl still say athlon is cheaper than the p3 and I've just posted the opposite.

you are right the t-bird is the cheaper of the two, but I was talking about p3 vs Athlon.

I'm sorry if ppl didn't understand my post, I did not try to mislead anyone just looking out for ppl who'll buy the ATHLON instead of the t-bird or p3.

fair enough?

actually I've should've asked: "why is the classic athlon 1ghz so expensive?"
Anonymous
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February 5, 2001 5:17:11 PM

Actually, it IS sort of misleading because many people refer to the T-Bird as "Athlon."

As for why the classic Athlon is so expensive <shrug> that's anyobody's guess. I would think it has something to do with the cost to manufacture. The Slot A Athlon probably just used more expensive and less efficient parts.

Charles
February 5, 2001 5:25:37 PM

you are right, I changed my post, but I still stand by what I've said.

oh my, lunch time is almost over!
Anonymous
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February 6, 2001 11:28:56 AM

Really Fugger and I thought you did some research into what you post.... AMD make all kinds of stuff , if you want to know more go read up on the website....

M

one of the first UK T-Bird users....
Anonymous
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February 6, 2001 1:29:10 PM

so amd makes tons of [-peep-] huh??? well they make some other stuff but how come this is the first year out of the red if they make soooo much stuff... i think i know its because they don't make stuff the make tons of [-peep-].
Anonymous
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February 6, 2001 1:53:29 PM

Why don't you just F**k off back to whatever whole you crept out from, AMD make scsi controller chips , chipsets,memory and embedded CPU's ..... and just cos they have not been doing very well does not mean they only make one thing , it is obvious you know nothing about this kind of thing so why don't you do us all a favour and quit the forum until you have something intelligent to say

one of the first UK T-Bird users....
February 6, 2001 6:40:09 PM

Post deleted by AmdMeltdown
February 6, 2001 6:42:29 PM

He feels lonely now since <b>BiteMeOff</b> at Old Tom's Hardware Forum has switched side when he bought AMD ThunderBird system. He is the <b>ONLY ONE</b> that bashing AMD over there.
February 6, 2001 6:48:02 PM

<b>it's clearly obvious who's the price/performance/stability winner!</b>
Hmmm....
<b>$254 1 Ghz P3.
$180 1 GHz Thunderbird.
That's $74 difference.
http://www.pricewatch.com&lt;/b>
February 6, 2001 8:21:47 PM

The first time you tried this BS most of us chalked it up to an error on your part. Now you are just trying to be deceptive. I know you are calling it a "Classic" but the fact remains that the current Athlons whip the P3's p:p .

Be a big boy and try not to obfuscate everything.
February 6, 2001 9:26:00 PM

first of all you are sniffing crack, which you shouldn't be doing at 13 years of age.





second, you are comparing it to a classic athlon. AMD doesn't bother with those anymore, stupid. Obviously you haven't heard.

UPDATE:

$259 1GHz P3
$179 1GHz Thunderbird


$90 difference

it's very clear who is the price/performance/stability winner. source is www.pricewatch.com


3rd, the price of the Athlon Classic isn't going up. If you knew how to read and weren't blind you would see the little red arrow pointing down.

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
February 6, 2001 9:27:32 PM

Obviously you haven't done any research. AMD makes a lot more than processors too. All Intel does is copy other companies.

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
February 6, 2001 9:28:34 PM

Yet another post where you make a complete ass of yourself. The count is still rising!

(P.S. Thanks for the laugh at your brain power and stupidity, even for a 13 year old.)

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
February 6, 2001 9:59:45 PM

ole grizley need I remind you that it is you that looks like an ass?
even your amd buddies will agree with me!

anyway I corrected the post and it stands "as is" and I stand by what I said, the Classic Athlon is much more expensive than the P3 @1ghz period.

and why is the Classic Athlon more expensive than the t-bird? yields?, my a**.

get up off your brain and answer that!

read into it all you want but out there someone is buying the Classic Athlon 1ghz figuring he/she is saving money over the P3@1ghz.
February 6, 2001 10:06:47 PM

Well, looks like another one of your slacker no brain posts again.

First of all, everyone on this forum thinks you are an ass. Even FUGGER. Another example of how blind and stupid you really are.

"get up off your brain and answer that!" How the hell can I sit on my brain, dumbass?

"read into it all you want but out there someone is buying the Classic Athlon 1ghz figuring he/she is saving money over the P3@1ghz. " Nobody, unless they're related to you, would buy an Athlon Classic.

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
February 6, 2001 10:27:10 PM

>>"get up off your brain and answer that!"How the hell can I sit on my brain, dumbass?"

do I have to explain? will someone clue him in.


over 1000 post later and you're still clueless!
February 6, 2001 10:29:43 PM

Just MORE proof of how stupid you are.

go to www.dictionary.com and look up sarcasm. those american elementary schools must really suck.

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
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February 7, 2001 1:09:23 AM

Shut up. Speaking as the owner of an Intel system you are meking us all look bad. I don't want people to think we are all as imature as you!

BTW-The fact that I agree with you half the time does not mean I support you all the time-your on your own on this one!

Suicide is painless...........
February 7, 2001 1:32:45 AM

Athlon classic 1ghz and 950 have gone up due to the fact that production has been cut back. It's a chip with no more future upgrades. Socket A is where the production is and I hear even socket 7 k6 chips are not long for this world. It's a simple supply a demand equation that AMD meltdown perverted. He's an idiot.
Here's the way AMDMeltdown thinks- "ok lets do price performance P2-333 $116, vs. Thunderbird-850 $105."
It's obvious to anyone that at this point price performance is out the window- what makes the ghz classic cost more is the fact that it is the best chip that will ever be made for that platform and production is dropping. Of course it's gonna go up.

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Anonymous
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February 7, 2001 3:31:12 AM

Yikes.... haven't really been on these boards in a while... the feces is really beginning to fly. When did everyone start flaming each other? Downright nasty. Yep yep, damn shame, damn shame. Liked this board too. Kinda reminds me of the old THG messageboards, the ones on delphi. Kind of amusing, though.
February 7, 2001 5:59:12 AM

Sorry to be a grammer nazi, but shouldnt this be "biased idiots"?
Quote:
So for those of you who are unbiased idiots you should do your homework, decide how much you want to spend, and then buy your processor with that in mind.

Just making sure the proper idiots were accounted for!
February 7, 2001 2:08:46 PM

LOL, i need a good laugh you people crack me up.

First person to get a topic banned. ABIT BP6 Lives FOREVER!!!
February 7, 2001 4:55:11 PM

<font color=red><b><i>QUIET!!!!!!! ALL OF YOU!!!!!</i></b></font color=red>
February 8, 2001 12:36:00 AM

I agree JG. Let's guess what he will compare next. A K5 to the P4?

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February 8, 2001 1:34:52 AM

Shut up!

Suicide is painless...........
Anonymous
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February 8, 2001 1:58:40 AM

Here is some results of test I did on this . The test show that sometime the AMD is better other time the P3 is better .See for your self . I have emailed this to Tom and he was insulted

How can my test show different results from yours if you are actually using proprietary benchmarking software that is unavailable to me? A different benchmark gives different results and in fact I am trying to stick to real >world benchmarks as much as I can.

I don't apprecaite your slight implication that my testing would not be reliable. What claims to fame in terms of benchmarking have you got ?

Regards,

Tom


If you would like the source code and exe Email me !

Yvon
1 Ghz Thunderbird on Via at 100 mhz FSB
Image processing performance
Execution time: 96.472317 ms (nPixel: 1048576)
Execution time: 43.765339 ms (nPixel: 524288)
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MMX processing performance
Execution time: 86.603186 ms (nPixel: 1048576)
Execution time: 43.776513 ms (nPixel: 524288)
Execution time: 21.945527 ms (nPixel: 262144)
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Execution time: 1.065219 ms (nPixel: 16384)
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Copy performance
Execution time: 6.760636 ms (nPixel: 1048576) (155.100206 mb/s)
Execution time: 3.559112 ms (nPixel: 524288) (147.308673 mb/s)
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Execution time: 0.035200 ms (nPixel: 32768) (930.908973 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.008102 ms (nPixel: 16384) (2022.319492 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.005308 ms (nPixel: 8192) (1543.349086 mb/s)


P3 866 on 815 with 100 mhz sdram

Image processing performance
Execution time: 45.381174 ms (nPixel: 1048576)
Execution time: 20.423540 ms (nPixel: 524288)
Execution time: 10.093179 ms (nPixel: 262144)
Execution time: 5.022704 ms (nPixel: 131072)
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Execution time: 1.266362 ms (nPixel: 32768)
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Execution time: 0.096381 ms (nPixel: 8192)



MMX processing performance
Execution time: 39.813708 ms (nPixel: 1048576)
Execution time: 20.059806 ms (nPixel: 524288)
Execution time: 9.996798 ms (nPixel: 262144)
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Execution time: 1.264686 ms (nPixel: 32768)
Execution time: 0.610133 ms (nPixel: 16384)
Execution time: 0.096381 ms (nPixel: 8192)



Copy performance
Execution time: 5.647923 ms (nPixel: 1048576) (185.656924 mb/s)
Execution time: 3.028038 ms (nPixel: 524288) (173.144479 mb/s)
Execution time: 1.437333 ms (nPixel: 262144) (182.382217 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.610133 ms (nPixel: 131072) (214.825208 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.254781 ms (nPixel: 65536) (257.224920 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.051962 ms (nPixel: 32768) (630.615932 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.013410 ms (nPixel: 16384) (1221.818368 mb/s)
Execution time: 0.008381 ms (nPixel: 8192) (977.454694 mb/s)
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February 8, 2001 3:41:01 AM

Huh? What? Al I did is tell someone to shut up! I personally own a PIII, I think that AMD makes a great processor, I only built a PIII system because of problems I had with VIA, which were not related to performance, but stability and compatability, based on the unique attributes of my system. People with other systems may experience fewer (or even no) problems or differnet problems with VIA.

Suicide is painless...........
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