why the stupidity

you will come across problems with VIA chipsets but the CPU's there is not much to choose between them as for heat the tbirds do run hotter than PIII's but are of similar design so can have a misfited HSF jus as easily, I aslo own both systems and have had similar experience as you but a friend of mine have several problems with an identical setup to mine.....
remember though most ppl here talk from experience so most of the complaints have foundation...

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UK Prices are <font color=red>toooooooooo</font color=red> high , keep competition going to bring em down :smile:

mistakes are made from people not reading into the topic enough before building a box, and not applying the thermal compound correctly, i agree that the Athlons run hotter for the same clock speed and the fact that people have problems after shipping due to heatsinks loosening and so on, but then again a bit of information on the subject will stop mistakes being made, if i, at my level of experience can build an AMD box that runs just under 30 degrees idle maybe up to 35-40 when under full load there shouldnt be many problems, considering that i chose to go against buying an expensive heatsink and just went for a cheap one with thermal compound pre aplied costing me under $10 why waste money buying an intel
Then again prices in england are crazy having to pay the same price in pounds as they do in dollars in the states is getting beyond a joak

I agree that properly installed T-birds don't have a heat problem. They DO run hotter, but to some extent that is accounted for in the design. However, since they lack on-chip heat protection (which I understand Pentiums have), they are more vulnerable when something goes wrong. This is the basis for a lot of the posts I have read slamming AMD. But if you do your homework and install the chip, fan, and heatsink properly and equip the system with a good motherboard with temp monitoring/failsafe in the BIOS they should run with no problem what-so-ever. I have a T-bird 750 that can run at 1GHz overclocked and still stays in the 40-48 degree C range. And you can't beat the price!

Can you say, "run on sentence?"

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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.

I wish I could but I really can't because my 8th grade teacher was a real pain in the arse and I never really wanted to listen to her on top of the fact that it was at the end of the day and who really can concentrate at that point especially since I had soccer games immediately after and I had to get mentally prepared for the game because I was on a pretty good team and I had to really concentrate so that I didn't get the boot because my coach was REALLY strict which is how I learned to do so well at things and why I went to college and got my engineering degree so that I could understand what people write about in here and that has really helped me decide on my next computer purchase which I can't wait for because I am really excited to crank up the graphics on UT and also buy Sacrifice which has gotten some really great reviews including on gamecenter where everyone got the boot recently.

read that really fast and it's funny as hell

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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.

Hey somebodys gotta support the Queen.

Smashing!!!!

I love you guys!

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