Another one bites the dust!!!

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Kyle:
They day here has sucked ass. I watched ANOTHER 1.2 GHz Athlon burn before my very eyes. I was running some heatsink tests with a special setup that had a layer of insulation between the CPU and ceramic of the heatsink when the clip popped off. I had the core up to well over 150ºF for about 2 minutes (burning in the TIM), when SPRING! The damn clip JUST POPPED OFF. Now this is 100% my own fault since it is apparent I did not have it clipped properly, but just to see it happen before your very eyes like that was freaky. It went, SPRING, BLUE SCREEN, BLUE SMOKE, all in seconds, before I could get to the power. What a damn bummer. AMD needs to learn a lesson from Intel on this and do something to remedy this, it is just ridiculous that their cores are that fragile. Just my opinion.


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Who'd have thought, and AMD meltdown story brought to this forum by none other than AmdMeltdown. He must search the entire web for these things. We already know. You don't have to keep teling us. As an Intel user, even I can't stand to here your constant blathering. You made your point about 2 months ago, now go away.

Suicide is painless...........

Why the hell would anyone want to put an insulator <b>over the ceramic package</b>?

Oh well, poof! Silcon is cheap. Too bad CPU's aren't.

Talk about repetitive. Meltdown, can't you find anything better to do? Go ram a couple RDRAM modules up your buttocks, you Intel lovin' freak.

To Bad it wsa not his brian that burned!!

Ok, we all know if your heatsink comes loose your chip is toast. So what! What is the chance of that ever happening more then a hand full of times worldwide? Honestly what are the chances? >.01% if even that high. If you’re so worried about your AMD burning up how do u leave the house. The chances of getting shot in a drive bye shooting or killed in an auto accident are many times higher. Also I would like some one to flip of their heat sink on a PIII and see if the thermal protection kicks in fast enough. This whole “AMD suck because they lack of thermal protection” argument epitomizes the pathetic means Intel fanatics have to use to justify there superiority.

Cya


<font color=green>Paranoia is just a higher awareness of reality.</font color=green>

Dumbass, he says it's his very own fault. Big deal (although that would really suck).

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

sorry bro, but I am not here to seek approval from amd puppies and I certainly know where I stand in terms of getting the most out of a computer system whoever the hell makes it!

somethings have to be repeated to get through to some thick skull around here!

"Amd cpu...Gone in -60 secs!"

the only thick skull that we can't get anything through to is yours.........

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

Sounds like the main problem was that you could not get to your camera quick enough to capture that 'special' moment. I've only heard about blue smoke, but never actually seen it. I feel left out......

Meltdown, I'm no puppy. I just find you annoying.

In fact I think the zealots on either side (and yes you are as much an intel puppy as any amd puppy here) are rather boring. I own both an intel and an amd system. There are merits and pitfalls to both. I'll be the first to admit that AMD aint for everyone but I happen to be confident about working through hardware problems and AMD's price can't be beat.

My AMD system performs like a dream.

Bit offpost this. Mousepotato: Some Ford engines allow operation without coolant. In the emergency mode one or more injectors are shut off in cyclic fashion to allow the cylinders to cool down.

If Ford can do it AMD should too. Otherwise, great little processors those Athlons.

PS. Please don't flame about this. I just couldn't resist... :-)

Sami

Because you probably put tons of that junk on there. you're only supposed to have a tiny little bit.

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

is there an echo in this thread? why is everybody repeating what the last person said?

also, this didn't happen to me! read it and get a clue or it will happen to YOU!

"Amd cpu...Gone in 2 secs!"

You can't get too much of a good thing

This is why I thought that slot processors were better - the heatsink stood upright in a tower case so even if the clips fell off it still might do some cooling. Ah well, maybe I can find a slocket for an AMD system and make my Thunderbird run on a slot a board. (Yeah yeah I know they don't exist).

Guess we could all use desktop cases again? :0

~ I'm not AMD biased, I just think their chips are better. ~

I do not think half the people actually read what started this thread. just a bunch of AMD lemmings chiming in like clockwork. brainless as they are.

AMDmeltdowns point is even tho you have masters degree in CS, AMD is still a POS. The current design makes the chip have a lifespan of a bic lighter.

If cheap is what you want, cheap is what you got.

Kinda funny that alot of people thought kyle was you and you burnt your own CPU out =P. clueless AMD lemmings at work.

BTW grizely1, all the thermal compund in the world will not correct the lack of thermal protection in AMD processors. GG

request@amd.com gets forwarded to file13@amd.com

Since AMD does not have customer service, QA, or R&D budgeted for 2001.

you're the one who needs to stay on topic. I never said anything of the sort. That would actually reverse the process and make it heat even faster1 *DUMMIE*

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Oh and thanks for telling us that AKI for the billionth time, like we don't know. I even admitted it was a stupid thing to do, although I could care less if the CPU i bought had thermal protection. sorry, when i buy a cpu i don't look to see if it has thermal protection

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"648kb is all the space anyone would ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Grizely1 on 03/05/01 05:12 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Gee... I was wondering how long it would take Fugger to get involved in this Anti-AMD post. And they call us lemmings.
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What's a signature? Oh, those words that show up after all my comments? I don't need one of those!

AMD lemmings?
whatever happened to the AMD puppies? or intel indiots?
sorry, but you and amdmeltdown call THG biased, he is as biased as you are un-biased

Jump, Jump Now!!

some of your post makes sense but you really must make sure you are not living in a glass house before you throw stones... you used the word ATTAIN when the correct word (in context) is OBTAIN...... sorry!

Isn't it interesting how a person can submit a completely intelligent post and before the day is through, it becomes a name-calling idiotic frenzy with no intellectual content whatsoever?

It's funny, but it's sad. The idealism of a forum seems to have been long lost because it's an open forum and any idiot can have their say, no matter how mindless it is.

For example, I could go on for hours pointing out how stupid some people represent themselves in the above posts. But I won't. Because they're only going to respond with the same stupidity and that gets boring. Appearance you can fix with plastic surgery. Ignorance you can change with learning. But stupidity is forever, and I'm just tired of dealing with stupid people.

I agree though, AMD chips need thermal protection. Not because we expect to run them without heat sinks properly attached, but because accidents happen. The world is not the ideal place that we would all like it to be. If I spend over a grand on a new system, that system better darn well give me every insurance against breaking. And since most of us here don't buy from OEMs, that means that the insurance has to come in the form of things like thermal protection because we won't be seeing any 3 year complete system waranties.

And hopefully soon AMD chips will have this, and have multiple-CPU system support. I'd like to see it. Then (at least for the chips out today) AMD really will fit all of my needs. But there in itself is the catch, because future chips may themselves be considerably more interesting than current chips. So for either system to be 'the best' they have to win all categories. Heh heh. I just don't see that happening.

I see instead that both companies will be producing chips that meet the needs of individuals, not the entire computing genre wholely.

Though while I too get tired of hearing the same old deficiencies in both AMD and Intel systems, I thought this was a rather interesting post to see that someone who runs a professional business working with PCs can make a mistake.

I think that was the most important piece of information that anyone could take away from this post. Not that AMD chips need thermal protection. We all know that. Instead we could learn that each of us has the potential to do something stupid and each piece of hardware has the potential to at some time break. Crap happens. It's a good thing to learn because none of us are perfect.

- Sanity is purely based on point-of-view.