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Anonymous   01-15-2002 at 07:48:12 PM

Hello, i have a question....

I recently bought a simple gaming network kit, 2*100mbps + cable and connected my comp (W2K) on another (WindowsME).

Everything works like a charm.

I noticed an option in my internet properties called 'Enable Internet connection sharing for this connection.'
Well, this works also, i was a bitt surprised.
Too easy...
So, the other comp with WINME also now has internet.

The question.

Is my computer sending out the other IP too, when connected?
Or is only my computer IP seen?? Because it does all the work for the other computer internetting.

Well, thanx in advance!

-ESH-

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Arrow   01-16-2002 at 03:51:58 AM
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Your client computer would have an internal IP. It would be just like connecting through a proxy.

Rob
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Anonymous   01-16-2002 at 09:59:13 AM
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Thanx Rob, for your answer...

but does this mean that my cablecompany only sees my computer and not the other too?

Im a newbie to all of this and i dont want to get kicked from the net by my cablecompany because of this...so is it save?

well, let me know...

Thanx,

-ESH-

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CALV   01-16-2002 at 10:34:39 AM
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if you only have 1 pc directly connected to the cable connection, then they will see only one.

Next time you wave - use all your fingers

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Anonymous   01-16-2002 at 11:31:44 AM
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call me stupid...but if my cablecompany would scan my connection, the only IP they would see is my own computer(W2K) even when the other computer (WinME) is online ?!

Only my computer (W2K) is directly connected to the cable connection.

So once again....is it save??....yes or no?!

sorry for asking again but i just need to know for sure...

Thanx, -ESH-

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CALV   01-16-2002 at 11:56:08 AM
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no probs, the answer is yes, they will see only one connection.


Next time you wave - use all your fingers

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jlanka   01-16-2002 at 01:53:01 PM
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Yes it's safe. it's completely safe. It's so safe it's totally unimagineable. It's probably the safest thing known to man. In the history of the world, there was never anything safer. It's so safe that the word safe starts to lose it's meaning.

It's:
<font color=red>SAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFE
SAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFE
SAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFE
SAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFE
SAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFESAFE</font color=red>


Now don't pull any of my teeth, doc. ;-)

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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Anonymous   01-16-2002 at 02:58:32 PM
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hehe....

Thanx....

now i can live in peace...

Cheers,

-ESH-

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Arrow   01-17-2002 at 08:06:06 AM
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Don't give yourself too many worries :)

Rob
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jihiggs   01-18-2002 at 10:47:52 PM
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actually, they can tell that there are 2 computers using it, by the host name. but 99% of the time they dont care. if they ever do say somthing tell them to f*ck off and get another providor. they cant cancel you for it though.

i went to the tomshardware forums and all i got was this lousy signature.

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jlanka   01-19-2002 at 07:22:33 PM
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they can tell that there are 2 computers using it, by the host name


If you're using NAT? They'd have to decode the packets, and from what I remember NAT only has something in the header which is akey to a table lookup that the NAT translator uses to reconstruct the packet with the actual IP address and forward it. Never thought there were any names involved.

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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jihiggs   01-19-2002 at 11:45:15 PM
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internet connection sharing shows both names. there is no encryption with packets, its just encapsulation and packets are striped when it goes back up the layers on the server side. i seriously doubt most isp's would go higher than the network header, it would slow things down.

i went to the tomshardware forums and all i got was this lousy signature.

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jlanka   01-20-2002 at 12:45:40 AM
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When I say "decode" I'm not talking about encryption, I'm talking about tossing a sniffer on there to examine the packets. But the bottom line question is, does ICS do NAT? If not, how does it get away with one IP address? I think it has to.

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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jihiggs   01-20-2002 at 01:00:08 AM
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it goes in their transmision logs. if they want to look them over they will see two names. i dont know much about ics, i never used it. im pretty sure nat just translates external ip's into private and visa versa, the host name is still sticks.

i went to the tomshardware forums and all i got was this lousy signature.

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jlanka   01-21-2002 at 02:19:54 PM
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Wrong. There are no names involved. Just IP addresses.

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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Anonymous   01-22-2002 at 09:37:35 AM
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It seems like a case could be made on what IP addresses were visited during specific time periods. For example: 1 computer couldn't possibly be updating win2000 and windows 98 updating at the exact same moment in time, but I could easily do it with my home network using ICS. A service provider with some of the right tools could probably figure this out, I'm imagining.

Couldn't service providers be touchier than they are now for this? It seems like there could be a lot of money sueing for lost bandwidth or licensing or...

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