[DoomRL] Poll, please vote ;-)

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Ok, here goes.

DISCLAIMER: This vote by no means forces me to do anything. I retain the
right to do it my way disregarding the results. I just want to get a general
overview of what people statisticaly would like and what not ;-)

Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.

1. Remove Assault Shotgun.

2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

3. The new Shotgun implementation

4. New Weapon : Railgun

5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

8. New Dodge system

9. "Bullet time" dodge system

10. Proposed difficulty level system

11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system

12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

13. More realism

14. Keep limited inventory

regards,
Kornel Kisielewicz

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1 Against. I like shooting off 4 shells, ducking behind a wall,
reloading, and repeating.
2 If the stats dont change, for
3 Against. Why bother making the shotgun hold 4 shells when you already
have something that does that?
4 Yes.
5 Hmm... Maybe.
6 Yes. Another 9mm bullet eater would be good.
7 HELL YES!
8 Yes.
9 Maybe leaning towards against. Not really the matrix, wouldn't really
give a advantage that i could see...
10 Yes. It'd let everyone enjoy and possibly finish the game.
11 Yes! Making the computer fudge the creature spawning calculations so
that there's more baddies or ammo in there would be sweet.
12 Why not? Yes.
13 YES, but only if it's fair. Moving behind a wall to reload is fun
(gives some more action to the game) but knowing that you'd lose a
fight against 4 or more semi-weak enemies with a chaingun wouldn't be
fun.
14 Not really needed. You should only have a few weapons/ammo types
anyways.

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> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.

For

> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

For

> 3. The new Shotgun implementation

For

> 4. New Weapon : Railgun

Against (not a Doom weapon! what next - Shuriken Cannons????)

> 5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

See above

> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

See above

> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

See above

> 8. New Dodge system

Definitely for

> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system

Against (I think this would be too literal a copy of the original
games)

> 10. Proposed difficulty level system

Against

> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system

Mildly for

> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

Against (use a pistol, mate!)

> 13. More realism

Against (like the original Doom was realistic...?!)
> 14. Keep limited inventory

For

A.

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Kornel Kisielewicz wrote:
> Ok, here goes.
>
> DISCLAIMER: This vote by no means forces me to do anything. I retain
> the right to do it my way disregarding the results. I just want to
> get a general overview of what people statisticaly would like and
> what not ;-)
>
> Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>
> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.

Absolutely. Get that thing out, tweak the behavior of the default shotgun.

> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

Sure, why not?

> 3. The new Shotgun implementation

Yup, one of them at least

> 4. New Weapon : Railgun

Yes

> 5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

No

> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

No

> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

Sure

> 8. New Dodge system

Depends entirely on implementation, I've only seen it mentioned in bits and
pieces - you should have included the details here

> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system

Same deal

> 10. Proposed difficulty level system

Follow Doom's difficulty levels

> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system

Yes

> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

Absolutely not O_o Where did this come from?

> 13. More realism

Lord no!

> 14. Keep limited inventory

Absolutely

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"Kornel Kisielewicz" <kisielewicz@gazeta.pl> wrote:
>Ok, here goes.
>
>DISCLAIMER: This vote by no means forces me to do anything. I retain the
>right to do it my way disregarding the results. I just want to get a general
>overview of what people statisticaly would like and what not ;-)
>
>Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>
>1. Remove Assault Shotgun.
>
>2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

No. The axe is more fun to roleplay especially when you get a beserker
pack.

>3. The new Shotgun implementation
>
>4. New Weapon : Railgun
>
>5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

Neither of these are Doomish.

>6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

What about an autopistol?

>7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)
>
>8. New Dodge system
>
>9. "Bullet time" dodge system
>
>10. Proposed difficulty level system

I haven't read it. I think at the wimpiest difficulty you should
occasionally have to fight biting bunny rabbits to remind you what a
giant sissy you are.

>11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
>
>12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

No.

>13. More realism
>
>14. Keep limited inventory

Maybe let you carry one of each type of weapon and limited ammo for
each.

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Kornel Kisielewicz wrote:
> Ok, here goes.
>
> DISCLAIMER: This vote by no means forces me to do anything. I retain
the
> right to do it my way disregarding the results. I just want to get a
general
> overview of what people statisticaly would like and what not ;-)
>
> Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.

How about having an options setting were you can select 'use only
classic doom weapons' or 'include extra weapons'. Just a thought.

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> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

how about both? pessing the '1' again will switch between them?

> 4. New Weapon : Railgun

for

> 5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

for

> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

for

> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

for

> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system

against (keep things simple- IMHO this will make the gameplay more
complicated without adding much to it)

> 10. Proposed difficulty level system

against

11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system

for

12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

for

13. More realism

against (a game should be as fun as possible, if it means less
realistic)

14. Keep limited inventory

for (people shouldn't carry an entire military supply in their backpack
- and it's more doom-like: limited ammo.)

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Kornel Kisielewicz schrieb:
> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.
Against
> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe
NoOpinion
> 3. The new Shotgun implementation
For
> 4. New Weapon : Railgun
For
> 5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun
For
> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun
For
> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)
For
> 8. New Dodge system
For
> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system
Against
> 10. Proposed difficulty level system
NoOpinion
> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
NoOpinion
> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun
For
> 13. More realism
Against
> 14. Keep limited inventory
For

So Long, The Werelion!

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> For realism i said yes. Now, it may seem insane but read me:
> - If the shotgun pellets acted realistically they would be unable to do
> much damage at long range, not because so few pellets hit but because
> the pellets would become less powerful the longer the distance they
> traveled. Possibly the same for a Imp's and Caco's fire ball/energy
> ball; it'd burn itself out of existance/dissapate it's energy if it
> traveled far and long enough.
> - If the chaingun acted realistically the bullets wouldn't all move in
> the same strait line, but would instead stray one or two tiles in a
> different direction, giving a more realistic spread. Same for the other
> multi-shot weapons, like the Plasma gun and the proposed SMG... Such a
> thing could also be useful, killing nearby enemies but also dangerous
> at the same time by hitting a nearby barrel.
> - Melee weapons would be deadlier; chainsaws can do a *lot* of damage
> to meaty subjects, and someone trained in knife combat can take someone
> down very easilly.
> - Ammo and powerful weapons would be very difficult to come by... they
> would only be held on dead bodies and armories.
>
> Now, i do not... nay, i never suggest anything to do with absolute
> realism; Nor do i suggest total fantasy. Properly thought out realism
> ideas like the four above would work well with any game, but it's the
> "Realism is absolute" idea/thought that turns everyone (or almost
> everyone) away from putting in some sort of realism mechanic(s) in
> their game. As well, if there's a bit more realism and Kornel puts
> headshots into the game he'd also put something in to counter it, im
> sure, like a helmet (that actually does something) with multiple
> versions going from basic to elite.

For. :-) In fact I support fully all the ideas, especially the leading one
about not-so-absolute-but-anyway-realism. Physics works also in s-f.

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Kornel Kisielewicz .-- .-. --- - . ---...

> Ok, here goes.
>
> DISCLAIMER: This vote by no means forces me to do anything. I retain the
> right to do it my way disregarding the results. I just want to get a general
> overview of what people statisticaly would like and what not ;-)
>
> Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>
> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.
+ it's the new shotgun implementation anyway AFAIK
> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe
+
> 3. The new Shotgun implementation
+
> 4. New Weapon : Railgun
+
> 5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun
+
> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun
+
> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)
no opinion
> 8. New Dodge system
no opinion
> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system
-
> 10. Proposed difficulty level system
+
> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
+
> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun
Against for chaingun, I vote for single mode for submachine gun and dbl
shotgun

> 13. More realism
+
> 14. Keep limited inventory
?- Keep limited but not of actual size if new weapons and probably ammo
will be introduced.

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Marcus wrote:
> Kornel Kisielewicz wrote:
>> 8. New Dodge system
>
> Depends entirely on implementation, I've only seen it mentioned in
> bits and pieces - you should have included the details here

The one I wrote in "Design Issues - Results"

>> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system
>
> Same deal

The one proposed that bullets will hang in mid air.

>> 10. Proposed difficulty level system
>
> Follow Doom's difficulty levels

That is a "Against" right?

>> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
>
> Yes
>
>> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun
>
> Absolutely not O_o Where did this come from?

Loonie ;-).

regards,
Kornel Kisielewicz

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Timofei Shatrov wrote:
>> Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>>
>> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.
>
> Never encountered one... As such, it must be rare, so it's probably
> ok.

It's basically a shotgun with a four bullet magazine.

>> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe
>
> Either way no one uses them.

People do ;-). That's a For Against or NoOpinion?

>> 3. The new Shotgun implementation
>
> I think the old shotgun was already much better than pistol, so no
> need to overpower it even more.

The shotgun will be rebalanced.
That's a Against or NoOpinion?

>> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun
>> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)
> Maybe, although I prefer more ego-weapons introduced. Double shotgun
> of dodging! Cool, eh?

That's a For or NoOpinion?

>> 8. New Dodge system
>> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system
> What are these again?

New Dodge system is the one proposed in "Design Issues - Results". Bullet
time is the system, where bullets fly so they can hang in mid air when you
have your turn. (like BulletTime in Matrix ;D)

>> 10. Proposed difficulty level system
>> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
> Standard one.

That means Against and For, right?

>> 12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun
> No. BTW, am I the only one who prefers shooting monsters with chaingun
> after finding one?

Some people do.

regards,
Kornel Kisielewicz

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Uzytkownik wrote:
> (Very sorry for the 3x post earlier, but google groups isn't exactly
> perfect.)
> Now that my internet is working properly, i'll give my reasons for
> what i said and hopefully sway some of your opionions over to "yes":
>
> For the shotgun alterations i said no. This is because... well...
> "standard shotgun will have ­a magazine of 4. One pressing of 'r' will
> pump one shell into the magazine, t­he second [press in a row] will
> reload all shells"
> It's exactly as the assualt shotgun is. Why make all that time spent
> coding in the assualt shotgun a waste? Just make the shotgun reload
> faster or the assualt reload slower if you think it's underused or
> over-shadowed by the other shotties. As well, there are always shotgun
> shells laying around the base and it never hurts to find new ways to
> eat a common (possibly *the* most common) ammo type.

People want a shotgun that can be used quickly and ahotgun-like. Assault
shotgun was a rare weapon. Also coding in assault shotgun took 5 minutes, so
it's not a waste ;-).

> The Railgun could peirce walls and enemies, not necessarilly be a
> 1-hitter, but certainly powerful... It'd need it's own ammo, but that
> wouldn't be too bad. The Lightning gun would finally provide a use for
> the pools of water generated on levels and could make a sort of
> chain-lightning effect... And another eater of power cells. Now, the
> last two may not be from the Doom series, but they're still *possible*
> in the Doom universe. After all, who said this took place during doom
> 1? or doom 3? or doom 6? (and if Kornel did please say so) As well,
> having hordes of ravenous demons after your ass will make you want to
> explore more powerful weaponery choices. Surely the BFG 9000 isn't the
> best the UAC can come up with!

:-). I understand your arguments. But I'm not fully convinced.

> For realism i said yes. Now, it may seem insane but read me:
> - If the shotgun pellets acted realistically they would be unable to
> do much damage at long range, not because so few pellets hit but
> because the pellets would become less powerful the longer the
> distance they traveled.

This WILL be fixed - it's a bug.

> Possibly the same for a Imp's and Caco's fire
> ball/energy ball; it'd burn itself out of existance/dissapate it's
> energy if it traveled far and long enough.

Oh, I'm not sure about that.

> - If the chaingun acted realistically the bullets wouldn't all move in
> the same strait line, but would instead stray one or two tiles in a
> different direction, giving a more realistic spread. Same for the
> other multi-shot weapons, like the Plasma gun and the proposed SMG...

This is a little harder to code, but maybe...

> Such a thing could also be useful, killing nearby enemies but also
> dangerous at the same time by hitting a nearby barrel.

Khe he he.

> - Melee weapons would be deadlier; chainsaws can do a *lot* of damage
> to meaty subjects, and someone trained in knife combat can take
> someone down very easilly.

Try killing with Brute3+SoB3+Chainsaw+Berserk -- there isn't much more
things in DoomRL that can do sucha an amount of damage ;-)

> - Ammo and powerful weapons would be very difficult to come by... they
> would only be held on dead bodies and armories.

Mhmmm.

> As well, those new weapons may be used by enemies, and perhaps even
> bosses. Imagine the cyber demon cycling through a SMG, Rocket
> Launcher, and Rail gun... THAT would be a challenge worthy of a
> lightning gun or BFG 10k! And while we're on weapons, what about the
> soul cube?

Soul cube? You mean the boss from DII?

regards,
Kornel Kisielewicz

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:08:53 +0100, "Kornel Kisielewicz"
<kisielewicz@gazeta.pl> tried to confuse everyone with this message:

>Timofei Shatrov wrote:
>>> Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>>>
>>> 1. Remove Assault Shotgun.
>>
>> Never encountered one... As such, it must be rare, so it's probably
>> ok.
>
>It's basically a shotgun with a four bullet magazine.

So new shotgun makes it redundant.

>
>>> 2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe
>>
>> Either way no one uses them.
>
>People do ;-). That's a For Against or NoOpinion?
>

Against. As Crawl readme states, "axes are fun".

>>> 3. The new Shotgun implementation
>>
>> I think the old shotgun was already much better than pistol, so no
>> need to overpower it even more.
>
>The shotgun will be rebalanced.
>That's a Against or NoOpinion?

NoOpinion.

>
>>> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun
>>> 7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)
>> Maybe, although I prefer more ego-weapons introduced. Double shotgun
>> of dodging! Cool, eh?
>
>That's a For or NoOpinion?

NoOpinion.

>>> 8. New Dodge system
>>> 9. "Bullet time" dodge system
>> What are these again?
>
>New Dodge system is the one proposed in "Design Issues - Results". Bullet
>time is the system, where bullets fly so they can hang in mid air when you
>have your turn. (like BulletTime in Matrix ;D)

NoOpinion.

>>> 10. Proposed difficulty level system
>>> 11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system
>> Standard one.
>
>That means Against and For, right?

Yep.


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qvoting Kornel Kisielewicz <kisielewicz@gazeta.pl>:
>Ok, here goes.
>Vote: For/Against/NoOpinion.
>1. Remove Assavlt Shotgvn.

Yes.

>2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

Yes.

>3. The new Shotgvn implementation

Yes.

>4. New Weapon : Railgvn

No. (And, if yes, call it "sniper rifle" ).

>5. New Weapon : Lightning Gvn

I'm not svre what wovld make it vniqve.

>6. New Weapon : Svbmachine gvn

I think there's room for it between pistol and chaingvn, with the chaingvn
fovnd perhaps slightly later. Yes.

>7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

I'm not svre we need a svperweapon better than the BFG9K. What we really
need is something - like avgmented plasma rifles - that do for the
occasional barons' family revnion. No.

>8. New Dodge system

Yes.

>9. "Bvllet time" dodge system

No, it's vnworkable.

>10. Proposed difficvlty level system

No.

>11. Standard Doomish difficvlty level system

Yes. Two levels easier than the cvrrent one and two harder wovld be abovt
right, and that gives yov five from "I'm too yovng to die" to "Nightmare".
It shovld not be expected that people win at Nightmare, leaving one harder
level as a seriovs challenge for good players.

>12. Single-fire mode for the chaingvn

No.

>13. More realism

Absolvtely not.

>14. Keep limited inventory

Yes, bvt maybe have a bit more space.
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> > And while we're on weapons, what about the
> > soul cube?
>
> Soul cube? You mean the boss from DII?

No! It's the code-name for the new, in-development Microsoft gaming
console.

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Teleolurian wrote:
> New weapons are always good.
> The Limited Inventory makes this game more fun IMHO.


I assume all other questions "NoOpinion"? :-)

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On 1 Feb 2005 20:45:11 -0800, "Antoine" <mail@guildgame.com> wrote:

[...]
>> 4. New Weapon : Railgun
>
>Against (not a Doom weapon! what next - Shuriken Cannons????)
>
>> 6. New Weapon : Submachine gun
>
>See above

Actually, the SMG is present in Doom 3, under the name "Machine Gun".
Including this weapon is a matter of taste on whether or not the maintainer
wants to use Doom Classic weaponry, Doom 3 weaponry, or a mixture of both.

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:05:05 +0100, "Kornel Kisielewicz"
<kisielewicz@gazeta.pl> wrote:

>R. Dan Henry wrote:
>>> 14. Keep limited inventory
>>
>> Depends on what you replaced it with.
>
>Unlimited inventory ;-)

You'd need to be a bit more careful about what can be found, but I
think that could work. However, I'd rather see ammo taken out of
inventory (but with each type limited, not unlimited), along with a
single example of each weapon (give a "weapons quiver" with 7 slots
for the various classes of weapon and have the numerical quick-switch
keys use the quiver. So you can decide whether you want, e.g., the
shotgun or the double shotgun to be your convenient switch. Then you
could have a smaller inventory to make decisions regarding armors,
boots, helmets if you add them, phase devices, etc. This encourages
keeping and therefore learning to use effectively all types of weapons
and leaves the really interesting choices (really stock up on healing,
or make room for backup armors?) intact.

R. Dan Henry
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Great game. Here's my thoughts:

>1. Remove Assault Shotgun.

Against. The ol' AS is useful.

>2. Combat Knife instead of the Axe

No opinion; I'm not into melee.

>3. The new Shotgun implementation

Against. Sounds too fiddly, having to reload twice.

>4. New Weapon : Railgun

For. Perhaps with an enhanced field of vision so you could snipe?

>5. New Weapon : Lightning Gun

For.

>6. New Weapon : Submachine gun

For.

>7. New Weapon : BFG10k (hard to find)

For! Eat this, Cyberdemon!

>8. New Dodge system

No opinion.

>9. "Bullet time" dodge system

Against. Matrix this ain't.

>10. Proposed difficulty level system

For! It sounds great.

>11. Standard Doomish difficulty level system

No opinion. Might not work in a roguelike.

>12. Single-fire mode for the chaingun

Against! A chaingun that only fires one bullet is called a pistol.

>13. More realism

Against! in real life, demons don't pop out of portals to scare
hard-woring marines.

>14. Keep limited inventory
Against. Having to leave good stuff behind is frustrating.

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> 4) Armour doesnt protect against electricity.

Except such advanced armoury like latex boots, that will sucessfully
isolate from ground.

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quoting Kornel Kisielewicz <kisielewicz@gazeta.pl>:
>David Damerell wrote:
>>>14. Keep limited inventory
>>Yes, but maybe have a bit more space.
>Hmm like? Keeping it one-screen size is within the KISS principle.

More ammo in slots; allow one-shot devices such as health or phase devices
to stack 2 or 3 in a slot.

Unloading has effectively increased the size of the inventory thanks to
the lack of a need to carry multiple loaded chainguns or plasma.
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Hi,

I love DoomRL so much I just had to play it whereever I went

I installed the PocketDOS demo (yes, its payware - there is an
unofficial version of DosBox for PPC but DoomRL seems to crash with it
once it reaches the "enter your name stage" ), then copied over DoomRL
and CWSDPMI (Dos Protected Mode Interface, apparently, which it
complained about not having when run without) from
http://www.gnu-pascal.de/djgpp/csdpmi5b.zip. I also needed the Bochs CPU
emulator plugin from the PocketDOS site to support the 80386 features
DoomRL wanted (http://www.pocketdos.com/Misc/PDOS_BOCHS_CPU.zip).

This having been done, I had a lovely portable version of everyones
favourite lunchtime roguelike! Screenshot here:
http://www.omega-prime.co.uk/images/doomrl-ppc.png

You would not believe how slowly that rather cool blood effect between
menus crawls down the screen though.. great game Kornel, I await 1.0
with much eagerness

Max

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Max Bolingbroke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I love DoomRL so much I just had to play it whereever I went

You must be joking, right? :-D

> I installed the PocketDOS demo (yes, its payware - there is an
> unofficial version of DosBox for PPC but DoomRL seems to crash with it
> once it reaches the "enter your name stage" ), then copied over DoomRL
> and CWSDPMI (Dos Protected Mode Interface, apparently, which it
> complained about not having when run without) from
> http://www.gnu-pascal.de/djgpp/csdpmi5b.zip.

Yeah, it should be in the pack :-/

> I also needed the Bochs
> CPU emulator plugin from the PocketDOS site to support the 80386
> features DoomRL wanted
> (http://www.pocketdos.com/Misc/PDOS_BOCHS_CPU.zip). This having been done,
> I had a lovely portable version of everyones
> favourite lunchtime roguelike! Screenshot here:
> http://www.omega-prime.co.uk/images/doomrl-ppc.png

My god!

> You would not believe how slowly that rather cool blood effect between
> menus crawls down the screen though.. great game Kornel, I await 1.0
> with much eagerness

This is the most wild DoomRL post/mail I ever read :-D

A note of warning -- due to the prepared linux release I had to switch to
another video output driver -- I hope it doesn't ruin PPC compatibility...
On the other hand, the FPC team is talking something about a PPC FPC
compiler :-D. And another note -- you probably would benefit very much from
an option to turn off animations (bloodslides), and reducing animation
delay, right?
--
At your service,
Kornel Kisielewicz
DoomRL ( http://chaos.magma-net.pl/doom/ )

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Kornel Kisielewicz wrote:
>>You would not believe how slowly that rather cool blood effect between
>>menus crawls down the screen though.. great game Kornel, I await 1.0
>>with much eagerness
>
>
> This is the most wild DoomRL post/mail I ever read :-D
>
> A note of warning -- due to the prepared linux release I had to switch to
> another video output driver -- I hope it doesn't ruin PPC compatibility...
> On the other hand, the FPC team is talking something about a PPC FPC
> compiler :-D. And another note -- you probably would benefit very much from
> an option to turn off animations (bloodslides), and reducing animation
> delay, right?

This is very true As it stands it takes about a second for a move to
be processed once you press the key, which is just about bearable, but
waiting for enemy bullets to crawl towards you is a little irritating
Of course, on the other hand it lets you better appreciate the advanced
animation effects in DoomRL

Max Bolingbroke