Republican Terrorists trying to wreck the Global Economy

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Reynod

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http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Obama-Set-to-Meet-Congressional-Leaders-After-Debt-Talks-Collapse-126055468.html

If the Republican's can't strike a deal then the President should be able to lock them up for trying to wreck the economy ... and pass the bill he wants.

If you guys can't sort this out by August the 2nd it might wreck the fragile balance of the remaining world financial structures ... this is what your federal reserve are saying ... not me.

If the opposition party are trying to deliberately block legislation which would otherwise have a huge effect on the coutry itself ... then this should be seen as terrorism ... pure and simple.

The rest of the world are waiting for the US to sort out it's budget ... so sort it.

Jail the Republicans ... then pass the bill.

Discuss ...
 
JAYDEEJOHN

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For months, the liberal media has been touting Moody etc will degrade the US if we dont come up with the money.
The Dem liberals have touted the same wording, problem is, they omitted the rest of what they (Moody) has been saying all along
Now, get this right right here
The rest, the words the media and the dem liberals omitted are this:
The US has to reduce spending, not raise taxes and meet current debt, but to reduce spending
The media and the dems just wanted to lie to eveyone all this time and pretend its a taxation problem.
Theres no doubt on this, and shame anyone who says different, as theyre liars or doesnt know the facts.
So, I repeat, if the US doesnt lower spending by 4 trillion dollars, we get downgraded, and NO taxation will change this.
But, by reading what they want you to hear, and only writing what they want you to read, theyve been traitors to us all
 
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This relatively upbeat view is based on a number of different perspectives, but most important is the economy’s quickly improving balance sheet. In the aggregate, businesses are in very good financial health, households are rapidly deleveraging, and the financial system is now well capitalized. The most serious threat to this script is the federal government’s rising debt load. To realize our optimistic forecast, policymakers need to reduce future government spending and increase revenue. We expect they will in a reasonably timely way.

http://www.economy.com/dismal/article_free.asp?cid=199776
So, whats the most serious threat?
By lying and protecting the most serious threat, our dem leaders are a major threat themselves

PS Including their cronies, the liberal media
 
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Rey, both Libs and Cons are not wanting to work. That is the shyte they give the American people. It is a disgrace. The whole world economy relies on us...even powerful china. If we fall, they fall...so will Australia.
 
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Who said this:
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure."
Congressman Barack Obama, IL-D, 2006.

If it was bad then, why is it a good idea now?

Hey, reynod. I have a question for you. What if we did raise the debt limit. What happens next time?

Fiscal responsibility; if not now, when?
 
Reynod

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I agree not to raise the debt limit but to impose some harsher taxes instead, and to cut back on aid programs to other countries and have a strong internal focus for the short term.

Impose protective tariffs to stimulate manufacturing in the US etc ... see my post in the other thread.

The fact that the congress can't find a solution means something needs to be done immediately ...

What you do and how is difficult ... I only used an inflammatory title in the thread so people would take a stance and post something.

I am not some liberal "save the whales" squeegee either ... lol.
 
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When I had to take the mandatory US History & Gov't classes during my undgrad days (which I satisfied in summer school at Georgetown University, here in Washington DC), the idea of taxing the wealthy at a higher percentage of income than the poor was called a "progressive" tax. That struck me as quite the misnomer (and wrong) at the time - why penalize the wealthy for being wealthy?

I'd be for a flat, but universal, tax rate so that corporations like GE can't get away with paying zero income tax, but not so onerous as to drive them offshore. And I'd agree with a tariff on most imports as well, to the same degree as if the company selling or importing them were a US company paying income tax. That would put a damper on China, Inc. which essentially does just what I suggested above..
 
MU_Engineer

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Not quite. The Founders of the U.S. specifically wanted to prevent there from being a king and worded the Constitution to prevent one from occurring. Not only can Congressmen generally not be jailed, Congress has to pass legislation before the President can choose whether or not to sign it into law. No President can either lock up Congressmen nor pass legislation completely by himself. He can write executive orders, but they are limited in scope and cannot be spending bills as only the House of Representatives can submit spending bills.

Anyway, if the President could lock up other politicians for "wrecking the economy," the jails would be overcrowded as Republican presidents would lock up Democrats and vice-versa.

If you guys can't sort this out by August the 2nd it might wreck the fragile balance of the remaining world financial structures ... this is what your federal reserve are saying ... not me.

If the opposition party are trying to deliberately block legislation which would otherwise have a huge effect on the coutry itself ... then this should be seen as terrorism ... pure and simple.

The rest of the world are waiting for the US to sort out it's budget ... so sort it.

Jail the Republicans ... then pass the bill.

Discuss ...
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Both parties are playing "chicken" and resorting to brinkmanship to gain an edge in negotiations. That's the way that every single time-sensitive bill has been passed in the past quite a few years. Look at what happened earlier this year when the debt debate- it was nothing but a game of "who will blink first" because the first group to give in has to make concessions and "loses."

Truth to be told, jail nearly ALL of them. The Democrats got us into this mess with their massive welfare state programs, and the Republicans don't stick to their guns and try to get us out of the mess because it is politically unpopular to stop the "free government money" checks to people. We're screwed either way. The only people who really seem to have the stones to get us out of the mess are the Libertarian-leaning folks like the Pauls and they get massacred in any sort of a general primary/election as being "too far out there." We'll see just how far out there the Libertarians are when the U.S. turns into Greece due to the inaction of the two major parties to stop the incessant spending.
 
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Great title for the thread. Fight fire with fire.
 
Reynod

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I am the master of sensationalism without content ... like the gun you drop that just goes off with the bounce ... a loose cannon.

I aim to get lots of reads ... nothing more.

Like badge I am unafraid of harsh reality ... who needs it anyway?

This is not one of those lost puppy dog stories though ... the puppy was found / rescued from the swamp / saved from the clutches of a starving lion.

I don't know if this story will have a nice ending ... but I hope so.

I was going to start a US aid program by sending the Federal Reserve $50.

badge ... can you match my $50 bud?



 
wanamingo

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Yeah then lets just set taxes to 0.

Low taxes = $$$$
Zero Taxes = THE MOST MONEY EVER!!!

Obama should abolish the Debt Ceiling altogether so the repubs cant keep on fighting this subject for the next 2 years while we get nothing done. Then increase taxes. We need revenue coming in.

It like your deadbeat roommate insisting on taking fewer showers to lower the water bill instead of finding a job.
 
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I was going to start a US aid program by sending the Federal Reserve $50.

badge ... can you match my $50 bud?
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The Rock only left you $2.60 towards your pledge. With loss of tax deductions and the inflation punk at the controls of the titanic...your $50 is pee in the wind. Pulling all your teeth out with 20LB test staring in the bathroom mirror and pledging $100 with the gain is the right thing to do. You can get an ipad for a kidney considering your generosity and concern. Obamacare has a sell your organ and send the profit plan to finance the entire thing. The same program to finance the now dickless SS and Medicare programs the Fed runs so well to insure our future and health. Obamacare is just what we need. What comes after trillion. The Dong.

Important consumer news from Visa surveys.

Obamam: Strong dong and your teeth will produce hope and change. What's left of it.









 
MU_Engineer

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Probably the best analogy in computing to the debt problem is Intel raising their TDP ceiling on the i915/925 platforms to 1000 watts so they can clock Prescotts higher in an effort to raise performance. The real problem is that the fundamental architecture sucks, not that the CPUs were "constrained" by the self-imposed TDP limit. Congress could raise the debt ceiling to 1x10^1000 dollars and this would "fix" the problem on paper forever, but the real issue is not solved. The real issue is that the government is spending way too much in relation to how much money the country makes. The government will eventually get to the point where nobody else will lend them money and the government will screech to a halt due to a lack of money, despite being nowhere near the "debt ceiling."
 
king smp

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The US economy is meant to fail
I think it is intended
Do realize that the Federal Reserve is not actually part of US government
instead controlled by world banks

there is already the Euro and the Asian equilavent (cant remember name)

now there is the Amero
the North/South american currency

if the US dollar is viable and strong
then there is no way to bring in the Amero to replace it

so the dollar has to fall

when we are bringing suitcases of paper money to the store to buy groceries
then the progressive government (or should I say One World goverment)
will hold up the Amero as our saviour fo the economy

One World government cannot happen if the US is strong
so it has been weakened
 
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"When the government is big enough to take care of all your needs
then the government is big enough to take away all of your rights"
paraphrase Thomas Jefferson

"A socialist healthcare run by the government is the greatest way
to take away all of your rights"
Ronald Reagan paraphrased from radio speech
 
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Got any ideas how to make medical/healthcare cheaper then?
 
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