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About a decade ago I saw a Discovery Channel special on the possibilites for future energy resources. It was a fascinating, future-science style special with one acclaimed scientist suggesting that in theory there was the possibility that there would be enough energy to serve the world's needs found in a coffee cup.

That was too full-bore for me, but there was one guy who really caught my eye and his name was Stanley Meyer: an Ohio dirt farmer who claimed he had developed a hydrogen car that ran efficiently without consuming more energy than it produced.

Has anybody since heard of this gentleman, particularly our US friends? I honestly felt the guy was not a crackpot, but rather, a man forging ahead utilisting non-conventional scientific methods.

With fuel a $1 a litre here, I felt it poignant to have another look at alternative resources, if any, in the world.

Does anybody have anything on this?

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i havent heard anything but i will search and see what i can find out about him.

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Reply to mrface

Yeah, Phuks, mate I apologise, its either Stanley Meyer or Myer, but I believe it to be spelt Meyer.

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Reply to BomberBill

Stanley Meyer, owner of numerous <A HREF="http://www.hydropowercar.com/content.php?article.18" target="_new">patents</A> was known by many in the renewable energy field as an outright fraud. His claims for the "water fuel cell" bordered on perpetual motion. He died March 1998.

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He never died. He was recycled into plankton food, then used to fuel the food chain.

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Funny...and TRUE

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Reply to Ned_Flanders

Here is an <A HREF="http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/meyerhy.htm" target="_new">interesting page</A> that says he demonstrated his WFC (Water Fuel Cell) a few times. But would not allow any real tests to confirm its efficiency. Apparently he thought that he would lose his claims to the patents, if he did not refine his system(s) some more.

It's a long page, and I haven't read it all yet. But check out the last paragraph:

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He was apparently eating dinner at a Grove City OH restaurant, when it is reported that he jumped up from the table, yelled that he'd been poisoned", and rushed out into the parking lot, where he collapsed and died. It has been reported by Meyer's associates that Meyer had just secured funding for a $50 million research center near Grove City, but there is no way to confirm or reject this at the moment.

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So you don't have access to <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&q=Stanley+Meyer&meta=" target="_new">Google</A> in Australia? [/bitchy]

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I don't think they killed him because if you will do a search on hydrogen fuel cells you will find that there is currently devices that produce hydrogen from water using only solar power.

Everyone knows about current developments in hydrogen powered cars. This recent development of producing hydrogen solves the fuel station problem for using this new fuel in place of petroleum. My question is, why are they so slow to manufacture these cars? ...Could it be that good Ole George W. Bush is supporting the petroleum companies and slowing the hydrogen research???

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Reply to russell

I'd love to see the extremist hippies that keep blasting us for having SUVs, what they'd say when we develop high horsepower SUVs that don't spend one drop of gasoline, and merely spit out good ol' air for them to breath up their weed-infested noses!

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Actually the waste from a hydrogen car is water and it's so pure you can drink it.

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Reply to russell

Even more ironic. Drive and you will be feeding nature! Haha, oh man, what'll they think of next...

And what'll the hippies try to attack next!

<pre>Lousy bunch of tree-hugging hypocrites who burn their own precious green to get a buzz...</pre>
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who burn their own precious green to get a buzz...

That's TOO funny

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Reply to russell

Thanks to all who chipped in on this, I appreciate it a great deal.

Mac's right though, I should have googled more but I wanted to know if the US guys had any more info on him than what I could grab from the net.

 "America is full of vociferous minorities and silent majorities". Richard Nixon on the Progressive Party's failed presidential candidate, Henry Wallace.

Reply to BomberBill

I'm not a big one for conspiracy theories but I am surprised to hear that the man is dead. I am also surprised a great deal to hear that this is the way he died. We must all keep in mind that the world's economy revolves around resources and that pure hydrogen cars will eat a huge chunk out of oil profits.

I'll keep investigating and thanks for this.

 "America is full of vociferous minorities and silent majorities". Richard Nixon on the Progressive Party's failed presidential candidate, Henry Wallace.

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Russ, it amazes me that we're not putting more money towards these kinds of inventions. We splurge on other 'more pressing' social issues but surely energy sources have to rate highly.

I know major automobile manufacturers are moving inexorably towards alternative sources of fuel.

Then again, you make energy free for propulsion vehicles and what would happen? My nation's cities are absolutely gridlocked now, add drivers to the mix who could not previously afford vehicles and we've got further issues.

That aside though, I do hope this kind of technology becomes a reality; if for no other reason, but to alleviate environmental pressures caused by vehicles etc.

 "America is full of vociferous minorities and silent majorities". Richard Nixon on the Progressive Party's failed presidential candidate, Henry Wallace.

Reply to BomberBill

Just imagine if the world could harness the power of my infected gonads.

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Reply to WingDing

What's keeping ksoth from joining this particular topic?

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Because he has the intelligence of a dogfart.

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Reply to WingDing

Hydrogen cars, it's truly the best if not one of the best answer IMO.

Sure the economy would take a hit from the oil business, but then again, we're taking also a hit with the environment taxes and the investments to save the air that we're polluting from gas itself. So the whole cycle would stop.

If anything, think of the savings WE'D have from not paying so much for gas and complaining about its cost. Not to mention significantly better air for large cities, and the ability to ride in big luxurious SUVs without a single worry about the environment, and enjoying their ability to go through climbs like a walk in the park. Heck, even car companies would feel better, considering these days they have to resort to making offers like offering a year of free gas and stuff like that!

I find it just ridiculous they are taking so long to make them cars. I honestly think they're delaying it and in reality they could master it within the next year if they wanted. Something's just not right. It's the same thing with electric cars. Bloody hell has anyone yet seen a recharge station around them? Does everyone live in a house to possibly use an exterior outlet to charge their cars?
They never made it easier so far, and we see very little electric cars created yet. And let's not forget their horrible performance either. I know I'd get lethargic if it took me over 10 seconds to reach 100KM/h... :eek:

The consumer market, IMO, will only open itself up to those new technologies if they can match what we have now. Many people love a car that can offer a decent performance for the price, but they're also very conscious about fuel consumption too. The trade-off is rarely obvious. We live in a materialistic society, and as much as some will downplay that lifestyle, they're as guilty as everyone else and should accept that we sometimes like to pamper ourselves after working hard. But when you're leftist, that last part doesn't hit you quite easily.

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Reply to eden

That's not very nice. But, I'll try to lace my posts with more references to infected rectums.

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Reply to ksoth

Only place I've seen a recharge station is in a Mall in Phoenix AZ

If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on

Reply to dunklegend

I do not think hydrogen cars should be the "next phase" of transportation. They simply require too large of a shift from current gasoline/diesel engines. The cars themselves, not to mention fuel development and delivery infrastructures, would have to be built up from scratch.

The next generation of cars and fuels should be biodiesel. Biodiesel will run in any diesel car today without modification and camn utilize the same fuel delivery infrastructure we currently have. Cost is also an issue. You can buy biodiesel today, delivered to your house, for $3.50 a gallon. Not bad, considering the low quantities it is being produced. It burns clean and will give us true energy independance, and could put an end to wasteful government subsidies on farming.

I think if we ever develop a way to quickly, cheaply,a nd cleanly extract hydrogen from some source, then we should try to migrate to hydrogen fuel cells, because in terms of being truly clean, fuel cells are the way to go.

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I think if we ever develop a way to quickly, cheaply,a nd cleanly extract hydrogen from some source, then we should try to migrate to hydrogen fuel cells, because in terms of being truly clean, fuel cells are the way to go.

Is <A HREF="http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/07/09/6900033_Solar_Hydrogen/" target="_new"> Water </A>cheep enough?

Already been done and they can obtain hydrogen from methane also. Currently methane from landfills is burned off.

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Reply to russell

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I never read about that particular method, so it's good to see such strides are being made, rather than still get the hydrogen from gasoline like the oil companies want.

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Reply to ksoth

All you have to do is convince all of the worlds oil executives to stop exerting political pressure for their companies' benifit, and instead let their companies slowly die, while they watch their fortunes evaporate.

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That sounds reasonable.

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Reply to eden

That would be much appeciated. Thank you.

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Reply to WingDing

Oohhh "BioDiesel", doesn't that get you all excited, Wingy? Especially if it oozes out of an infected rectum, yummie :tongue:

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'Biohazard' would be a more accurate description of the noxious tar that seeps from my offensive anus.

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