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Hello, sorry for the double post so soon, but I ventured into the
mines, still undecided on the god thing, and attracted about 4 priests.
They were in a cluster when I left, so no doubt they've swarmed the
staircase when I go back down.
I meant to post my chardump earlier, but I forgot, so hear it is:

Dungeon Crawl version 4.0.0 beta 26 character file.

Glik the Black Belt (Minotaur)
(Level 9 Monk)

Play time: 01:36:05 Number of turns: 16101

Experience : 9/3697
Strength 14 Dexterity 16 Intelligence 10
Hit Points : 78 Magic Points : 4
AC : 4 Evasion : 13 Shield : 0
GP : 555

You are on level 6.
You are not hungry.

Inventory:
Hand weapons
n - an uncursed dwarven hand axe
o - an uncursed bow
w - a +0 whip of electrocution
A - the +0,+6 mace "Eb Xixtib" (weapon)
It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
It protects you from fire.

Missiles
e - 12 poisoned orcish needles
i - 40 elven arrows
k - 11 poisoned arrows
s - 16 poisoned needles
u - 84 arrows
z - 36 poisoned needles
F - 19 darts
H - 26 +0 orcish darts of flame
Armour
h - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
r - a +2 robe (worn)
Comestibles
a - 3 meat rations
b - 5 bread rations
Scrolls
g - a scroll of identify
l - 3 scrolls of teleportation
m - a scroll of paper
t - 3 scrolls of detect curse
v - a scroll of remove curse
Jewellery
d - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
B - a +0,+6 ring of slaying (right hand)
Potions
q - a potion of restore abilities
y - a potion of might
I - a potion of speed
Books
x - a book of Changes
C - a book of Minor Magic
Magical staves
J - a staff of death
Carrion
c - a giant bat skeleton


You have 3 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 6 Fighting
+ Level 5 Maces & Flails
+ Level 5 Darts
+ Level 2 Throwing
+ Level 7 Dodging
+ Level 4 Stealth
+ Level 1 Stabbing
+ Level 8 Unarmed Combat


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Mutations & Other Weirdness
Your muscles are strong (Str +1).

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On 20 Jun 2005 00:01:36 -0700, "NIm" <bladedpenguin@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hello, sorry for the double post so soon, but I ventured into the
>mines, still undecided on the god thing, and attracted about 4 priests.
>They were in a cluster when I left, so no doubt they've swarmed the
>staircase when I go back down.

You might want to avoid those stairs for awhile.

> Dungeon Crawl version 4.0.0 beta 26 character file.
>
>Glik the Black Belt (Minotaur)
>(Level 9 Monk)

>Experience : 9/3697
>Strength 14 Dexterity 16 Intelligence 10
>Hit Points : 78 Magic Points : 4
>AC : 4 Evasion : 13 Shield : 0
>GP : 555
>
>You are on level 6.
>You are not hungry.
>
> Inventory:
>Hand weapons
> n - an uncursed dwarven hand axe
> o - an uncursed bow
> w - a +0 whip of electrocution
> A - the +0,+6 mace "Eb Xixtib" (weapon)
> It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
> It protects you from fire.

This is a nice weapon. Not the best possible, but very nice for an
early find.

>Missiles
> e - 12 poisoned orcish needles
> i - 40 elven arrows
> k - 11 poisoned arrows
> s - 16 poisoned needles
> u - 84 arrows
> z - 36 poisoned needles
> F - 19 darts
> H - 26 +0 orcish darts of flame

This is way more than you need to be carrying around. Decide what
you're actually going to use and stash the rest in the Temple. I'd
keep the darts of flame and some arrows if you plan to learn bows (not
at all a bad move for a minotaur).

>Armour
> h - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
> r - a +2 robe (worn)

If you are going to make Maces your main form of attack, instead of
sticking with Unarmed, you might want to move to heavy armor.

>Comestibles
> a - 3 meat rations
> b - 5 bread rations

Stash the bread in the Temple.

>Scrolls
> g - a scroll of identify
> l - 3 scrolls of teleportation
> m - a scroll of paper
> t - 3 scrolls of detect curse
> v - a scroll of remove curse

Stash everything except teleport and paper. Throw away the paper.

>Jewellery
> d - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
> B - a +0,+6 ring of slaying (right hand)

These are good.

>Potions
> q - a potion of restore abilities
> y - a potion of might
> I - a potion of speed

Stash the restore abilities.

>Books
> x - a book of Changes
> C - a book of Minor Magic
>Magical staves
> J - a staff of death

This is practically garbage. You're a Minotaur. You are good at pretty
much everything except two things -- being sneaky and having anything
to do with magic. In any case, there's no point carrying around a
staff of death with no necromancy spells or hauling spell books about.
Stash in the Temple. If you go with a god who likes presents, you can
sacrifice them.


>Carrion
> c - a giant bat skeleton

This is *really* garbage. Only necromancers have any reason to carry
around skeletons.

> You have 3 experience left.
>
> Skills:
> + Level 6 Fighting
> + Level 5 Maces & Flails
> + Level 5 Darts
> + Level 2 Throwing

I'd turn off darts now. Keep Throwing on, however, as it is important
for all missile weapons.

> + Level 7 Dodging
> + Level 4 Stealth
> + Level 1 Stabbing
> + Level 8 Unarmed Combat

> Mutations & Other Weirdness
>Your muscles are strong (Str +1).

Whee!

--
R. Dan Henry
danhenry@inreach.com

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Mechanoid wrote:
>>Stash everything except teleport and paper. Throw away the paper.
>
> Keep the paper, and when you find them, keep the ?s of Uselessness.
> When you get hit by fire there's a decent chance THEY will burn up and
> *not* the teleports/blinks.

Unfortunately, this doesn't work -- the check is made per item.

Erik

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Mechanoid wrote:
> Go for the fighter area of things, and get better armor. Even though
> they advance equally in dodging and armor, taking less damage is more
> important later on.

Have you ever played an evasion character in the endgame?

You take less damage just fine... because you never get hit in the first
place. (I mean, of course you *do*, but it's rare enough that it
balances out with Armour characters just fine.)

All in all, sticking with one type is more efficient.

> Keep the whip, it's nice to have if you go into a watery area.

Interesting! Why's that?

> Dump the darts and needles. They do jack-all for damage and many of the
> deeper monsters are poison-resistant, if not immune.

Depends on what you fire them from... at least the darts. ;-)

> Get a better bow, preferably a randart.

Randart bows are fairly uncommon. (I used to believe differently too,
but I've seen a lot of games since then.)

But anyway with bows like with most things, a good ego is better than a
randart, as most of the time you can get the ego bow up higher than the
fixed pluses on the randart bow. The ideal is a bow of speed, but my
subjective impression is that they're about on par with katanas for
rarity... that leaves Protection, since the last thing you want for a
mainline bow is one that's guaranteed to destroy your precious arrows
(Of Flame/Of Frost).

> Turn off stealth. Monsters will almost always see you at deeper levels,
> especially when you're wearing plate armor.

Right, that's why you don't wear it. :-)

Erik

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:04:12 +0200, Erik Piper <erikNOSPAM@sky.cz>
wrote:

>Mechanoid wrote:
>> Go for the fighter area of things, and get better armor. Even though
>> they advance equally in dodging and armor, taking less damage is more
>> important later on.

>> Turn off stealth. Monsters will almost always see you at deeper levels,
>> especially when you're wearing plate armor.
>
>Right, that's why you don't wear it. :-)

Not a good argument for a Minotaur. They're just not meant to be
stealthy. They're like bulls in a china shop, they are.

--
R. Dan Henry
danhenry@inreach.com

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R. Dan Henry wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:53:44 +0200, Erik Piper <erikNOSPAM@sky.cz>
> wrote:

> [...] As a wise man once said, "A single bad skill does
> not make a bad character." Or something like that, anyway.

ITYM "As a wise guy..." ;-)

Erik

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Erik Piper writes:
> Mechanoid wrote:
> >>Stash everything except teleport and paper. Throw away the paper.
> >
> > Keep the paper, and when you find them, keep the ?s of Uselessness.
> > When you get hit by fire there's a decent chance THEY will burn up and
> > *not* the teleports/blinks.
>
> Unfortunately, this doesn't work -- the check is made per item.

This may not work, but carrying worthless potions to absorb mummy
curses seems to work. I always seem to have exactly one stack of
potions decay when I get that curse. It's still a bigger risk than I
like to take willingly, though.