i gotta say it...AMD is better than intel

I must say that AMD's chips are some of the most cost-efficient good performers out there. Match it against a PIII, and there's clearly no contest. I do wish they had thermal protection though...

Rob
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True Mr Man you tell them

I installed 8 myself now
all Socket A's
Not one probelsm

! not one!
I have been using AMD for years
not 1 not ONE problem

You would have to have chronic arthritis or Multiple Scerosis to install the heatsink wrong!

It's so true

They don't need thermal protection

They need Fool Protection
Don't sell a AMD to this person who acts or is below the age of 10

haha



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I did NOT say they NEED thermal protection, got that?
But as an ACCESSORY, it is desirable to have it built in. Sure, we can all be masters at installing AMD devices into systems and have them all running fine, but there is always the chance for HUMAN ERROR.

Rob
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dude, its the booze that's talking!!! your prob drinking cheap a$$ schlitz.

"Amd cpu...Gone in 2 secs flat, it truly is a fast chip!"

itsd actually onteiths. youw ont snoknow wht tat ber w cause its new zealnd beer. and its FU(KING NICE ut whether im dunk r not amd is still better tn intel

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what a dick your are

faggot i kjnow when im drunk cockfasce

i hate youi so mcuh dicksuck,,,,trying toi sY THAT AMD CPUS SUCK WHEN i knowq that they rule, [-peep-] you cock easting penois raper, gpo fucsk youyr mothere

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Nice one Wusy
i just build my sister and brother in law a Tbird 800

they wanted a Celeron

But i changed there minds. =-)

Cheap too fully loaded system with monitor i built froms cratch for $900 total~

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On the whole thermal protection issue, though I haven't seen it in one of these posts, has anyone <i> actually </i> removed a HSF from a PIII while it's running to check this out? Obviously, I don't expect many people to say they have tried as it would be an expensive experiment, but does anyone know of a website that has tried this? ( I am doubtful that the issue on the PIII side is as cut-and-dry as that, though I'm open to be corrected)

On the 'crushing the core' issue, this is true of both PIIIs and Athlons. The PIIIs just have a little bit of what looks like a rubbery compound squirted on top after the chip is made, which may help protect them a little, though the actual chip is still proud of the surround. I believe the main problem however is with the HSF manufacturers. Firstly they were releasing Socket370 HSFs and saying they were fit to use on Athlons instead of making new designs (I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had to cut off the little pads on the bottom of a HSF to make it fit), and secondly, the spring force on many of the clips is downright stupid - I'm not a small fellow, and when I have trouble closing a clip onto a socket using needle-nose pliers, there's something wrong. Surely the clips don't need to be <i> that </i> tight in order to give a good contact with the CPU, especially seeing as they're the only point of contact?

Dan

'What we do in life, echoes in Eternity' (being topical today)