[Crawl] YAVP - Crux the HECr

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Zot5 was a bit of a challenge, but no where near as scary as the tomb
or hells. Decided to go out with that robe of the archmagi that cost me
so much experience earlier in the game. 2/4 hells and the tomb/slime
pits done for my second win is definitely an improvement. But gave up
on the rest as a) I was getting a bit bored with it, and b) running
dangerously low on food.

Very average AC and Ev for the end game I thought. But nothing better
seemed to turn up. Not sure what to try next to be honest. Anyway
cheers for the advice.


Richard

Dungeon Crawl version 4.0.0 beta 26 character file.


Crux the Annihilator

Race : High Elf Res.Fire : + + + See Invis. : +
Class : Crusader Res.Cold : + . . Warding : .
Worship : Elyvilon Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : .
Level : 27 Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : .
Exp : 1404094 Res.Elec. : + Gourmand : .

Sust.Abil.: . Rnd.Telep. : .
Spls.Left : 1 Res.Mut. : + Ctrl.Telep.: .
Gold : 3097 Res.Slow : . Levitation : .
Clarity : . Ctrl.Flight: .
HP : 172
MP : 46
Str : 14 Weapon : staff of conjuration
Int : 26 Armour : +3 robe (Archmagi)
Dex : 22 Shield :
AC : 18 Helmet : +1 helmet (see invis)
Evasion : 18 Cloak : +2 elf cloak
Shield : 0 Gloves : +5 pair of gloves "Ewod"
Boots : +2 pair of boots
Play time : 2, 21:20:51 Amulet : amulet "Dogusyx"
Turns : 175821 Ring : ring of the Mage
Ring : ring "Ifihinolisi"


You escaped.
You worship Elyvilon.
Elyvilon is exalted by your worship.
You are full.

Inventory:
Hand weapons
B - a +7,+5 elven long sword of speed (1807 gold)
Armour
h - a +2 elven cloak (worn) (138 gold)
i - the +5 pair of gloves "Ewod" (worn) (746 gold)
It greatly protects you from fire.

k - a +3 robe of the Archmagi (worn) (383 gold)
A - a +1 helmet of see invisible (worn) (174 gold)
K - a +2 pair of boots (worn) (144 gold)
Magical devices
g - a wand of healing (2) (39 gold)
l - a wand of disintegration (0) (3 gold)
Comestibles
e - 4 honeycombs (100 gold)
t - an apple (8 gold)
Scrolls
m - 2 scrolls of teleportation (60 gold)
s - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon II (110 gold)
I - a scroll of noise (2 gold)
Jewellery
c - an amulet of the gourmand (245 gold)
d - the amulet "Dogusyx" (around neck) (805 gold)
This amulet protects its wearer from mutations, although not
infallibly so.
It protects you from fire.
It insulates you from electricity.
It makes you much more stealthy.
It lets you turn invisible.
It lets you sense your surroundings.

v - the ring "Ifihinolisi" (left hand) (707 gold)
This ring provides protection from heat and fire.
It affects your strength (+1).
It protects you from cold.
It insulates you from electricity.
It lets you sense your surroundings.

P - the cursed amulet "Usklacoacevac" (560 gold)
This amulet protects its wearer from some forms of mental confusion.

It affects your intelligence (+1).
It insulates you from electricity.
It protects you from magic.
It lets you teleport.
It has a curse placed upon it.
T - the ring of the Mage (right hand) (511 gold)
This ring increases the ability of its wearer to use magical spells.

It affects your intelligence (+3).
It protects you from magic.

Potions
f - 6 potions of healing (120 gold)
j - a potion of cure mutation (150 gold)
p - 4 potions of heal wounds (120 gold)
y - 8 potions of might (200 gold)
Books
F - a manual of Evocations (1150 gold)
G - a book of Enchantments (500 gold)
Magical staves
a - a staff of conjuration (weapon) (250 gold)
b - a rod of destruction (250 gold)
E - a staff of wizardry (250 gold)
Orbs of Power
D - the Orb of Zot (250000 gold)
Miscellaneous
o - a silver rune of Zot (10000 gold)
q - an icy rune of Zot (10000 gold)
r - a slimy rune of Zot (10000 gold)
u - a golden rune of Zot (10000 gold)
w - a serpentine rune of Zot (10000 gold)
x - a decaying rune of Zot (10000 gold)
z - an iron rune of Zot (10000 gold)
C - the horn of Geryon (5000 gold)
H - a box of beasts (500 gold)


You have 4 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 12 Fighting
- Level 4 Short Blades
+ Level 22 Long Blades
- Level 1 Darts
- Level 1 Armour
+ Level 16 Dodging
+ Level 12 Stealth
- Level 5 Stabbing
+ Level 17 Spellcasting
* Level 27 Conjurations
+ Level 11 Enchantments
+ Level 3 Divinations
+ Level 18 Fire Magic
+ Level 7 Earth Magic
+ Level 10 Invocations
+ Level 7 Evocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Success
Level
a - Fire Storm Fire/Conjuration Perfect 9
b - Identify Divination Fair 6
c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear Earth/Conjuration Perfect 8
d - Detect Secret Doors Divination Excellent 1
e - Remove Curse Enchantment Perfect 5
f - Silence Air/Enchantment Excellent 3
g - Bolt of Fire Fire/Conjuration Perfect 5
h - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast Conjuration Perfect 4
i - Haste Enchantment Excellent 6
j - Deflect Missiles Air/Enchantment Great 6
l - Controlled Blink Translocation Very Good 4
m - Levitation Air/Enchantment Perfect 2


Last Messages

You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading upwards here.
Are you sure you want to leave the Dungeon?
You have escaped!

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Vanquished Creatures
Antaeus (Coc:7)
4 orbs of fire
An ancient lich (Zot:5)
A royal jelly (Slime:6)
Boris (twice) (Blade Vault:7)
17 greater mummies
Geryon (Hell)
Dispater (Dis:7)
2 Killer Klowns
A Killer Klown (shapeshifter) (Vault:5)
Margery (D:25)
Xtahua (Blade)
2 electric golems
7 golden dragons
A titan (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
7 acid blobs
An acid blob (shapeshifter) (Vault:8)
A golden dragon (shapeshifter) (D:19)
A lich (Tomb:1)
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Dafty wrote:
> Zot5 was a bit of a challenge, but no where near as scary as the tomb
> or hells. Decided to go out with that robe of the archmagi that cost me
> so much experience earlier in the game. 2/4 hells and the tomb/slime
> pits done for my second win is definitely an improvement. But gave up
> on the rest as a) I was getting a bit bored with it, and b) running
> dangerously low on food.
>
> Very average AC and Ev for the end game I thought. But nothing better
> seemed to turn up. Not sure what to try next to be honest. Anyway
> cheers for the advice.

Weird, since my last character is also a HECr, and today I´ve done Dis
and Gehenna, slime, vaults (later going for tomb rune, but it gives me
the creeps) and in the case I win it´ll be also my second win. The
hells and the tomb get a really chunk out of your food. I´m lvl 24
because there were so many shadow dragons that they ate almos all my
Xp. The main difference is that I focused my char in fighting, not in
conjurations. I am alctually using a +8/+9 katana of slicing (found it
+8/+8 in the vaultsand I vorpalized it).

 

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Yeah they're quite fun, I recommend them. I really should have beefed
my fighting more. Never found anything better than my elven long sword
of speed (which to be fair is pretty good), and had a number of
vorpalise weapon scrolls that I would have used had I found a +8,+8
katana! Bad luck with the shadow dragons. I hate draining so much
that as soon as I saw them they took the biggest spell I could hurl at
them. And I think I had a very reliable crystal spear before I saw lots
of them, so they didn't stay breathing for long. (didn't see many in
vault 8 as I recall).

As my last winner was pure fighter (with a little bit of evocations
thrown in) the spell casting kinda appealed. To be honest I finished
the game pretty much as a pure spell caster with crystal spear and fire
storm. Very heavy on the food usage though which is why I gave up
trying 2 of the hells and Pan.

So far gotta be happy with my crawling as my 2 winners were back to
back if you exclude pre temple chars. I'm now playing some random
combinations to get an experience for starting off with various
character types. Ghould fighters are really really hard to start off!
Gave up on them really soon. Thinking about trying a staves specialist
but not quite decided on the best viable class. I'm looking for
something that has the potential to be able to survive all the hells
and pan. Which from my last game means being able to take out stuff
without always burning food rations with spells.

Mind you my last game I lost 2 dungeon branches worth of experience
from not realising what a robe of the archmagi does...


Rich

 

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Really bad luck with the robe. Although it is kind of cool, I hate it.

My first won game was a... Kobold Thief!!!!. I couldn´t believe
myself it got so good.
And I get spellcasting on every mid-level character, even if it is a
minotaur. I just love the versatility.
I´ve tried ghoul fighters and got kind of angry with them, until I got
one of them past lvl 7. He became very good quickly, and died in the
last level of the slime pits at level 27. He worshipped Xom (don´t
ask, I don´t remember why).
The free resistances are really useful (immune to poison and neg.
energy and resistance to cold), and he gets really cool HP and aren´t
that bad with maces and unarmed. Rotting is not a problem from the mid
to late game.
At first I ditch the sword, and go unarmed until I find a decent mace.
The only bad thing is that they don´t get any mutations
Keep trying!!! They are worth it. Oh!, and I´ve thought him
necromantic magic (it is actually pretty good at it).

 

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Now that I remember that was a demonspawn chaos knight (the one with
Xom). The ghoul got around lvl 23, but it was a cool char though

 

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I always wanted to use a staff specialist, but I found that there is no
easy start for them. The best ones with staffs are minotaurs and kenkus
(go with kenkus if you look for versatility or minotaur if you go for
striking power). But you´ll have to find the staff yourself. So, no
easy start.

 

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Dafty wrote:
>

> I'm now playing some random
> combinations to get an experience for starting off with various
> character types. Ghould fighters are really really hard to start off!
> Gave up on them really soon. Thinking about trying a staves specialist
> but not quite decided on the best viable class. I'm looking for
> something that has the potential to be able to survive all the hells
> and pan. Which from my last game means being able to take out stuff
> without always burning food rations with spells.
>

always wanted to use a staff specialist, but I found that there is no
easy start for them. The best ones with staffs are minotaurs and kenkus

(go with kenkus if you look for versatility or minotaur if you go for
striking power). But you´ll have to find the staff yourself. So, no
easy start.

 

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Erik wrote:
> - kenkus
>

Trying one now after losing a OgreMage Summoner who for some strange
reason starts with quarterstaff despite being pretty poor with them!
Didn't get all that far but was enjoying call imp and bashing with the
staff when I realised I'd be better off switching to a polearm or even
an axe. Then died when my imps proved no match for the first early ogre
that found me with no method of poisoning them (my usual manner of
dealing with early ogres).

Death dump ID'd this I'd picked up a dozen turns previously:

s - a +2,+0 dwarven battleaxe of flaming

Which I expect on DL4 would have come in rather handy! Ah well back to
the drawing board.


Rich

 

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Would you like a copy of the 4.1a (Windows) executable to see what the
new buffed staves look like? E-mailable on request. Kinda frustrating
to
play without Ctrl-O, but exciting.

Sure, I think you have my email address. Should get here zipped.
Probably breaks savefile compatibility I guess?


Richard

 

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Dafty wrote:

[YAVP]

Congratulations!

> To be honest I finished
> the game pretty much as a pure spell caster with crystal spear and fire
> storm. Very heavy on the food usage though which is why I gave up
> trying 2 of the hells and Pan.

A bit higher INT and spellcasting might have helped... it's definitely
possible for a pure caster to reach the end of the extended endgame with
enough food, though it's still easier IMO for a fighter, even a
berserker. So I don't agree with Brent's occasionally expressed opinion
that casters have an easier food situation, although fortunately the
changes he made based on that assessment look so minor that I doubt
they'll affect anything but overblown victory dances... which is a
*good* thing, really.

> Gave up on them really soon. Thinking about trying a staves specialist
> but not quite decided on the best viable class.

Since you're an ASCII man (TileCrawl already makes staves a bit easier
if you're willing to train unarmed), note that you'll find staves
specialists a lot easier in the new version -- they've been buffed
considerably, and the staff class even gets its own ueberweapon! I'll
leave the exact nature a secret; can't spoil EVERYTHING, you know.

> I'm looking for
> something that has the potential to be able to survive all the hells
> and pan. Which from my last game means being able to take out stuff
> without always burning food rations with spells.

That's more a question of race than class, since over time you can
choose your own focus. Some thoughts:

- kenkus
- minotaurs
- part-melee deep elves (not necessarily a challenge game)
- draconians

Cheers,

e.

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And so
ears teach ears to hear
-- Uz jsme doma, "Ears"

 

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Dafty wrote:
> Erik wrote:
>
>>- kenkus
>>
>
>
> Trying one now after losing a OgreMage Summoner who for some strange
> reason starts with quarterstaff despite being pretty poor with them!
> Didn't get all that far but was enjoying call imp and bashing with the
> staff when I realised I'd be better off switching to a polearm or even
> an axe. Then died when my imps proved no match for the first early ogre
> that found me with no method of poisoning them (my usual manner of
> dealing with early ogres).
>
> Death dump ID'd this I'd picked up a dozen turns previously:
>
> s - a +2,+0 dwarven battleaxe of flaming
>
> Which I expect on DL4 would have come in rather handy! Ah well back to
> the drawing board.
>
>
> Rich

Would you like a copy of the 4.1a (Windows) executable to see what the
new buffed staves look like? E-mailable on request. Kinda frustrating to
play without Ctrl-O, but exciting.

e.

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And so
ears teach ears to hear
-- Uz jsme doma, "Ears"