-Crawl- Sometimes I really really hate this game...

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I've been trying to start a staves specialist. My latest Kenku
Gladiator was doing quite well and had just found the temple on level 7
and after converting to Ely was looking forward to hopefully seeing the
back of the start of the game. Level nearly cleared, just one fleeing
ice beast to go find and finish off so I thinks.

Find Ice Beast
Sigmund turns up
Run away around a corner
Bash Sigmund a bit
Ogre turns up!
Time to run for the stairs as there are no corridors on this level
Killer Bees suddenly in between me and the stairs!
Dead

GRRRR!!!! So unfair. Nothing I could have done. At least it's more
balanced than the new alpha


Dungeon Crawl version 4.0.0 beta 26 character file.


Kenco the Cruncher

Race : Kenku Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : .
Class : Gladiator Res.Cold : . . . Warding : .
Worship : Elyvilon Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : .
Level : 8 Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : .
Exp : 1564 Res.Elec. : . Gourmand : .
Next Level : 2573
Exp Needed : 1009 Sust.Abil.: . Rnd.Telep. : .
Spls.Left : 7 Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: .
Gold : 34 Res.Slow : . Levitation : .
Clarity : . Ctrl.Flight: .
HP : 0/50
MP : 8
Str : 16 Weapon : +1 quarterstaff
Int : 9 Armour : +1 splint mail
Dex : 21 Shield :
AC : 13 Helmet :
Evasion : 6 Cloak : +2 cloak
Shield : 0 Gloves :
Boots :
Play time : 02:21:58 Amulet :
Turns : 8082 Ring : ring of poison resistance
Ring : +5 ring of dexterity


You are on level 6.
You worship Elyvilon.
Elyvilon is noncommittal.
You are hungry.

Inventory:
Hand weapons
a - a +1,+1 quarterstaff (weapon)

// My impression is I *miss* more with this than I did with my starting
Trident. Surely that's wrong? Think I'm going to try a polearms
specialist in the same class next as the first few levels were nice and
easy.

e - a +2,+1 battleaxe

// about to be sac'd. death ID'd

h - a +0 dagger
Missiles
c - 36 poisoned +0 needles
Armour
i - a +2 cloak (worn)
q - a +0 ring mail
s - a +1 splint mail (worn)
A - a +1 robe
B - a +1 leather armour of magic resistance
Magical devices
o - a wand of flame (0)
z - a wand of enslavement (8)
C - a wand of disintegration (3)

// Not much use when I'm surrounded by an invisible sigmund and 2
killer bees. Managed to off the Ogre though.

Comestibles
d - 4 bread rations
Scrolls
f - 3 scrolls of teleportation

// OK should have used one of these earlier but was feeling
overconfident. ah heck. A stupid death after all

j - 2 scrolls of identify
l - a scroll of detect curse
u - 3 scrolls of remove curse
w - a scroll of curse armour
E - a scroll of fear
Jewellery
b - a +5 ring of dexterity (left hand)
m - a cursed ring of teleportation
n - a ring of invisibility
p - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
v - a ring of protection from magic
y - a cursed -3 ring of protection
Potions
k - a potion of healing
x - 2 potions of restore abilities
D - a potion of invisibility


You have 0 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 5 Fighting
- Level 4 Polearms
+ Level 8 Staves
+ Level 3 Armour
- Level 1 Shields
+ Level 4 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 1 Evocations


You have 7 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.


Last Messages

* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The killer bee hits you but doesn't do any damage.
The killer bee hits you!
You die...

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Vanquished Creatures
A phantom (D:7)
2 ogres
2 giant frogs
A necrophage (D:6)
Blork the orc (D:6)
An imp (D:7)
A hound (D:5)
2 orc priests (D:5)
An orc wizard (D:4)
2 giant iguanas
2 scorpions (D:7)
3 giant ants
Ijyb (D:2)
2 worms
4 gnolls
8 snakes
A giant mite (D:3)
2 oozes
23 giant bats
3 giant geckos
17 hobgoblins
5 jackals
11 orcs
5 small snakes
8 giant cockroaches
8 giant newts
14 goblins
14 kobolds
An orc zombie (D:7)
4 quokkas
12 rats

162 creatures vanquished.

 

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So I start a new game determined to stick with the pole arms and there
are 2 quarterstaves on DL1 RNG how thou mockest me!


Rich

 

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Dafty wrote:

> z - a wand of enslavement (8)

Moving this up to the top since it's the main reason I wanted to write.
I think this wand, if successful (and hey, you did use a wand of
disintegration IIUC) could have saved you -- a successful enslavement
can kill two birds with one stone: one enemy is out of commission from
enslavement, and a second from dealing with the enslaved monster. Sure
you'd probably have pissed off Elyvilon, but that doesn't matter if
you're dead.

> Str : 16 Weapon : +1 quarterstaff
> Int : 9 Armour : +1 splint mail

Stream-of-consciousness here... I've always wondered if the armor
penalties to unarmed apply to auxiliary unarmed as well -- in that
case, kenku, and especially kenku with non-two-handed weapons (which
quarterstaves will be in 4.1) would do better to go with lighter armour
unless they plan to seriously work on building Armour skill. Of course
4.1 also has unarmed totally revamped in general, and I'm not at all
oriented in the changes yet. But anybody know offhand how this (armour
and auxiliary unarmed) works in b26?

> Turns : 8082 Ring : ring of poison resistance

So close, so close, so close to being able to handle those bees!!

> a - a +1,+1 quarterstaff (weapon)
>
> // My impression is I *miss* more with this than I did with my starting
> Trident. Surely that's wrong?

At the same skill level, or before the staves skill caught up? Staves
are more accurate, but don't get the bonuses for 2-handed use of a
hand-and-a-half weapon, which IIRC includes a slight accuracy boost --
don't trust my offhand recollection on this, though.

> Think I'm going to try a polearms
> specialist in the same class next as the first few levels were nice and
> easy.

Been my experience with spearmen too, even deep elf spearmen (run with
the intention of becoming stavesmen). Not quite sure why, though again,
there are various perks for hand-and-a-half, high damage seems to be
quite helpful early on, and (though this doesn't apply for your case)
racial-weapon bonuses also seem to have a significant impact early on.

> B - a +1 leather armour of magic resistance

Totally OT: resistable magic is much less easily resistable in 4.1a...
you'll find yourself actually thinking seriously about wearing items of
magic resistance.

> C - a wand of disintegration (3)
>
> // Not much use when I'm surrounded by an invisible sigmund

Disintegration doesn't miss -- although Sigmund is exceptionally magic
resistant IIRC... if so, then best to to use the resistable stuff on
the remaining foes...

> and 2 killer bees. Managed to off the Ogre though.

....like these guys.

> E - a scroll of fear

Might've also been worth a shot.

> n - a ring of invisibility

Like this here, although the turns required to use it and for pursuers
to lose your scent are always problematic.

e.